Does unicode() equal to unicode(sys.getfilesystemencoding()) ?

2007-06-05 Thread 人言落日是天涯,望极天涯不见家
The follow statement comes from the Python 2.5 documentation -- encode( [encoding[,errors]]) Return an encoded version of the string. Default encoding is the current default string encoding. errors may be given to set a different error handling scheme. --- what's the "Defau

who know?

2007-06-05 Thread Michel Claveau
Hi! This image show IronPython. But... what is it? Link : http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/bb510103.vss_IronPython_large.jpg -- @-salutations Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: magic names in python

2007-06-05 Thread Lenard Lindstrom
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:08:31 +, Lenard Lindstrom wrote: > >> Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:19:35 +, Lenard Lindstrom wrote: >>> What is "magic" about __init__ and __repr__? They are identifiers just like "foo" or "JustAnotherClass". T

Re: subprocess leaves child living

2007-06-05 Thread Nick Craig-Wood
Thomas Dybdahl Ahle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But you can't ever catch sigkill. > Isn't there a way to make sure the os kills the childprocess when the > parrent dies? Not as far as I know. If you've got a pipe open to the child then killing the parent should deliver SIGPIPE to the child w

Re: which "GUI module" you suggest me to use?

2007-06-05 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >ZioMiP je napisao/la: >> Hi to all... >> >> I'm actually using Tkinter for my GUI... but I need to "put a piece of a >> web-page in a widget" how can I do? >> >> which GUI module do you suggest me to use for do that? >> >> or which GUI

Re: Who uses Python?

2007-06-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-06-06, Vijayendra Bapte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Python is a rapid application development language..we uses it > every where.. in web application development..GUI > development..Automation/Regression test-suite > development..Text/XML processing..website Scrapping Boy, do I know some

Re: Strange errors on exit

2007-06-05 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:59:18 -0300, Thomas Dybdahl Ahle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > When I close my (gtk) program, I get errors like the below. > It seams that when the interpreter shuts down, it sets every variable to > None, but continues running the threads, (seems only in cases where > t

Re: Who uses Python?

2007-06-05 Thread Vijayendra Bapte
On Jun 5, 12:37 am, walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I mean other than sysadmins, programmers, and web-site developers? > > I have heard of some DBAs who use a lot of python. > > I suppose some scientists. I think python is used in bioinformatics. I > think some math and physics people use p

Re: which "GUI module" you suggest me to use?

2007-06-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jun 6, 12:13 pm, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 5, 4:17 pm, ZioMiP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Cameron Laird ha scritto: > > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > > ZioMiP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Hi to all... > > > >> I'm actually using Tkinter for my GUI... but I

Re: web development without using frameworks

2007-06-05 Thread Michele Simionato
On Jun 5, 9:24 pm, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 03:01:01PM -0400, Chris Stewart wrote: > > I'm interested in learning web based python without the use of fancy > > frameworks > > that are out there. I'm having a hard time coming up with resources and > > exa

Re: Who uses Python?

2007-06-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jun 6, 12:07 pm, Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am getting the idea that most python "programmers" > > use python more > > like a tool, rather than as their primary > > specialization. In other > > words, python is usually not the primar

Re: Embedding Python in C

2007-06-05 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Tue, 05 Jun 2007 03:41:19 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > On 5 Jun., 01:32, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yes, it appears that you are building a plain list but your code is >> expecting another kind of object. I'm unfamiliar with Numeric arrays, if >> that is what y

Re: c[:]()

2007-06-05 Thread Erik Max Francis
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:26:50 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: > >> "Warren Stringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | I am porting code that >> only uses this form |a[:4]b() >> | >> | Which translates to: >> | >> | for i in range(4): >> |a

Re: Which class's comparison function is called?

2007-06-05 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:16:53 -0700, Bill Jackson wrote: [snip] > From the above, it seems that Python always uses the function defined > by the class on the LEFT. However, I don't understand the following > then: [snip] In general, infix operators like + - * etc. will call the appropriate me

Re: Which class's comparison function is called?

