Re: python 3's adoption

On Jan 27, 4:25 pm, Paul Rubin wrote: > What about assert and pass? > If you're going to have statements, you're going to need the null statement. That's "pass". It could be renamed "null_statement" but "pass" is a better description. "None" and "pass" are cousins of sorts, since "None" is the n

Re: starting a thread in a nother thread

Am Wednesday 27 January 2010 15:30:17 schrieb Stefan Behnel: > Richard Lamboj, 27.01.2010 15:23: > > Am Wednesday 27 January 2010 14:10:13 schrieb Stefan Behnel: > >> Richard Lamboj, 27.01.2010 14:06: > >>> just for _curiosity_. What would be if i start a thread in a nother > >>> thread and acquir

Re: Ad hoc lists vs ad hoc tuples

On Jan 27, 10:15 pm, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 1/27/2010 12:32 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > > Le Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:20:53 -0800, Floris Bruynooghe a écrit : > > >> Is a list or tuple better or more efficient in these situations? > > > Tuples are faster to allocate (they are allocated in one single

Re: Library support for Python 3.x

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > David Cournapeau writes: >> That's not windows specific - most packages which distribute binary >> packages need to package binaries for every minor version (2.4, 2.5, >> etc...) >> I doubt that's what Paul was referring to, though - he see

Re: List weirdness - what the heck is going on here?

Rotwang writes: > Hi all, I've been trying to make a class with which to manipulate > sound data, and have run into some behaviour I don't understand which > I hope somebody here can explain. The class has an attribute called > data, which is a list with two elements, one for each audio channel,

Re: Library support for Python 3.x

David Cournapeau writes: > That's not windows specific - most packages which distribute binary > packages need to package binaries for every minor version (2.4, 2.5, > etc...) > I doubt that's what Paul was referring to, though - he seemed more > concern with API/language changes than ABI issu

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Re: myths about python 3

On 1/27/2010 8:36 PM, alex23 wrote: Terry Reedy wrote: Actually, Unladen Swallow is now targeted at 3.1; its developers have conservatively proposed its integration in CPython 3.3. This statement was to counter the 'myth' that US was only targeted at 2.x when the current situation is quite t

Re: Library support for Python 3.x

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > > For a windows user who depends on pre-built binaries, every new release > breaks *every* library that is not pure Python and needs to be compiled. That's not windows specific - most packages which distribute binary packages need to package

Re: ISO module for binomial coefficients, etc.

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Re: ISO module for binomial coefficients, etc.

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 16:11:03 -0500, Dave Angel wrote: > I didn't think of simply summing the logs. A couple terms of Stirling's approximation work pretty well: def log_fact_half( N ): """log_fact_half( n ) returns the natural logarithm of the factorial of n/2. n need not be an integer. D

Re: Python and Ruby

On Thursday 28 January 2010 08:11 AM, rantingrick wrote: On Jan 27, 5:31 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote: To add to that, Python is the type of language where experienced programmers can pick it up by reading code, and newbies won't get hopelessly lost. I've taught less-than-formal introductory

Re: python 3's adoption

Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:28:00 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: * Print is now a function. Great, much improvement. Actually not, IMHO. All it does is is to provide incompatibility. They forgot Ronald Reagan's old maxim: if it don't need fixin', don't fix it. The aphor

Re: Stuck on a three word street name regex

On Jan 27, 7:27 pm, MRAB wrote: > Brian D wrote: > > I've tackled this kind of problem before by looping through a patterns > > dictionary, but there must be a smarter approach. > > > Two addresses. Note that the first has incorrectly transposed the > > direction and street name. The second has an

Re: Stuck on a three word street name regex

On Jan 27, 6:35 pm, Paul Rubin wrote: > Brian D writes: > > I've tackled this kind of problem before by looping through a patterns > > dictionary, but there must be a smarter approach.> > > Two addresses. Note that the first has incorrectly transposed the > > direction and street name. > > I

Re: python 3's adoption

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Paul Rubin wrote: > I don't mind that 3.x is breaking stuff for the sake of improving > things.  That's the whole idea of 3.x, after all.  What bugs me is that > the improvements are mostly quite superficial, and the breakage seems > often gratuitous.  I'd rather

Re: List weirdness - what the heck is going on here?

