On 7/2/2010 9:10 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
On 2 Jul 2010 15:00:17 -0700
a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote:
5. Get at least two major hosting services to put up Python 3.
webfaction.com has python3.1
So does http://www.Vex.Net/ so there's your two.
Not according to Vex's publishe
On 7/2/10 11:58 AM, Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet wrote:
>
> #Py3
I'm stuck on Python 2.x, as I mentioned (albeit only in a comment). That
said this code does not seem to be including any Py3isms that aren't
compatible.
> class Thing(object):
> @expose()
> def test1(self, arg1):
> re
On 7/2/10 11:55 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> Looks good! You may still want to use functools.update_wrapper or
> functools.wraps on "wrap".
Are you sure? I've been doing a little bit of experimentation and I only
did the 'wraps' on that inner function, because it seemed that it was
all that was nee
On 2 Jul 2010 15:00:17 -0700
a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote:
> >5. Get at least two major hosting services to put up Python 3.
>
> webfaction.com has python3.1
So does http://www.Vex.Net/ so there's your two.
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http://www.drui
On 7/2/2010 3:07 PM, John Nagle wrote:
That's the real issue, not parentheses on the "print" statement.
Where's the business case for moving to Python 3? It's not faster.
It doesn't do anything you can't do in Python 2.6.
False. One cannot run code in 2.6 that depends on bugfixes in 3.1. Nor
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Gregory Ewing
wrote:
> Carl Banks wrote:
>
>> Indeed, strncpy does not copy that final NUL if it's at or beyond the
>> nth element. Probably the most mind-bogglingly stupid thing about the
>> standard C library, which has lots of mind-boggling stupidity.
>
> I don
On Friday 02 July 2010 19:20:26 Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message , Rami
> Chowdhury wrote:
> > On Thursday 01 July 2010 16:50:59 Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> >> Nevertheless, it it at least self-consistent. To return to my original
> >>
> >> macro:
> >> #define Descr(v) &v, sizeof v
> >
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Robert William Hanks
wrote:
> to say is "wrong" i think is a bit too much, its just a different type of
> usage, this type of sintax is extensively used in numpy arrays (extended
> slice came from numerical python), just asking why not extend the sintax to
> python
In message , Rami
Chowdhury wrote:
> On Thursday 01 July 2010 16:50:59 Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> Nevertheless, it it at least self-consistent. To return to my original
>> macro:
>>
>> #define Descr(v) &v, sizeof v
>>
>> As written, this works whatever the type of v: array, struct, wha
to say is "wrong" i think is a bit too much, its just a different type of
usage, this type of sintax is extensively used in numpy arrays (extended
slice came from numerical python), just asking why not extend the sintax to
python list. (not sure if you can use None as in the code i posted in numpy
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 14:48:47 -0400
pyt...@bdurham.com wrote:
> Curious if any of you are using GPG or PGP encryption and/or
> signatures in your Python apps?
...
> 4. generating signatures for files that you are exchanging/posting for
> download?
I use pyme to create and check save file signature
In article <4c2e79d3$0$1663$742ec...@news.sonic.net>,
John Nagle wrote:
>On 7/2/2010 3:00 PM, Aahz wrote:
>> In article<4c2e38f5.10...@animats.com>, John Nagle wrote:
>>>
>>> 5. Get at least two major hosting services to put up Python 3.
>>
>> webfaction.com has python3.1
>
>Any use
In article ,
moerchendiser2k3 wrote:
>
>Do I need to implement both? Looks very redundant, isnt it? Or is it
>just an extension and tp_richcompare is the better choice here? Can
>anyone please make the light on here? :)
Nobody else responded, so please take this non-expert advice:
tp_compare is
abhijeet thatte wrote:
Hi,
I have a huge dict structure like below:
/*{'module':{'reg_dict_0':{'name':'abc','reg_addr':'2004'},'reg_dict_1':{'name':'xyz','reg_addr':'2002'},'reg_dict_2':{'name':'pqr','reg_addr':'2008'}}*/
Module dict and reg_dicts contain many elements than shown.