2007-06-05 Thread Basilisk96
Try adding the following diagnostic messages to your __eq__ class definitions, and see if it will dispel the confusion for the four equality tests you have tried: class A: def __init__(self,a): self.a = a def __eq__(self, other): print "(A) self:%r, other:%r" %(self.__class__,

Re: get_traceback

2007-06-05 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:03:04 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Thanks Gabriel. That was exactly what I was looking for. Also, I'm > glad to make a connection to the StringIO class. I'm sure I will > remember it the next time I need it. Glad to see it helped. Certainly StringIO is a good t

Re: web development without using frameworks

2007-06-05 Thread Chris Stewart
Interesting. So I guess to accomplish my goals, I'll have to explore one of these frameworks. On 6/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jun 5, 9:24 pm, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 03:01:01PM -0400, Chris Stewart wrote: > > I'm intereste

Re: c[:]()

2007-06-05 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:26:50 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: > "Warren Stringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | I am porting code that > only uses this form |a[:4]b() > | > | Which translates to: > | > | for i in range(4): > |a[i].b() > > Or, more directly and p

Re: copying generatrors

2007-06-05 Thread Horace Enea
Steve, Hey, thanks. I'll try that. Horace In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Horace Enea wrote: > > My example wasn't very good. Here's another try: > > > > def foo(): > >yield 1 > >yield 2 > >yield 3 > > > > f = foo() > > f.next() > > 1 >

Which class's comparison function is called?

2007-06-05 Thread Bill Jackson
For example, class A: def __init__(self,a): self.a = a def __eq__(self, other): return self.a == other.a class B: def __init__(self,b): self.b = b def __eq__(self, other): return self.b == other.b A(1) == B(1) ---> AttributeError: B instance has no attribute a B

Re: which "GUI module" you suggest me to use?

2007-06-05 Thread Eric
On Jun 5, 4:17 pm, ZioMiP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cameron Laird ha scritto: > > > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > ZioMiP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi to all... > > >> I'm actually using Tkinter for my GUI... but I need to "put a piece of a > >> web-page in a widget" how can I do

Re: Who uses Python?

2007-06-05 Thread Steve Howell
--- walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am getting the idea that most python "programmers" > use python more > like a tool, rather than as their primary > specialization. In other > words, python is usually not the primary > specialization. I'm one of the exceptions to this rule. My prima

Re: excel library without COM

2007-06-05 Thread james_027
On Jun 5, 6:17 pm, John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 5, 1:04 pm, james_027 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 4, 8:16 pm, John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Jun 4, 3:52 pm, yuce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > i think this one works pretty nice:http://www.

Re: copying generatrors

2007-06-05 Thread Steven Bethard
Horace Enea wrote: > My example wasn't very good. Here's another try: > > def foo(): >yield 1 >yield 2 >yield 3 > > f = foo() > f.next() > 1 > > g=copy(f) # copy the generator after an iteration > > f.next() > 2 > f.next() > 3 > > g.next() > 2 > > I want to copy the generat

Re: copying generatrors

2007-06-05 Thread Horace Enea
My example wasn't very good. Here's another try: def foo(): yield 1 yield 2 yield 3 f = foo() f.next() 1 g=copy(f) # copy the generator after an iteration f.next() 2 f.next() 3 g.next() 2 I want to copy the generator's state after one or more iterations. In article <[EMAI

Re: which "GUI module" you suggest me to use?

2007-06-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-06-05, ZioMiP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know that WxPython work only under Windows and PyGTK work only under > Linux... You 'know' wrong. wxPython works fine under Windows, Linux and OSX. PyGTK works under Linux and Windows, but doens't use native widgets under Windows, so it wo

Need a Little Help on Tkinter and Python

2007-06-05 Thread W. Watson
I have about a 1600 line Pythron program I'd like to make some simple mods to, but have really just a nodding acquaintance with Python and Tkinter. I know quite a few languages, including C++. Let's change that. I've not used anything but C in recent years, and C++ was in my bag before that alon

Re: copying generatrors

2007-06-05 Thread Matimus
Why not just do this: >>> def foo(): ... yield 1 ... yield 2 ... yield 3 ... >>> f = foo() >>> g = foo() >>> f.next() 1 >>> f.next() 2 >>> f.next() 3 >>> g.next() 1 >>> g.next() 2 >>> g.next() 3 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PATH or PYTHONPATH under Windows ???

2007-06-05 Thread Joe Salmeri
Modify the PATHEXT environment variable to include .py; For example the default one on Windows XP is: PATHEXT=.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH; Modify it so it says: PATHEXT=.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.py Now you can run python programs from your c

Re: which "GUI module" you suggest me to use?

