In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ron
Garret wrote:
> Default return type is int, which I assumed would be
> 64 bits on a 64 bit machine, but turns out it's 32. Stupid.
I think preferred ABIs these days are LP64, not ILP64 or LLP64.
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Thanks Gabriel,
I was missing the information how to create a writable buffer.
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On 20 Sep., 23:07, "Aaron \"Castironpi\" Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On Sep 20, 3:22 pm, Kay Schluehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 20 Sep., 18:33, Bruno Desthuilliers
>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The following definitions are AFAIK the only commonly accepted
> > > defin
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Thomas G. Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sep 20, 5:23=A0am, candide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Excerpt quoted fromhttp://www.astro.ufl.edu/~warner/prog/python.html:
>>
>> "About Python: Python is a high level scripting language with object
>> oriented fe
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Hi
I would appreciate some help. I am trying to learn Python and want to
use BeautifulSoup to pull some data from tables. I was really psyched
earlier tonight when I discovered that I could do this
from BeautifulSoup import BeautifulSoup
bst=file(r"c:\bstest.htm").read()
soup=BeautifulSoup(bst)
On Sep 20, 9:20 pm, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:01:42 +0200, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> > Once again, sorry
> > if me missing your correct answer drives you paranoid :-)
>
> What do you mean by that? How many other people have been talkin
On Sep 20, 6:42 pm, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> En Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:45:48 -0300, Tzury Bar Yochay
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
>
> > I can't find in the documentation the way to use these two functions.
>
> > can someone share a simple code that utilize these two functi
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:01:42 +0200, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
> Once again, sorry
> if me missing your correct answer drives you paranoid :-)
What do you mean by that? How many other people have been talking about
me?
*wink*
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:20:20 -0700 (PDT), Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>please explain this behavior to a newb:
>
a = [1,2,3,4]
b = ["a","b","c","d"]
a[0:2] = b[0:2]
The slice [0:2] represent positions 0 <= x < 2
Replaces the [1, 2] from [1, 2, 3, 4] with ['a', 'b']
Result: a
On Sep 20, 8:06Â pm, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kay Schluehr wrote:
> > Actually it is simply wrong in the mentioned case and here is the
> > proof:
>
> > def foo():
> > Â Â return 2+2
>
> > import dis
> > dis.dis(foo)
>
> > Â 2 Â Â Â Â Â 0 LOAD_CONST Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 01:56:59 +0200, Christian Heimes wrote:
> Just *don't* try to abuse lists by creating fancy stuff e.g. linked
> lists. The memory overhead is going to kill your app.
I agree with your advice not to abuse lists, but not for the reason you
give. The memory overhead of a linked
Kay Schluehr wrote:
Actually it is simply wrong in the mentioned case and here is the
proof:
def foo():
return 2+2
import dis
dis.dis(foo)
2 0 LOAD_CONST 2 (4)
3 RETURN_VALUE
OO is a heuristic method used to understand the semantics of a
programming
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:27:41 -0700, Alex Snast wrote:
> Another quick question please, is the List data structure just a dynamic
> array? If so how can you use static size array, linked list, AVL trees
> etcetera.
Before I answer your question, I should say that you can go a LONG way
with just t
Christian Heimes:
> Unless you have specific needs for highly specialized data types, use lists.
There's also the collections.deque for other related purposes.
(I suggest people willing to look at some nice C code to read the
sources of deque, Hettinger has created some refined code, very
readabl
Andrew wrote:
please explain this behavior to a newb:
Read the section on sequence slicing in the Library Reference. Use the
interactive interpreter or IDLE to perform experiments, like you did,
until you understand to your satisfaction.
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En Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:01:14 -0300, eliben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
Why are people preferring the python.org package over ActiveState's,
which seems to be more complete and includes more modules (like
pywin32) ?
They do a hard work collecting, compiling and packaging the Python
distribu
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:22:31 -0700, Alex Snast wrote:
> That's a lot of responses guys. Thanks a lot i think i got it. Another
> question, are there any pointers in python (or iterators) for when i use
> a data structure that doesn't support random access?