I want to so
Robert William Hanks wrote:
why pure python don't support "extended slice direct assignment" for lists?
today we have to write like this,
>>> aList=[0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9]
>>> aList
[0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]
>>> aList[::2]= [None]*len(aList[::2]) #or do the math by hand, what's
not alwa
Hi all,
I have a serious problem I want to solve. My app, where
Python is embedded crashs on OSX (10.6 SL). I can reproduce the crash
sometimes with a script that makes use of Python threads ( module:
threading).
'thelock->locked' is for sure still locked, but I can't identify the
problem.
Its ju
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Steven D'Aprano <
st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:07:33 -0700, John Nagle wrote:
>
> > Where's the business case for moving to Python 3? It's not faster. It
> > doesn't do anything you can't do in Python 2.6. There's no "kill
Hi,
I have a huge dict structure like below:
*
{'module':{'reg_dict_0':{'name':'abc','reg_addr':'2004'},'reg_dict_1':{'name':'xyz','reg_addr':'2002'},'reg_dict_2':{'name':'pqr','reg_addr':'2008'}}
*
Module dict and reg_dicts contain many elements than shown.
I want to sort this 'module' dictionar
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Robert William Hanks <
astroultra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> why pure python don't support "extended slice direct assignment" for lists?
>
> today we have to write like this,
>
> >>> aList=[0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9]
> >>> aList
> [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]
> >>> aList[::
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 04:11:49 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I would like to better understand some of the design choices made in
> collections.defaultdict.
[...]
Thanks to all who replied.
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:07:33 -0700, John Nagle wrote:
> Where's the business case for moving to Python 3? It's not faster. It
> doesn't do anything you can't do in Python 2.6. There's no "killer app"
> for it. End of life for Python 2.x is many years away; most server Linux
> distros aren't eve
On 7/2/2010 3:00 PM, Aahz wrote:
In article<4c2e38f5.10...@animats.com>, John Nagle wrote:
5. Get at least two major hosting services to put up Python 3.
webfaction.com has python3.1
WebFaction's big thing is that they have a really good system for
installing anything the user want
John Nagle writes:
> Where's the business case for moving to Python 3? It's not faster.
It's faster to learn, because there's less to learn.
How do you know that it's not faster? That's a matter of the speed of
individual Python implementations. What data do you have?
> It doesn't do anythin
why pure python don't support "extended slice direct assignment" for lists?
today we have to write like this,
>>> aList=[0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9]
>>> aList
[0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]
>>> aList[::2]= [None]*len(aList[::2]) #or do the math by hand, what's not
always possible
>>> aList
[None, 1, No
On 7/2/2010 2:38 PM Jay said...
OK, so how does a program read the pixel?
Well, you start with a screen capture utility. I'd check is pywinauto
provides that access...
Emile
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Hi,
I'm trying to write a simple script which displays the basic details
of a person's mailbox. My problem is that it causes all the messages
to be marked as read on the server, which is not what I'm after, and I
also can't get the imap.sort command to work properly (currently
commented out as I re
On Jul 1, 3:30 pm, "Rhodri James" wrote:
>
> If this is a version of your code that actually fails when you run it
> (rather than being another artistic interpretation of a photograph of your
> code :-), then I'd go with Matt's analysis. This will give you a
> NameError for fws_last_col if
In article <4c2e38f5.10...@animats.com>, John Nagle wrote:
>
>5. Get at least two major hosting services to put up Python 3.
webfaction.com has python3.1
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On Jul 2, 2:13 pm, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 7/1/2010 10:18 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 7/1/2010 6:17 PM Terry Reedy said...
> >> On 7/1/2010 6:42 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote:
> >>> On 7/1/2010 2:52 PM Jay said...
> pywinauto looks to be almost perfect. All I need now is to re
On Jul 2, 6:17 am, superpollo wrote:
> Ethan Furman ha scritto:
>
>
>
> > Terry Reedy wrote:
> >> On 7/1/2010 6:42 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote:
>
> >>> On 7/1/2010 2:52 PM Jay said...
>
> pywinauto looks to be almost perfect. All I need now is to read the
> numbers uncovered when a mines
On 7/1/2010 10:18 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote:
On 7/1/2010 6:17 PM Terry Reedy said...