Rotwang wrote: > Can anybody tell me what's going on? Your problem is basically this: >>> a = [1] >>> b = [a] * 2 >>> b [[1], [1]] >>> a.append(2) >>> b [[1, 2], [1, 2]] The expression '[a] * 2' doesn't make two copies of list of a list of a, it makes two nested _references_ to it. When you mod

Re: myths about python 3

Steve Holden writes: > Kindly confine your debate to the facts and keep the snide remarks to > yourself. Like it or not Python 3 is the future, and unladen swallow's > recent announcement that they would target only Python 3 represented a > ground-breaking advance for the language. My take on thi

Re: Python and Ruby

On Jan 27, 5:31 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote: > To add to that, Python is the type of language where experienced > programmers can pick it up by reading code, and newbies won't get > hopelessly lost. I've taught less-than-formal introductory programming > classes to people who are new to programmin

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Re: myths about python 3

John Nagle wrote: > Daniel Fetchinson wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I was going to write this post for a while because all sorts of myths >> periodically come up on this list about python 3. I don't think the >> posters mean to spread false information on purpose, they simply are >> not aware of the fa

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Re: myths about python 3

Carl Banks: > There is also no hope someone will fork Python 2.x and continue it in > perpetuity. Well, someone might try to fork it, but they won't be > able to call it Python. Over time there may be more desire from those unable or unwilling to upgrade to 3.x to work on improvements to 2.x,

Re: List weirdness - what the heck is going on here?

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Rotwang wrote: > But suppose I replace the line > self.data = [[0]]*2 > > with > > self.data = [[0] for c in xrange(2)] > The first line does not do what you think it does: it doesn't make a copy of that internal [0]. Python almost never implicitly copies any

Re: List weirdness - what the heck is going on here?

On 2010-01-27 21:06:28 -0500, Rotwang said: Hi all, I've been trying to make a class with which to manipulate sound data, and have run into some behaviour I don't understand which I hope somebody here can explain. The class has an attribute called data, which is a list with two elements, one

Re: deriving MySQLdb class

On Jan 21, 11:48 pm, Sean DiZazzo wrote: > On Jan 21, 8:17 pm, tekion wrote: > > > Sean, > > I did a little investigation, there are other classes besides > > Connection. So, could I only set up a derived class from Connection > > and still be able to use the connection to query database and retr

List weirdness - what the heck is going on here?

Hi all, I've been trying to make a class with which to manipulate sound data, and have run into some behaviour I don't understand which I hope somebody here can explain. The class has an attribute called data, which is a list with two elements, one for each audio channel, each of which is a lis

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Re: myths about python 3

On Jan 27, 5:36 pm, alex23 wrote: > Terry Reedy wrote: > > Actually, Unladen Swallow is now targeted at 3.1; its developers have > > conservatively proposed its integration in CPython 3.3. I would not be > > completely shocked if it happens in 3.2. > > Why do I feel like there's less of an onus o

Re: python 3's adoption

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:44:18 -0800, Carl Banks wrote: >> You're referring to the O(N**2) bit, right? I am sure he knew it was O >> (N*log(N)), which is still worse than O(N) for key. >> >> If he didn't, well, Python has some fundamental flaws in its basic sort >> algorithm. > > Quicksort is O(N**

Re: myths about python 3

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:28:08 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: > Steven D'Aprano writes: >> 6. The code for Python 3 was handed down to Guido from the Heavens, >> carved into stone tablets by the Gods themselves. > > That is heresy. The direction was up, not down. SPLITTER!!! -- Steven -- http://

Re: python 3's adoption

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:16:59 -0800, Jonathan Gardner wrote: > On Jan 27, 3:54 pm, Paul Rubin wrote: >> Steven D'Aprano writes: >> > always much better written with key rather than cmp: key adds an O(N) >> > overheard to the sorting, while cmp makes sorting O(N**2). >> >> Whaa ..