2007-06-05 Thread ZioMiP
Cameron Laird ha scritto: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > ZioMiP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi to all... >> >> I'm actually using Tkinter for my GUI... but I need to "put a piece of a >> web-page in a widget" how can I do? >> >> which GUI module do you suggest me to use for do that? >> >>

copying generatrors

2007-06-05 Thread Horace Enea
Does anyone have code to copy a generator? Here is what I'd like to do: def foo(): yield 1 yield 2 yield 3 f = foo() g = copy(foo) print f.next() 1 print f.next() 2 print g.next() 1 Thanks, Horace -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python rocks

2007-06-05 Thread Klaas
On Jun 3, 8:56 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: > Allowing a trailing ! in method names has no such cost, because in no > language I know is ! used as a "postfix unary operator"; the gain in the > convention "mutators end with !" is not huge, but substantial. So, the > tradeoffs are d

Re: which "GUI module" you suggest me to use?

2007-06-05 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ZioMiP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi to all... > >I'm actually using Tkinter for my GUI... but I need to "put a piece of a >web-page in a widget" how can I do? > >which GUI module do you suggest me to use for do that? > >or which GUI module do you suggest me to us

Re: magic names in python

2007-06-05 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:08:31 +, Lenard Lindstrom wrote: > Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:19:35 +, Lenard Lindstrom wrote: >> >>> What is "magic" about __init__ and __repr__? They are identifiers just >>> like "foo" or "JustAnotherClass". They have no special meaning to

Re: Does Boost.Python participate in cyclic gc?

2007-06-05 Thread Matimus
> The solution was to recognize when we where finished with it to set > self.over_there to None. To my knowledge python does not handle all cyclic gc anyway. Here is some information from the gc documentation: [doc] garbage A list of objects which the collector found to be unreachable but could

Re: Who uses Python?

2007-06-05 Thread Klaas
On Jun 4, 12:37 pm, walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I mean other than sysadmins, programmers, and web-site developers? > > I have heard of some DBAs who use a lot of python. > > I suppose some scientists. I think python is used in bioinformatics. I > think some math and physics people use p

Re: PATH or PYTHONPATH under Windows ???

2007-06-05 Thread Giuseppe Di Martino
Il Tue, 05 Jun 2007 23:57:15 +0200, Stef Mientki ha scritto: > hello, > > after cleaning up a PC, Python can't find any libraries anymore. > But happily I've still one PC, where Python is running perfect. > Now I always read about the environment variable "PYTHONPATH". > But on neither PC there e

Re: subprocess leaves child living

2007-06-05 Thread Michael Bentley
On Jun 5, 2007, at 5:13 PM, Michael Bentley wrote: > > On Jun 5, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Thomas Dybdahl Ahle wrote: > >> Den Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:46:39 -0500 skrev Michael Bentley: >> >>> But actually *that* is an orphan process. When a parent process >>> dies >>> and the child continues to run, the

Re: c[:]()

2007-06-05 Thread Terry Reedy
"Warren Stringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | I am porting code that only uses this form |a[:4]b() | | Which translates to: | | for i in range(4): |a[i].b() Or, more directly and perhaps more efficiently: for e in a[:4]: e.b() tjr -- http://mail.py

Re: which "GUI module" you suggest me to use?

2007-06-05 Thread montyphyton
ZioMiP je napisao/la: > Hi to all... > > I'm actually using Tkinter for my GUI... but I need to "put a piece of a > web-page in a widget" how can I do? > > which GUI module do you suggest me to use for do that? > > or which GUI module do you suggest me to use at all? > > I'm acutally using Windows

Re: which "GUI module" you suggest me to use?

2007-06-05 Thread ZioMiP
Matimus ha scritto: >> I know that WxPython work only under Windows > > Hmm, there seems to be some disparity between what you know and the > truth... > > WxPython works everywhere (Windows, Linux, MacOS), and it works well. > Also, it has web widgets that come standard (wx.html.HtmlWindow). > >

Re: which "GUI module" you suggest me to use?

2007-06-05 Thread Matimus
> I know that WxPython work only under Windows Hmm, there seems to be some disparity between what you know and the truth... WxPython works everywhere (Windows, Linux, MacOS), and it works well. Also, it has web widgets that come standard (wx.html.HtmlWindow). Matt -- http://mail.python.org/mai

Re: which "GUI module" you suggest me to use?

2007-06-05 Thread Simon Yau
On Jun 5, 2:57 pm, ZioMiP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi to all... > > I'm actually using Tkinter for my GUI... but I need to "put a piece of a > web-page in a widget" how can I do? > > which GUI module do you suggest me to use for do that? > > or which GUI module do you suggest me to use at all?