That surely depends on the data structu
En Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:27:41 -0300, Alex Snast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
Another quick question please, is the List data structure just a
dynamic array? If so how can you use static size array, linked list,
AVL trees etcetera.
Yes, lists are implemented as dynamic arrays (but you shouldn't
Alex Snast wrote:
Another quick question please, is the List data structure just a
dynamic array? If so how can you use static size array, linked list,
AVL trees etcetera.
You should treat Python lists as an opaque item. You shouldn't concern
yourself with the implementation details. Python li
En Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:45:48 -0300, Tzury Bar Yochay
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
I can't find in the documentation the way to use these two functions.
can someone share a simple code that utilize these two functions?
struct.pack_into is intended to "fill" a buffer you got from somewhere,
On Sep 20, 8:13 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Duncan Booth:
>
> > > e.g. the python equivalent to the c++ loop
> > > for (i = 10; i >= 0; --i)
>
> > The exact equivalent would be:
> > for i in range(10, -1, -1): print i
>
> I'd use xrange there. Anyway, I have always felt that Python synta
On Sep 20, 8:13 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Duncan Booth:
>
> > > e.g. the python equivalent to the c++ loop
> > > for (i = 10; i >= 0; --i)
>
> > The exact equivalent would be:
> > for i in range(10, -1, -1): print i
>
> I'd use xrange there. Anyway, I have always felt that Python synta
On Sep 20, 2:20 pm, Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> please explain this behavior to a newb:
>
> >>> a = [1,2,3,4]
> >>> b = ["a","b","c","d"]
> >>> a
> [1, 2, 3, 4]
> >>> b
>
> ['a', 'b', 'c', 'd']
>
> >>> a[0:2]
> [1, 2]
> >>> a
> [1, 2, 3, 4]
> >>> b[2:4]
> ['c', 'd']
> >>> a[0:2] = b[0:2]
>
please explain this behavior to a newb:
>>> a = [1,2,3,4]
>>> b = ["a","b","c","d"]
>>> a
[1, 2, 3, 4]
>>> b
['a', 'b', 'c', 'd']
>>> a[0:2]
[1, 2]
>>> a
[1, 2, 3, 4]
>>> b[2:4]
['c', 'd']
>>> a[0:2] = b[0:2]
>>> b[2:4] = a[2:4]
>>> a
['a', 'b', 3, 4]
>>> b
['a', 'b', 3, 4]
>>>
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On Sep 20, 3:22Â pm, Kay Schluehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 20 Sep., 18:33, Bruno Desthuilliers
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The following definitions are AFAIK the only commonly accepted
> > definitions about OO:
>
> > 1/ an object is defined by identity, state and behaviour
> > 2/ obj
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:10 PM, dmitrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hi all,
> I have the problem:
> a func has been binded to a Button:
>
> RunPause = Button(root, textvariable = t, command = lambda:
> invokeRunPause(p))
>
> def invokeRunPause(p):
>if p.state == 'init':
>p.state = '
On 20 Sep., 18:33, Bruno Desthuilliers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The following definitions are AFAIK the only commonly accepted
> definitions about OO:
>
> 1/ an object is defined by identity, state and behaviour
> 2/ objects interacts by sending messages each other
> 3/ an OO program is made o
I think my question was not very clear. I narrowed the problem down to
a reconstructable small example, consisting of a python script (a very
simple interpreter) and three lines to execute in it:
== start simple interpreter file ==
import os
import sys
import time
def run():
while
Harald Luessen a écrit :
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
# Harald : uncomment this and run test_results. As far as I can tell, it
# doesn't yields the expected results
## IN7 = IN[:]
## def sortk7(n):
## return n.coordinates[0]
## def doubles7():
## "is ordering better
Bruno Desthuilliers a écrit :
Alexzive a écrit :
Hello there :) ,
(snip)
Now the obvious winner is pruebono
Correction (my bad) : Steven D'Aprano submitted the set-based solution
first. So the winners are Steven and pruebono.