Re: myths about python 3

Terry Reedy wrote: > Actually, Unladen Swallow is now targeted at 3.1; its developers have > conservatively proposed its integration in CPython 3.3. I would not be > completely shocked if it happens in 3.2. Why do I feel like there's less of an onus on Unladen Swallow to _actually prove itself in

Re: Stuck on a three word street name regex

Brian D wrote: I've tackled this kind of problem before by looping through a patterns dictionary, but there must be a smarter approach. Two addresses. Note that the first has incorrectly transposed the direction and street name. The second has an extra space in it before the street type. Clearly

Re: python 3's adoption

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:36:52 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: > Steven D'Aprano writes: >> Without becoming a purely functional language, you won't get rid of all >> statements. > > Why not? GCC lets you use any statement in an expression: I stand corrected. Whether it is a good idea or not is another

Re: Orange County, California Python User Group

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Re: python 3's adoption

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:29:25 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: > The main problem with the incompatibility is for porting code, not for > writing code from scratch. Correct. It's a trivial problem, but still a problem. > It's also a problem wrt. learning the language. This makes no sense. Why is i

Re: python 3's adoption

On Jan 27, 4:16 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote: > On Jan 27, 3:54 pm, Paul Rubin wrote: > > > Steven D'Aprano writes: > > > always much better written with key rather than cmp: key adds an O(N) > > > overheard to the sorting, while cmp makes sorting O(N**2). > > > Whaa ..  No I don'

Re: Stuck on a three word street name regex

Brian D writes: > I've tackled this kind of problem before by looping through a patterns > dictionary, but there must be a smarter approach.> > Two addresses. Note that the first has incorrectly transposed the > direction and street name. If you're really serious about it (e.g. you are the p

Re: myths about python 3

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:25:46 -0500, Benjamin Kaplan wrote: > When Python 2.6 came out, Jython was still on 2.2. The difference > between 2.2 and 2.6 is almost as big of a difference as between 2.6 and > 3.0. In that time, you had the introduction of the boolean type, > generators, list comprehensi

Re: python 3's adoption

Jonathan Gardner writes: > You're referring to the O(N**2) bit, right? I am sure he knew it was O > (N*log(N)), which is still worse than O(N) for key. It's O(n log n) for both key and cmp. key is usually more convenient and usually gives a constant-factor speedup (DSU pattern), but it uses more

Re: myths about python 3

Steven D'Aprano writes: > 6. The code for Python 3 was handed down to Guido from the Heavens, > carved into stone tablets by the Gods themselves. That is heresy. The direction was up, not down. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: myths about python 3

On Jan 27, 2:19 pm, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: > On 10:07 pm, pavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote: > >Last I heard, don't remember where, the plan was for Python 2.7 to be > >the last version in the Python 2 line.  If that's true, Python 3 > >acceptance is further along at this point than anticipa

Re: python 3's adoption

Jonathan Gardner writes: >> What about assert, import, and pass? >... > For instance, how can you call an "if" function ... > If "yield", "break", and "continue" were functions, ... > "import" ... does something very special. It assigns > to values in the namespace of the code from which it was ca

Stuck on a three word street name regex

I've tackled this kind of problem before by looping through a patterns dictionary, but there must be a smarter approach. Two addresses. Note that the first has incorrectly transposed the direction and street name. The second has an extra space in it before the street type. Clearly done by someone

Re: myths about python 3

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:56:10 -0800, John Nagle wrote: > Daniel Fetchinson wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I was going to write this post for a while because all sorts of myths >> periodically come up on this list about python 3. I don't think the >> posters mean to spread false information on purpose,

Re: python 3's adoption

On Jan 27, 3:54 pm, Paul Rubin wrote: > Steven D'Aprano writes: > > always much better written with key rather than cmp: key adds an O(N) > > overheard to the sorting, while cmp makes sorting O(N**2). > > Whaa ..  No I don't think so. You're referring to the O(N**2) bit, right?