Re: Logging: how to suppress default output when adding handlers?

2007-06-05 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Jun 5, 8:38 pm, Chris Shenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, I think this is the cause. Unfortunately I'm using a couple > dozen files and a bunch more libraries and if they're doing a logging.debug() > or whatnot they're creating this. I wouldn't have thought that well-written third part

Re: subprocess leaves child living

2007-06-05 Thread Michael Bentley
On Jun 5, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Thomas Dybdahl Ahle wrote: > Den Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:46:39 -0500 skrev Michael Bentley: > >> But actually *that* is an orphan process. When a parent process dies >> and the child continues to run, the child becomes an orphan and is >> adopted by init. Orphan processe

Re: Tkinter - resize tkMessageBox

2007-06-05 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jim-on-linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Monday 04 June 2007 16:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >wrote: >> Hi, >> Is there a way to resize the width of the >> "tkMessageBox.askyesno" dialog box, so that the >> text does not wrap to the next line. Thanks >> Rahul >I don't

Re: Tkinter - resize tkMessageBox

2007-06-05 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Glenn Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 4 Jun, 21:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Is there a way to resize the width of the "tkMessageBox.askyesno" >> dialog box, so that the text does not wrap to the next line. > >You can use the Tk option database, either e

Re: which "GUI module" you suggest me to use?

2007-06-05 Thread Michel Claveau
Hi! Only under Win: PLUIE (http://ponx.org/ponx/guie) This GUI is natively HTML. -- @-salutations Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

which "GUI module" you suggest me to use?

2007-06-05 Thread ZioMiP
Hi to all... I'm actually using Tkinter for my GUI... but I need to "put a piece of a web-page in a widget" how can I do? which GUI module do you suggest me to use for do that? or which GUI module do you suggest me to use at all? I'm acutally using Windows Xp but I also use Linux... I know th

PATH or PYTHONPATH under Windows ???

2007-06-05 Thread Stef Mientki
hello, after cleaning up a PC, Python can't find any libraries anymore. But happily I've still one PC, where Python is running perfect. Now I always read about the environment variable "PYTHONPATH". But on neither PC there exists a "PYTHONPATH". On the PC that works ok, there is the standard "PAT

Re: how to print out each single char from a string in HEX format?

2007-06-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-06-05, Troels Thomsen wrote: > with the printf inspired solution you can set the precision like this: > a = "12\n34" for c in a: > ... print "%#04x" % ord(c), > ... > 0x31 0x32 0x0a 0x33 0x34 And if you just want to do the conversion w/o printing: >>> a = "12\n34" >>> ' '.j

Re: subprocess leaves child living

2007-06-05 Thread Thomas Dybdahl Ahle
Den Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:46:39 -0500 skrev Michael Bentley: > But actually *that* is an orphan process. When a parent process dies > and the child continues to run, the child becomes an orphan and is > adopted by init. Orphan processes can be cleaned up on most Unices with > 'init q' (or somethin

Re: Getting mount stats for filesystems

2007-06-05 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I am looking at ctypes and it might do what I need but I can't figure > out a way to convert a Python File object to a C FILE pointer (which is > the needed argument for getmntent). > > Any ideas? I think you are supposed to pass the pointer to getmntent that you obtained from setmntent (likely

Re: subprocess leaves child living

2007-06-05 Thread Thomas Dybdahl Ahle
Den Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:01:44 +0200 skrev Rob Wolfe: > Thomas Dybdahl Ahle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> But you can't ever catch sigkill. > > There is no protection against sigkill. > >> Isn't there a way to make sure the os kills the childprocess when the >> parrent dies? > > If the paren

Re: how to print out each single char from a string in HEX format?