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Sir,
Let me state that do have extensive experience with developing binary files.
Please note that I have followed all of the instructions to the letter as far
as developing a DLL to be imported. However, it is not working correctly. I
believe it might be my system environment variables??
Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:43:00 +0200, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Now the obvious winner is pruebono - even unoptimized, using sets seems
to be *way* faster than even the most optimized corrected version of
your algorithm.
I'm not being snarky about losing priority here
rmac a écrit :
the following code attempts to extract a symbol name from a string:
extensionStart = int(filename.rfind('.'))
rfind returns an int, so passing it to the int type constructor is useless.
filenameStart = int(filename.rfind('/'))
idem
#print 'Extension Start - ' +
On Sep 20, 1:34�pm, "Guilherme Polo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Mensanator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Beacuse in 2.6, Python apparently has fixed a discrepency that existed
> > in previous versions.
>
> > In the IDLE that comes with 2.5, typing "as", to wit "i
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Hi,
I can't find in the documentation the way to use these two functions.
can someone share a simple code that utilize these two functions?
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On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Mensanator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Beacuse in 2.6, Python apparently has fixed a discrepency that existed
> in previous versions.
>
> In the IDLE that comes with 2.5, typing "as", to wit "import random as
> ran",
> the words "import" and "as" highlight in red,
candide a écrit :
Excerpt quoted from http://www.astro.ufl.edu/~warner/prog/python.html :
"About Python: Python is a high level scripting language with object
oriented features.
(...)
Python supports OOP and classes to an extent, but is not a full OOP
language."
Thanks for any comment.
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm not sure that closing stdin and stout are a good idea. This could
>have side-effects for other parts of your program, and will almost
>certainly end badly if you're running in the interactive interpreter.
>
Its a very simple thingy - there will o
On 20 Sep, 19:42, "Aaron \"Castironpi\" Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Wikipedia puts it decently: "mainly for OO programming, but with some
> procedural elements."
>
>
When it comes to Python and object-oriented programming, you can't
leave out the ducks. ;-)
Paul
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On Sep 20, 5:14 am, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kay Schluehr wrote:
> > Answer: if you want to define an entity it has to be defined inside a
> > class. If you want to access an entity you have to use the dot
> > operator. Therefore Java is OO but Python is not.
>
> you're satirising
Blubaugh, David A. wrote:
(no need to shout when filling in the subject line, thanks)
I have now been able to generate a .pyd file from a FORTRAN
> file that I am trying to interface with python. I was able
> to execute this with an additional insight into how f2py
> operates.
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Duncan Booth:
> > e.g. the python equivalent to the c++ loop
> > for (i = 10; i >= 0; --i)
>
> The exact equivalent would be:
> for i in range(10, -1, -1): print i
I'd use xrange there. Anyway, I have always felt that Python syntax
not easy to understand at first sight, expecially when you
To All,
I have now been able to generate a .pyd file from a FORTRAN file that I am
trying to interface with python. I was able to execute this with an additional
insight into how f2py operates. It seems as though the documentation requires
an upgrade, since there appears to be missing info
satoru wrote:
On Sep 20, 6:35 pm, Aidan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
satoru wrote:
hi, all
i want to check if a variable is iterable like a list, how can i
implement this?
this would be one way, though I'm sure others exist:
if hasattr(yourVar, '__iter__'):
# do stuff
thank you,but th
Gary Herron wrote:
> Or you can create a new reversed (copy of the original) list and iterate
> through it
>
> for item in reversed(L):
> print item
It's not a copy, it's a view:
>>> items = [1,2,3]
>>> r = reversed(items)
>>> items[:] = "abc"
>>> for item in r: print item
...
c
b
a
Peter
-
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
e.g. the python equivalent to the c++ loop
for (i = 10; i >= 0; --i)
use range with a negative step:
for i in range(10-1, -1, -1):
...
or just reverse the range:
for i in reversed(range(10)):
...