Re: python 3's adoption

On Jan 27, 12:36 am, Paul Rubin wrote: > Steven D'Aprano writes: > > Without becoming a purely functional language, you won't get rid of all > > statements. > > Why not?  GCC lets you use any statement in an expression: > >     #include > >     main() >     { >       int i, x, p=0; >       x = (

Re: myths about python 3

Daniel Fetchinson wrote: Hi folks, I was going to write this post for a while because all sorts of myths periodically come up on this list about python 3. I don't think the posters mean to spread false information on purpose, they simply are not aware of the facts. My list is surely incomplete,

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Re: python 3's adoption

Steven D'Aprano writes: > always much better written with key rather than cmp: key adds an O(N) > overheard to the sorting, while cmp makes sorting O(N**2). Whaa .. No I don't think so. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python 3's adoption

On Jan 26, 10:12 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > I did too, when I first heard cmp was to be dumped. But I changed my mind > and now agree with the decision to drop cmp. Custom sorts are nearly > always much better written with key rather than cmp: key adds an O(N) > overheard to the sorting, while

Re: myths about python 3

In article , Grant Edwards wrote: > >That said, I don't expect to start using Python 3 until library >availability or my Linux distro forces me to. If python 3 is much more efficient than python 2, or it has features I really need for some application I'll write in the future, I might be tempted

Re: python 3's adoption

On Jan 27, 9:38 am, Luis M. González wrote: > > Please don't post more noise and ad hominem attacks to the group, Steve. > > "Ad hominem"? > Please, operor non utor lingua non notus per vulgaris populus. > Gratias ago vos... My rough, machine-assisted translation: "Don't try to use language that

Re: myths about python 3

In article , Daniel Fetchinson wrote: >Hi folks, > >1. Print statement/function creates incompatibility between 2.x and 3.x! > >Certainly false or misleading, if one uses 2.6 and 3.x the >incompatibility is not there. Print as a function works in 2.6: Yes, but does print as a statement work? Yo

Re: myths about python 3

On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 16:25 -0500, Benjamin Kaplan wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:56 PM, John Nagle wrote: > > Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > >> > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> I was going to write this post for a while because all sorts of myths > >> periodically come up on this list about python 3. I d

Re: myths about python 3

>> Hi folks, >> >> I was going to write this post for a while because all sorts of myths >> periodically come up on this list about python 3. I don't think the >> posters mean to spread false information on purpose, they simply are >> not aware of the facts. >> >> My list is surely incomplete, plea

Re: Python and Ruby

On Jan 27, 6:56 am, Roald de Vries wrote: > On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Jean Guillaume Pyraksos wrote: > > > What are the arguments for choosing Python against Ruby > > for introductory programming? > > I think the main difference is in culture, especially for   > *introductory* programming. To

Re: Python and Ruby

On Jan 27, 5:47 am, Simon Brunning wrote: > > I think Python is a little cleaner, but I'm sure you'd find Ruby fans > who'd argue the complete opposite. > Are you sure about that? There's a lot of line noise in Ruby. How are you supposed to pronounce "@@"? What about "{|..| ... }"? There's a lo

Re: python 3's adoption

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Re: Library support for Python 3.x

On 1/27/2010 2:03 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: From my POV, your question would be precisely identical if you had started your project when Python 2.3 was just released and wanted to know if the libraries you selected would be available for Python 2.6. I didn't re

Re: myths about python 3

On 1/27/2010 3:56 PM, John Nagle wrote: 2. Python 3 is supported by multiple Python implementations. FALSE - Only CPython supports 3.x. Iron Python, Unladen Swallow, PyPy, and Jython have all stayed with 2.x versions of Python. Actually, Unladen Swallow is now targeted at 3.1; its developers

Re: myths about python 3

On Jan 27, 2:56 pm, John Nagle wrote: > Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > I was going to write this post for a while because all sorts of myths > > periodically come up on this list about python 3. I don't think the > > posters mean to spread false information on purpose, they simply ar

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Re: myths about python 3

On 10:07 pm, pavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 27, 12:56�pm, John Nagle wrote: Arguably, Python 3 has been rejected by the market. No it's not fathomably arguable, because there's no reasonable way that Python 3 could have fully replaced Python 2 so quickly. At best, you could reasonabl

Re: Ad hoc lists vs ad hoc tuples

On 1/27/2010 12:32 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: Le Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:20:53 -0800, Floris Bruynooghe a écrit : Is a list or tuple better or more efficient in these situations? Tuples are faster to allocate (they are allocated in one single step) and quite a bit smaller too. In some situations,

Re: myths about python 3

On Jan 27, 12:56 pm, John Nagle wrote: > Arguably, Python 3 has been rejected by the market. No it's not fathomably arguable, because there's no reasonable way that Python 3 could have fully replaced Python 2 so quickly. At best, you could reasonably argue there hasn't been enough time to tell.