On 7/1/2010 6:42 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote:
On 7/1/2010 2:52 PM Jay said...
pywinauto looks to be almost perfect. All I need now is to read the
numbers uncovered when a minesweeper square is clicked on, or
On Jul 2, 12:07 pm, John Nagle wrote:
> This has all been said before.
Yes, we know. And when no one did anything about it the first dozen
times it's been said, it wasn't because we didn't hear it, it was
because we didn't care. We still don't care now, and won't care no
matter how many tim
> Does anyone have any clue what that might be?
> Why the problem is on GAE (even when run locally), when command line
> run works just fine (even with recursion limit decreased)?
Can't explain why you see different behavior on GAE vs. local, but it
is unusual for a "small" translator to flirt wit
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:46:41 -0700
Zac Burns wrote:
> In my experience it is far more expensive to allocate a lock in python then
> it is the types that use them. Here are some examples:
>
> >>> timeit.timeit('Lock()', 'from threading import Lock')
> 1.4449114807669048
>
> >>> timeit.timeit('dic
On Jul 2, 10:41 am, Stephen Hansen wrote:
> Okay, so!
>
> I actually never quite got around to learning to do deep and useful
> magic with decorators. I've only ever done the most basic things with
> them. Its all been a little fuzzy in my head: things like what order
> decorators end up being cal
On 07/02/2010 09:07 PM, John Nagle wrote:
>
>What I'm not seeing is a deployment plan along these lines:
>
>1.Identify key modules which must be converted before Python 3
> can be used in production environments.
That depends VERY strongly on the environment in question.
>
>
David Cournapeau wrote:
I think one point which needs to be emphasized more is what does
python 3 bring to people. The" what's new in python 3 page" gives
the impression that python 3 is about removing cruft. That's a very
poor argument to push people to switch.
That's the real issue, not p
* Stephen Hansen, on 02.07.2010 19:41:
Okay, so!
I actually never quite got around to learning to do deep and useful
magic with decorators. I've only ever done the most basic things with
them. Its all been a little fuzzy in my head: things like what order
decorators end up being called in if the
I like to think of decorators with arguments as decorator factory functions.
I try and unroll them as much as possible... I have some decorators that
work like so (and please note that the wraps and returns_as_output are
separate so that I can mutate the behavior as needed, if you just wanted a
si
On 07/02/2010 07:41 PM, Stephen Hansen wrote:
> Okay, so!
>
> I actually never quite got around to learning to do deep and useful
> magic with decorators. I've only ever done the most basic things with
> them. Its all been a little fuzzy in my head: things like what order
> decorators end up being
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It includes also tweaks to commonly used extension to provide extra
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that helps you ge
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Please disregard my ineptly posed question.
~K
In kj writes:
>I define
>ninv = 1.0/n
>...where n is some integer, and I want to write some function f such
>that f(m * ninv) returns the smallest integer that is >= m * ninv,
>where m is some other integer. And, in particular, if m is p*n
I'd like to have the following structure of my Python code:
I have a directory called 'mysystem'. In this directory, I have files
'comp1.zip' and 'comp2.zip' etc which are zipped archives with python
packages and modules.
I'd like to be able to use them like this in my code:
import mysystem.comp
I define
ninv = 1.0/n
...where n is some integer, and I want to write some function f such
that f(m * ninv) returns the smallest integer that is >= m * ninv,
where m is some other integer. And, in particular, if m is p*n
for some integer p, then f((p*n) * ninv) should return the integer
p.
Okay, so!
I actually never quite got around to learning to do deep and useful
magic with decorators. I've only ever done the most basic things with
them. Its all been a little fuzzy in my head: things like what order
decorators end up being called in if there's more then one, etc.
But in my
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Stef Mientki wrote:
> On 02-07-2010 09:39, geremy condra wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:48 AM, wrote:
>>> Curious if any of you are using GPG or PGP encryption and/or signatures
>>> in your Python apps?
>> Yes; disclaimer: I'm the author of evpy and am curre
On 07/02/2010 05:38 PM, Dhilip S wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone..