2007-06-05 Thread Troels Thomsen
> Great! It works. > There is a builtin function called hex() that does the same, but also shares the same problem as the solution above: >>> hex(10) '0xa' >>> This is probably not "nice" in your printouts, it doesn't allign. with the printf inspired solution you can set the precision like

Re: Getting mount stats for filesystems

2007-06-05 Thread Mitko Haralanov
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:32:21 +0200 "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You could try to invoke getmntent(3). I'm not aware of a Python wrapper > for it, so you either try to write one yourself in C, or use ctypes to > write it in Python. I am looking at ctypes and it might do what I ne

Strange errors on exit

2007-06-05 Thread Thomas Dybdahl Ahle
When I close my (gtk) program, I get errors like the below. It seams that when the interpreter shuts down, it sets every variable to None, but continues running the threads, (seems only in cases where they've just been asleep) I don't think this would be intended behavior? Exception in thread Th

Re: subprocess leaves child living

2007-06-05 Thread Michael Bentley
On Jun 5, 2007, at 3:01 PM, Rob Wolfe wrote: > Thomas Dybdahl Ahle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> But you can't ever catch sigkill. > > There is no protection against sigkill. > >> Isn't there a way to make sure the os kills the childprocess when the >> parrent dies? > > If the parent dies sudd

Re: subprocess leaves child living

2007-06-05 Thread Rob Wolfe
Thomas Dybdahl Ahle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But you can't ever catch sigkill. There is no protection against sigkill. > Isn't there a way to make sure the os kills the childprocess when the > parrent dies? If the parent dies suddenly without any notification childprocesses become zombies

Re: web development without using frameworks

2007-06-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jun 5, 9:24 pm, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 03:01:01PM -0400, Chris Stewart wrote: > > I'm interested in learning web based python without the use of fancy > > frameworks > > that are out there. I'm having a hard time coming up with resources and > > exa

Re: Who uses Python?

2007-06-05 Thread Stef Mientki
walterbyrd wrote: > On Jun 5, 3:01 am, Maria R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I tend to agree with some earlier poster that if you use Python you >> are, in a sense, a programmer :o) >> > > Yes, in a sense. But, in another sense, that is sort of like saying > that people who post on message boards

Re: Logging: how to suppress default output when adding handlers?

2007-06-05 Thread Chris Shenton
Vinay Sajip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The default handler is created because you are calling the convenience > functions of the logging package: logging.error, etc. If you don't > want the default handler to be created, either > > (a) Configure the logging system yourself before any logging ca

Re: Getting mount stats for filesystems

2007-06-05 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Mitko Haralanov schrieb: > On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:14:01 +0200 > "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Ah, ok. I recommend to parse /proc/mounts. > > I was looking for something that reminded me less of Perl and more of C > but haven't been able to find such a method. You could try to

Does Boost.Python participate in cyclic gc?

2007-06-05 Thread skip
We encountered a situation today where it appeared that a Boost.Python-provided class didn't participate in Python's cyclic garbage collection. The wrapped C++ instance held a reference to a method in the Python object which referenced the Boostified C++ instance, e.g.: class Foo: def

Re: web development without using frameworks

2007-06-05 Thread Christoph Haas
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 03:01:01PM -0400, Chris Stewart wrote: > I'm interested in learning web based python without the use of fancy > frameworks > that are out there. I'm having a hard time coming up with resources and > examples for this. Does anyone have anything that could be helpful? I'd

Python for industrial control (was: Who uses Python?)

2007-06-05 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hendrik van Rooyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "walterbyrd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Anything else? Finance? Web-analytics? SEO? Digital art? > >Industrial control and alarm annunciation . .

Re: How do you htmlentities in Python

2007-06-05 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matimus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Jun 4, 6:31 am, "js " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi list. >> >> If I'm not mistaken, in python, there's no standard library to convert >> html entities, like & or > into their applicable characters. >> >> htmlentitydefs prov

Re: Getting mount stats for filesystems

2007-06-05 Thread Mitko Haralanov
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:14:01 +0200 "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, ok. I recommend to parse /proc/mounts. I was looking for something that reminded me less of Perl and more of C but haven't been able to find such a method. -- Mitko Haralanov [

RE: c[:]()

2007-06-05 Thread Warren Stringer
Roland Puntaier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Warren, can you please restate your point. Hey Roland, where were you a few days ago ;-) I think most suggestions were valid, in their own context. Only yesterday, was I finally able to get it in perspective, so here goes: There are two idioms: a domain

web development without using frameworks

2007-06-05 Thread Chris Stewart
I'm interested in learning web based python without the use of fancy frameworks that are out there. I'm having a hard time coming up with resources and examples for this. Does anyone have anything that could be helpful? -- Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.compiledmonkey.com -- http:/

Re: itertools.groupby

2007-06-05 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
On 27 May 2007 10:49:06 -0700, 7stud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 27, 11:28 am, Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The groupby method has its uses, but it's behavior is > > going to be very surprising to anybody that has used > > the "group by" syntax of SQL, because Python's groupb

Re: Python 3000: Standard API for archives?