Re: I really need webbrowser.open('file://') to open a web browser

On Jan 27, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Timur Tabi wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Mitchell L Model wrote: I had some discussions with the Python documentation writers that led to the following note being included in the Python 3.1 library documentation for webbrowser.open: "Note that on s

Re: myths about python 3

On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 16:25 -0500, Benjamin Kaplan wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:56 PM, John Nagle wrote: > Give the package maintainers time to update. There were some pretty > big changes to the C API. Most of the major 3rd party packages like > numpy and MySQLdb have already commited to ha

Re: python 3's adoption

* Adam Tauno Williams: On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 18:52 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: * Steve Holden: Alf P. Steinbach wrote: [...] The main problem with the incompatibility is for porting code, not for writing code from scratch. It's also a problem wrt. learning the language. And I see no good re

Re: myths about python 3

Christian Heimes writes: > John Nagle wrote: > > 1. Python 3 is supported by major Linux distributions. > > > > FALSE - most distros are shipping with Python 2.4, or 2.5 at best. > > You are wrong. Modern versions of Debian / Ubuntu are using Python > 2.6. Only if by “modern” you mean “not

Re: myths about python 3

Adam Tauno Williams writes: > On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 12:56 -0800, John Nagle wrote: > > 2. Python 3 is supported by multiple Python implementations. > > FALSE - Only CPython supports 3.x. Iron Python, Unladen Swallow, > > PyPy, and Jython have all stayed with 2.x versions of Python. > >

Re: myths about python 3

John Nagle wrote: > 1. Python 3 is supported by major Linux distributions. > > FALSE - most distros are shipping with Python 2.4, or 2.5 at best. You are wrong. Modern versions of Debian / Ubuntu are using Python 2.6. My Ubuntu box has python3.0, too. > 2. Python 3 is supported by multip

Re: myths about python 3

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:56 PM, John Nagle wrote: > Daniel Fetchinson wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> I was going to write this post for a while because all sorts of myths >> periodically come up on this list about python 3. I don't think the >> posters mean to spread false information on purpose, t

Re: myths about python 3

John Nagle writes: > Myths about Python 3: > > 1. Python 3 is supported by major Linux distributions. > > FALSE - most distros are shipping with Python 2.4, or 2.5 at > best. There's a big difference between “What list of versions of Python does ship with?” versus “Which one

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Re: myths about python 3

On Jan 27, 9:22 am, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > >> Hi folks, > > >> I was going to write this post for a while because all sorts of myths > >> periodically come up on this list about python 3. I don't think the > >> posters mean to spread false information on purpose, they simply are > >> not aware

Re: myths about python 3

On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 12:56 -0800, John Nagle wrote: > Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I was going to write this post for a while because all sorts of myths > > periodically come up on this list about python 3. I don't think the > > posters mean to spread false information on purpose, th

Re: Library support for Python 3.x

Kevin Walzer wrote: I'm going to be starting some new Python projects in Python 2.6, but am concerned that at least three of the libraries I will be using--pycrypto, paramiko and feedparser--are not currently supported in Python 3.x. The authors of these programs have not given any indication

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Stefan Behnel wrote: Richard Lamboj, 27.01.2010 15:23: Am Wednesday 27 January 2010 14:10:13 schrieb Stefan Behnel: Richard Lamboj, 27.01.2010 14:06: just for _curiosity_. What would be if i start a thread in a nother thread and acquire a lock in the "child" thread. Is there anything that coul

Re: myths about python 3

On 2010-01-27, John Nagle wrote: > Arguably, Python 3 has been rejected by the market. Let's just say that it hasn't yet been accepted by the market. ;) > Instead, there's now Python 2.6, Python 2.7, and Python 2.8. > Python 3 has turned into a debacle like Perl 6, now 10 years > old. I think