>
> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04, i try to install Python 2.4.2 & Python 2.4.3 got
> error message while doing make command. anybody can tell tell, How to
> overcome this error Finally i got message like this ...
>
> 4036e000-403ad000
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:28:59 -0700, kedra marbun wrote:
> hello, friendliest prog lang community on earth ;)
>
> i'm feeling that
> (0) delegation pattern thru descriptor encourages dedicated delegate for
> each task, if feeling: print(benefits) (1) the delegate is designed to
> be blind about th
Hello Everyone..
I'm using Ubuntu 10.04, i try to install Python 2.4.2 & Python 2.4.3 got
error message while doing make command. anybody can tell tell, How to
overcome this error Finally i got message like this ...
4036e000-403ad000 r--p 08:08 156978
/usr/lib/locale/en_IN/LC_CTYPE
b
On 07/01/2010 08:57 AM, Alan wrote:
> I know drag & drop is not possible with TK.
Is this a Python Tk limitation or a Tk limitation in general? Google
suggests that Tk itself supports some form of dnd.
> Which widget could I use for my
> python application to be able to work with drag & drop?
hello, friendliest prog lang community on earth ;)
i'm feeling that
(0) delegation pattern thru descriptor encourages dedicated delegate
for each task, if feeling: print(benefits)
(1) the delegate is designed to be blind about the class on which the
delegate is attached to
isn't that the two stre
Ethan Furman ha scritto:
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/1/2010 6:42 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote:
On 7/1/2010 2:52 PM Jay said...
pywinauto looks to be almost perfect. All I need now is to read the
numbers uncovered when a minesweeper square is clicked on, or that I
just hit a mine.
... or, you c
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/1/2010 6:42 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote:
On 7/1/2010 2:52 PM Jay said...
pywinauto looks to be almost perfect. All I need now is to read the
numbers uncovered when a minesweeper square is clicked on, or that I
just hit a mine.
... or, you could always win...
http:/
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/1/2010 6:42 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Hmmm Well, as this is my first ever bug post (yay! ;)
Great!
> I *think* this is what you want:
http://bugs.python.org/issue9121
I believe Benjamin meant that it was already fixed in
http://docs.python.org/dev/py3k/
whic
On 2 July 2010 05:10, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:34:15 +0300
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> I'm one of them. Gmail is great for mailing lists, though I would
>> never use it as a personal email client. But I'm more of a lurker than
>> a poster on this list, so D'Arcy won't miss me a
On Jul 2, 6:04 am, MRAB wrote:
> The csv module imports from _csv, which suggests to me that there's code
> written in C which thinks that the "\x00" is a NUL terminator, so it's a
> bug, although it's very unusual to want to write characters like "\x00"
> to a CSV file, and I wouldn't be surpri
syockit wrote:
I've been playing around with custom iterators to map into Pool. When
I run the code below:
def arif(arr):
return arr
def permutate(n):
k = 0
a = list(range(6))
while k
While I didn't actually try to follow all your code, I suspect your
problem is that when you
syockit wrote:
> I've been playing around with custom iterators to map into Pool. When
> I run the code below:
>
> def arif(arr):
> return arr
>
> def permutate(n):
> k = 0
> a = list(range(6))
> while k for i in range(6):
> a.insert(0, a.pop(5)+6)
> #
* Dave Pawson [2010-07-02 08:22]:
> I'm the OP btw.
>
> On 1 July 2010 18:10, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
>
> >> I think that Python "could" be a alternative to bash and have some
> >> advantages, but it's a long way off from being fully implemented.
> >
Take a look at Python for Unix and Linux S
On 02-07-2010 09:39, geremy condra wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:48 AM, wrote:
>> Curious if any of you are using GPG or PGP encryption and/or signatures
>> in your Python apps?
> Yes; disclaimer: I'm the author of evpy and am currently working on a
> openssl wrapper proposed for inclusion
WANG Cong a écrit :
On 06/30/10 01:25, Ethan Furman wrote:
But if so why setattr() still exists? What is it for if we can do the
same thing via assignments? Also, in order to be perfect, Python should
accept to add dynamic attributes dynamically, something like PEP
363. That doesn't happen.
S
WANG Cong a écrit :
On 07/01/10 23:19, Stephen Hansen wrote:
As long as setattr() exists in Python, that will be not so ordinary. :)
setattr is perfectly ordinary.