2007-06-05 Thread Chuck Rhode
Tim Golden wrote this on Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:55:30 +0100. My reply is below. > Chuck Rhode wrote: >> samwyse wrote this on Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:02:03 +. My reply is >> below. >>> I think it would be a good thing if a standardized interface >>> existed, similar to PEP 247. This would make i

Re: Python for embedded systems with memory constraints

2007-06-05 Thread Jürgen Urner
Who else is using python (programmers, scientists, finance)? Me! Graduated in fine arts. Python is what I do when I am fed up with all those colors. Much easier to manufacture sense with. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Sending cookies with python. When download with python

2007-06-05 Thread Matimus
On Jun 5, 9:14 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I need to download files off a password protected website. So if I try > to download files off the site with python I will be blocked. Is there > anyway to send cookies with python. So I will be authenticated. Yes. I haven't done it but I know you shou

Re: url encode

2007-06-05 Thread Yongjian Xu
you can take a look urlib.quote or quote_plus methods. Jim On 6/5/07, Lee Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I am trying to urlencode a string. In python the only thing I can see is the urllib.urlencode(). But this takes a dictionary, and returns "key=value", which is not what I wan

Re: Getting mount stats for filesystems

2007-06-05 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I am on machine A, which has a NFS mounted filesystem hosted on machine > B. All I need to find out is whether the NFS filesystem is mounted > using tcp or udp. Ah, ok. I recommend to parse /proc/mounts. Regards, Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: magic names in python

2007-06-05 Thread Lenard Lindstrom
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:19:35 +, Lenard Lindstrom wrote: > >> What is "magic" about __init__ and __repr__? They are identifiers just >> like "foo" or "JustAnotherClass". They have no special meaning to the >> Python compiler. The leading and trailing double underscore

Re: Getting mount stats for filesystems

2007-06-05 Thread Mitko Haralanov
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:19:08 +0200 "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not quite sure what you want to achieve. You are on machine B, > and you want to find out whether a remote file system (on machine A) > is mounted remotely (say, from machine C)? Ok, let me try to explain: I am

ANN: matplotlib 0.90.1 graphing package

2007-06-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
matplotlib-0.90.1 has just been released. matplotlib is a graphing package for python which can be used interactively from the python shell ala Mathematica or Matlab, embedded in a GUI application, or used in batch mode to generate graphical hardcopy, eg in a web application server. Many raster a

Re: Sending cookies with python. When download with python

2007-06-05 Thread Yongjian Xu
yes. urllib2 has Request class that compose html headers (dict object) into a request object where you can put Cookie: header into it. Also, there are a few Cookie related modules you can use too. An example using urllib2 can be something like this: def myrequest(url): req = urllib2.Request(ur

Re: itertools.groupby

2007-06-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On May 27, 7:50 pm, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The groupby itertool came-out in Py2.4 and has had remarkable > > success (people seem to get what it does and like using it, and > > there have been no bug reports or reports of usability problems). > >

Re: Who uses Python?

2007-06-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
walterbyrd wrote: > On Jun 5, 3:01 am, Maria R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I tend to agree with some earlier poster that if you use Python you > > are, in a sense, a programmer :o) > > > > Yes, in a sense. But, in another sense, that is sort of like saying > that people who post on message board

Re: Who uses Python?

2007-06-05 Thread walterbyrd
On Jun 5, 3:01 am, Maria R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tend to agree with some earlier poster that if you use Python you > are, in a sense, a programmer :o) > Yes, in a sense. But, in another sense, that is sort of like saying that people who post on message boards are "writers." I should have

Re: itertools.groupby

2007-06-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 27, 7:50 pm, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The groupby itertool came-out in Py2.4 and has had remarkable > success (people seem to get what it does and like using it, and > there have been no bug reports or reports of usability problems). With due respect, I disagree. Bug

Tkinter, tkMessagebox and overrideredirect

2007-06-05 Thread marcoberi
Hi everybody. I have this code snippet that shows a window without a titlebar (using overrideredirect) and two buttons on it: one quits and the other one brings up a simple tkMessageBox. On Windows (any flavour) the tkMessagebox brings up over the underlying window. On Linux (apparently any flavou

Sending cookies with python. When download with python

2007-06-05 Thread moishyyehuda
I need to download files off a password protected website. So if I try to download files off the site with python I will be blocked. Is there anyway to send cookies with python. So I will be authenticated. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: otsu threshold in python