(and to include the 10 in the range, add one to
Alex Snast wrote:
Hello
I'm new to python and i can't figure out how to write a reverse for
loop in python
e.g. the python equivalent to the c++ loop
for (i = 10; i >= 0; --i)
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What are you trying to loop through?
If it's the contents
Alex Snast wrote:
I'm new to python and i can't figure out how to write a reverse for
loop in python
e.g. the python equivalent to the c++ loop
for (i = 10; i >= 0; --i)
use range with a negative step:
for i in range(10-1, -1, -1):
...
or just reverse the range:
for i in r
2008/9/20 Alex Snast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'm new to python and i can't figure out how to write a reverse for
> loop in python
>
> e.g. the python equivalent to the c++ loop
>
> for (i = 10; i >= 0; --i)
for i in range(10, 0, -1):
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Alex Snast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I'm new to python and i can't figure out how to write a reverse for
> loop in python
>
> e.g. the python equivalent to the c++ loop
>
> for (i = 10; i >= 0; --i)
>
The exact equivalent would be:
for i in range(10, -1, -1): print i
ex
On Sep 20, 11:16�am, Alex Snast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I'm new to python and i can't figure out how to write a reverse for
> loop in python
>
> e.g. the python equivalent to the c++ loop
>
> for (i = 10; i >= 0; --i)
>>> for i in xrange(10,-1,-1): print i,
10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0
Alex Snast a écrit :
Hello
I'm new to python and i can't figure out how to write a reverse for
loop in python
e.g. the python equivalent to the c++ loop
for (i = 10; i >= 0; --i)
for (i = 0; i < 10; i--) -> for i in range(10):
for (i = 10; i >= 0; --i) -> for i in range(10,-1,-1):
Thoma
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in previous versions.
In the IDLE that comes with 2.5, typing "as", to wit "import random as
ran",
the words "import" and "as" highlight in red, so you can't use them as
variable
names or you'll get a syntax error.
Ah, but you
Hello
I'm new to python and i can't figure out how to write a reverse for
loop in python
e.g. the python equivalent to the c++ loop
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On 20 Set, 07:59, Frank Millman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to introduce an element of workflow management (aka Business
> Process Management) into the business/accounting system I am
> developing. I used google to try to find out what the curr
On 20 Set, 07:59, Frank Millman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to introduce an element of workflow management (aka Business
> Process Management) into the business/accounting system I am
> developing. I used google to try to find out what the current state of
> the art is. After several month
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Colin J. Williams wrote:
"foreach: for x in array: statements
Loops over the array given by array. On each iteration, the value of
the current element is assigned to x and the internal array pointer is
advanced by one. "
This could be a useful addition to Python.
for
On Sep 20, 5:23 am, candide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Excerpt quoted fromhttp://www.astro.ufl.edu/~warner/prog/python.html:
>
> "About Python: Python is a high level scripting language with object
> oriented features.
> (...)
> Python supports OOP and classes to an extent, but is not a full OOP
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Kay Schluehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 20 Sep., 12:14, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Kay Schluehr wrote:
>> > Answer: if you want to define an entity it has to be defined inside a
>> > class. If you want to access an entity you have to use the d
On 20 Sep., 12:14, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kay Schluehr wrote:
> > Answer: if you want to define an entity it has to be defined inside a
> > class. If you want to access an entity you have to use the dot
> > operator. Therefore Java is OO but Python is not.
>
> you're satirising
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:14:26 +0200, Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
> class console(object):
> """
> This spoofs a single file like object, using stdout & - in
> (Minimalistic proof of concept implementation) """
>
> def __init__(self):
> self.read = sys.stdin.read
> sel
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:13:08 +, Duncan Booth wrote:
> This is a good indication that the
> author doesn't know much about OOP.
I think you can drop the last two words :)
Actually that's unfair -- it looks like he knows quite a bit about the
metallicity of quasers, but he's just parroting a
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candide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Excerpt quoted from http://www.astro.ufl.edu/~warner/prog/python.html :
>
> "About Python: Python is a high level scripting language with object
> oriented features.
> (...)