If you think setattr() is as ordinary as a trivial assignment,
setattr IS a trivial assignment.
However, I think setattr(
WANG Cong wrote:
However, I think setattr() is a builtin function, using it exposes the
*magic* of metaprogramming (or class-programming, if more correct) at a
first glance.
But, in Python, creating instance variables is *not*
class-programming. It doesn't touch the class at all.
In many OO l
On 07/02/2010 11:26 AM, Chris Rebert wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote:
>> On 07/02/2010 06:11 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> I would like to better understand some of the design choices made in
>>> collections.defaultdict.
>
>>> Second, why is the factory function not
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> On 07/02/2010 06:11 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> I would like to better understand some of the design choices made in
>> collections.defaultdict.
>> Second, why is the factory function not called with key? There are three
>> obvious kinds o
On 07/02/2010 06:11 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I would like to better understand some of the design choices made in
> collections.defaultdict.
>
> Firstly, to initialise a defaultdict, you do this:
>
> from collections import defaultdict
> d = defaultdict(callable, *args)
>
> which sets an at
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Maciej wrote:
> Does anyone have any clue what that might be?
> Why the problem is on GAE (even when run locally), when command line
> run works just fine (even with recursion limit decreased)?
> Thanks in advance for any help.
Most likely google runs a customized
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Tim Golden wrote:
>
> Looks very interesting. Just one thing (which might just be me):
> the front page looks very stylish and is quite a nice summary.
> But I actually *missed* the (grey on grey) [Take me to Bento documentation]
> button, which is way below the fo
WANG Cong wrote:
When I talked about OOP, it is general OOP, not related with
> any concrete programming languages.
There isn't really any such thing, though. There is no
universally agreed set of features that a language must
have in order to be considered OOP.
Arguments of the form "Language
WANG Cong wrote:
Yeah, my point is why setattr() for dynamic attributes while assignments
for static attributes?
I think there may be a misunderstanding here. You seem to
be thinking of "dynamic attribute" vs. "static attribute"
as the distinction between creating a new attribute and
modifying
I've been playing around with custom iterators to map into Pool. When
I run the code below:
def arif(arr):
return arr
def permutate(n):
k = 0
a = list(range(6))
while khttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
WANG Cong wrote:
If you think setattr() is as ordinary as a trivial assignment, I will
argue with you, this is personal taste.
To my way of thinking, getattr() and setattr() are the
fundamental way of accessing attributes in Python. The
dot notation is just syntactic sugar for the overwhelming
snorble wrote:
> My question is, why do the modules bar and foo show up in mypack's
> dir()? I intend for Foo (the class foo.Foo) and Bar (the class
> bar.Bar) to be there, but was not sure about the modules foo and bar.
> $ ls mypack/*.py
> bar.py
> foo.py
> __init__.py
>
> $ cat mypack/__init_
Hi,
I'm writing a small translator using pyparsing library v1.5.2
(http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/) and I'm using it both from command
line
and on Google App Engine. Recently I checked one of my samples which
runs
perfect from CLI against GAE and it throws me "RuntimeError 'maximum
recursion
depth
On 02/07/2010 03:38, David wrote:
I am pleased to announce the release 0.0.3 for Bento, the pythonic
packaging solution.
Bento aims at being an alternative to distutils/setuptools/distribute,
based on a static metadata file format. Existing packages can be
converted from setup.py to bento format
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:48 AM, wrote:
> Curious if any of you are using GPG or PGP encryption and/or signatures
> in your Python apps?
Yes; disclaimer: I'm the author of evpy and am currently working on a
openssl wrapper proposed for inclusion in the stdlib.
> In particular are you:
>
> 1. cl
Just tested it in XP, it works.
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Hello there,
I know drag & drop is not possible with TK. Which widget could I use for my
python application to be able to work with drag & drop?
Thanks,
Alan
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