Re: myths about python 3

Daniel Fetchinson wrote: Hi folks, I was going to write this post for a while because all sorts of myths periodically come up on this list about python 3. I don't think the posters mean to spread false information on purpose, they simply are not aware of the facts. My list is surely incomplete,

Re: I really need webbrowser.open('file://') to open a web browser

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Mitchell L Model wrote: > I had some discussions with the Python documentation writers that led to the > following note being included in the Python 3.1 library documentation for > webbrowser.open: "Note that on some platforms, trying to open a filename > using t

Re: Library support for Python 3.x

Kevin Walzer wrote: > I'm going to be starting some new Python projects in Python 2.6, but > am concerned that at least three of the libraries I will be > using--pycrypto, paramiko and feedparser--are not currently supported > in Python 3.x. The authors of these programs have not given any > indica

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Re: python 3's adoption

On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 18:52 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: > * Steve Holden: > > Alf P. Steinbach wrote: > > [...] > >> The main problem with the incompatibility is for porting code, not for > >> writing code from scratch. It's also a problem wrt. learning the > >> language. And I see no good reaso

Re: python 3's adoption

On 2010-01-27, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: > * Steve Holden: >> Alf P. Steinbach wrote: >> [...] >>> The main problem with the incompatibility is for porting code, not for >>> writing code from scratch. It's also a problem wrt. learning the >>> language. And I see no good reason for it: print can't re

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Re: Library support for Python 3.x

On Jan 27, 2:03 pm, Paul Rubin wrote: > a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: > > From my POV, your question would be precisely identical if you had > > started your project when Python 2.3 was just released and wanted to > > know if the libraries you selected would be available for Python 2.6. > >

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On 07:03 pm, no.em...@nospam.invalid wrote: a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: From my POV, your question would be precisely identical if you had started your project when Python 2.3 was just released and wanted to know if the libraries you selected would be available for Python 2.6. I didn't

Re: Library support for Python 3.x

a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes: > From my POV, your question would be precisely identical if you had > started your project when Python 2.3 was just released and wanted to > know if the libraries you selected would be available for Python 2.6. I didn't realize 2.6 broke libraries that had work

Re: site.py confusion

Arnaud Delobelle wrote: George Trojan writes: Inspired by the 'Default path for files' thread I tried to use sitecustomize in my code. What puzzles me is that the site.py's main() is not executed. My sitecustomize.py is def main(): print 'In Main()' main() and the test program is import si

Re: I really need webbrowser.open('file://') to open a web browser

On Jan 15, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Timur Tabi After reading several web pages and mailing list threads, I've learned that the webbrowser module does not really support opening local files, even if I use a file:// URL designator. In most cases, webbrowser.open() will indeed open the default web brow

Re: site.py confusion

George Trojan writes: > Inspired by the 'Default path for files' thread I tried to use > sitecustomize in my code. What puzzles me is that the site.py's main() > is not executed. My sitecustomize.py is > def main(): > print 'In Main()' > main() > and the test program is > import site > #site.

Re: python 3's adoption

* Steve Holden: Alf P. Steinbach wrote: [...] The main problem with the incompatibility is for porting code, not for writing code from scratch. It's also a problem wrt. learning the language. And I see no good reason for it: print can't really do more, or less, or more conveniently (rather, one

Re: python 3's adoption

Alf P. Steinbach wrote: [...] > The main problem with the incompatibility is for porting code, not for > writing code from scratch. It's also a problem wrt. learning the > language. And I see no good reason for it: print can't really do more, > or less, or more conveniently (rather, one has to writ

Extract half screen of a video

Hello Guys, I have a video and what I want is to extract only half of the screen of it.By half screen i mean when i run the video i can say the left half(from the monitor's screen) of the video and dump the right half. Thanks Aditya -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Ad hoc lists vs ad hoc tuples

Le Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:20:53 -0800, Floris Bruynooghe a écrit : > > Is a list or tuple better or more efficient in these situations? Tuples are faster to allocate (they are allocated in one single step) and quite a bit smaller too. In some situations, in Python 2.7 and 3.1, they can also be igno

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