2007-06-05 Thread Hyuga
On Jun 5, 10:19 am, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hy guys. > I'd like to ask you for a favour. > I tried several times to implement the otsu threshold filter in > python. but I failed every time. I found the soucre code i n Java from > the ImageJ project but I never worked in Java and there h

Re: Beginning Python

2007-06-05 Thread Michael Bentley
On Jun 5, 2007, at 9:29 AM, abhiee wrote: > Hello , I have just begun learning python...and I'm loving it...Just > wanted to ask you that how much time would it take me to learn python > completely and which languages should i learn alongwith python to be a > good professional programmer?...Now i

Re: Beginning Python

2007-06-05 Thread kyosohma
On Jun 5, 9:29 am, abhiee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello , I have just begun learning python...and I'm loving it...Just > wanted to ask you that how much time would it take me to learn python > completely and which languages should i learn alongwith python to be a > good professional programmer

Re: *Naming Conventions*

2007-06-05 Thread Ninereeds
Google Groups appears to have thrown away my original reply, so sorry if this appears twice... On Jun 4, 9:51 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 'i' and 'j' are the canonical names for for loops indices in languages > that don't support proper iteration over a sequence. Using th

RE: Please help on Binary file manipulation

2007-06-05 Thread Looney, James B
Pieter, I've found when I have questions like this, that thinking about how I'd do it in C/C++, then searching on some of those key words leads me to a Python equivalent solution, or at least heading down the right path. In this case, I believe you'll find the "file" module helpfull. You can rea

Re: Basic Auth for simple web server

2007-06-05 Thread Michele Simionato
On Jun 5, 4:28 pm, Marco Aloisio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I'm a Python newbie; > I have to write a simple webserver, and I need to > implement a basic authentication as specified in the RFC2617. > I wonder if there is a Python library for doing that. > > Thanks! > > -- > Marco Aloisio Hav

Re: *args and **kwargs

2007-06-05 Thread BartlebyScrivener
On Jun 5, 7:31 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > JonathanB wrote: > > Ok, this is probably definitely a newbie question, but I have looked > > all over the Python library reference material and tutorials which I > > can find online and I cannot find a clear definition of what thes

Re: subprocess leaves child living

2007-06-05 Thread Thomas Dybdahl Ahle
Den Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:06:15 -0700 skrev Rob Wolfe: > Thomas Dybdahl Ahle wrote: > >> Problem is - I can't do that when I get killed. Isn't it possible to >> open processes in such a way like terminals? If I kill the terminal, >> everything open in it will die too. > > On POSIX platform you can

Re: Python 2.5.1 broken os.stat module

2007-06-05 Thread Joe Salmeri
> But that perspective is not directly relevant to *your* topic line. When > you make a claim that os.stat is 'broken' and bugged, you are making a > claim about the *programmer* experience -- in particular, experiencing a > discrepancy between performance and reasonable expectation based on the >

Re: *Naming Conventions*

2007-06-05 Thread Michael Hoffman
Neil Cerutti wrote: > I find i and j preferable to overly generic terms like "item." Well, I probably wouldn't use "item" in a real example, unless it were for a truly generic function designed to act on all sequences. -- Michael Hoffman -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Logging: how to suppress default output when adding handlers?

2007-06-05 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Jun 5, 2:44 pm, Chris Shenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am setting up handlers to log DEBUG and above to a rotating file and > ERROR and above to console. But if any of my code calls a logger > (e.g.,logging.error("foo")) before I setup my handlers, thelogging > system will create a defaul

Beginning Python

2007-06-05 Thread abhiee
Hello , I have just begun learning python...and I'm loving it...Just wanted to ask you that how much time would it take me to learn python completely and which languages should i learn alongwith python to be a good professional programmer?...Now i only know C thanx in advance! -- http://mail.

Basic Auth for simple web server

2007-06-05 Thread Marco Aloisio
Hi, I'm a Python newbie; I have to write a simple webserver, and I need to implement a basic authentication as specified in the RFC2617. I wonder if there is a Python library for doing that. Thanks! -- Marco Aloisio -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

otsu threshold in python

2007-06-05 Thread azrael
Hy guys. I'd like to ask you for a favour. I tried several times to implement the otsu threshold filter in python. but I failed every time. I found the soucre code i n Java from the ImageJ project but I never worked in Java and there have been used some built in Java functions which I don't know ho

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