> Python supports OOP and classes to an extent, but is not a full OOP
> language."
>
> for-in could be a useful addition to Python? looks like Guido's used
> his time machine again, then, since it's been around since the pre-1.0
> days:
>
> http://www.python.org/doc/ref/for.html
He somehow must have misinterpreted
http://www.astro.ufl.edu/~warner/prog/python.html
which has
Colin J. Williams wrote:
"foreach: for x in array: statements
>
Loops over the array given by array. On each iteration, the value of the
current element is assigned to x and the internal array pointer is
advanced by one. "
This could be a useful addition to Python.
for-in could be a usefu
On Sep 20, 8:54 pm, satoru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 20, 6:35 pm, Aidan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > satoru wrote:
> > > hi, all
> > > i want to check if a variable is iterable like a list, how can i
> > > implement this?
>
> > this would be one way, though I'm sure others exist:
>
>
candide wrote:
Excerpt quoted from http://www.astro.ufl.edu/~warner/prog/python.html :
"About Python: Python is a high level scripting language with object
oriented features.
(...)
Python supports OOP and classes to an extent, but is not a full OOP
language."
Thanks for any comment.
"for
satoru wrote:
> hi, all
> i want to check if a variable is iterable like a list, how can i
> implement this?
untested
def is_iterable(param):
try:
iter(param)
except TypeError:
return False
else:
return True
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On Sep 20, 6:35 pm, Aidan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> satoru wrote:
> > hi, all
> > i want to check if a variable is iterable like a list, how can i
> > implement this?
>
> this would be one way, though I'm sure others exist:
>
> if hasattr(yourVar, '__iter__'):
> # do stuff
thank you,but
On Sep 20, 2:23 am, candide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Excerpt quoted fromhttp://www.astro.ufl.edu/~warner/prog/python.html:
>
> "About Python: Python is a high level scripting language with object
> oriented features.
> (...)
> Python supports OOP and classes to an extent, but is not a full OOP
satoru wrote:
hi, all
i want to check if a variable is iterable like a list, how can i
implement this?
this would be one way, though I'm sure others exist:
if hasattr(yourVar, '__iter__'):
# do stuff
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On Sep 20, 1:11 am, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 为爱而生 wrote:
> > File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools/command/sdist.py",
> > line 98, in entries_finder
> > log.warn("unrecognized .svn/entries format in %s", dirname)
> > NameError: global name 'log' is not defined
>
Kay Schluehr wrote:
Answer: if you want to define an entity it has to be defined inside a
class. If you want to access an entity you have to use the dot
operator. Therefore Java is OO but Python is not.
you're satirising the quoted author's cargo-cultish view of object
orientation, right?
On 20 Sep., 11:23, candide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Excerpt quoted fromhttp://www.astro.ufl.edu/~warner/prog/python.html:
>
> "About Python: Python is a high level scripting language with object
> oriented features.
> (...)
> Python supports OOP and classes to an extent, but is not a full OOP
>
hi, all
i want to check if a variable is iterable like a list, how can i
implement this?
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This is wrong. Python _is_ a full OOP language.
Everything form modules, functions to basic data types are an object.
--JamesMills
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 7:23 PM, candide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Excerpt quoted from http://www.astro.ufl.edu/~warner/prog/python.html :
>
> "About Python: Pytho
Excerpt quoted from http://www.astro.ufl.edu/~warner/prog/python.html :
"About Python: Python is a high level scripting language with object
oriented features.
(...)
Python supports OOP and classes to an extent, but is not a full OOP
language."
Thanks for any comment.
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I am writing a small application with a simple ascii based menu.
The menu is used to test individual functions, and to change some timings.
Otherwise the application just runs automatically, depending on command
line options.
I want to be able to redirect the menu.
The console, a serial port, or
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为爱而生 wrote:
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools/command/sdist.py",
line 98, in entries_finder
log.warn("unrecognized .svn/entries format in %s", dirname)
NameError: global name 'log' is not defined
global name 'log' is not defined to the line 98!!!
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