Re: Is inifinite loop not a good practice?

Alvin A. Delagon wrote: > Greetings, > > I have to write a python script that would continously monitor and > process a queue database. Once the script sees an unprocessed record it > will create a thread to process it otherwise it will do nothing. I've > been planning to do an infinite loop wi

Re: How many web framework for python ?

Bruno, >In fact, there are actually too much *good* python web frameworks. I tended to share that opinion, just because there are more web frameworks then keywords in Python. But we should stop thinking of this as a bug; it is a feature. Because everyone and his girlfriend creates an own web fra

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

>>OK, but then we should change , >>which starts with "Python is an interpreted, interactive, >>object-oriented programming language." I second this motion. Even tried to persuade the site maintainer before. We should really, really change it. The perceived spee

Is inifinite loop not a good practice?

Greetings, I have to write a python script that would continously monitor and process a queue database. Once the script sees an unprocessed record it will create a thread to process it otherwise it will do nothing. I've been planning to do an infinite loop within the script to do this but I've

Re: number ranges (was Re: Matlab page on scipy wiki)

Tim Hochberg wrote: > Colin J. Williams wrote: > > >> > >>It would be good if the range and slice could be merged in some way, > >>although the extended slice is rather complicated - I don't understand it. > >> > >> The semantics for an extended slicing are as follows. The primary > >> must ev

why does close() fail miserably on popen with exit code -1 ?!

i ran onto this weirdness today: seems like close() on popen-ed (pseudo)file fails miserably with exception instead of returning exit code, when said exit code is -1. here is the simplest example (under Windows): >>> print popen('exit 1').close() 1 >>> print popen('exit -1').close() Traceback (mo

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Quoth Alexander Schmolck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: | "Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... |> the only even remotely formal definition I've ever seen is "language with |> designed to script an existing application, with limited support for handling |> its own state". | |> Early Tcl and JavaSc

Re: Mac OS X Installation Problem

wrote: ... > But this begs the question, how do we upgrade our Python installations if OS X > needs a certain version? Do we leave the pre-installed version alone and run a > second Python installation? I suppose that the various package installers > would know how to do that, right? Yes, and

Re: Mac OS X Installation Problem

wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: > > >Edit a ~/.bashrc file to add /usr/local/bin to your PATH. > > Hi Alex, > > Easier said than done for a non-unix expert. Correct me if I am wrong. Bash > looks at the contents of the PATH variable to decided which directories it > should sc

Re: number ranges (was Re: Matlab page on scipy wiki)

John Zenger wrote: > I strongly agree that Python should promote range or xrange to syntax. > I favor [0..10] rather than [0:10] because 0..10 is inherently easier to > understand. Every maths text I have read uses the ".." notation to show > ranges; Math texts typically use a normal ellipsi

Re: number ranges (was Re: Matlab page on scipy wiki)

Colin J. Williams wrote: > Bryan Cole wrote: > >>> >>> First, I think the range() function in python is ugly to begin with. >>> Why can't python just support range notation directly like 'for a in >>> 0:10'. Or with 0..10 or 0...10 syntax. That seems to make a lot more >>> sense to me tha

Re: Open Relay Test

Thanks guys for the info..the DSBL client app is exactly what I need..unfortunately the app I'm writing will be for Windows (the only client I saw was for Linux). Do you know if there's a Windows command line port? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Mac OS X Installation Problem

Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It's not considered a good idea to trash Apple system files. It's likely >that system tools that depend on Python (CoreImage scripting comes to >mind) are now broken and the only way to fix this is to reinstall the OS. Thanks for the heads up. I thought th

Re: Format file size for printing

I know of no built-in way, but you could probably code this in a few lines using print "%.1f" and so on. (Some of us, by the way, are in the camp that believes a kilobyte is 1024 bytes, not 1000, so 103803 bytes for us is about 101.4 kilobytes). abcd wrote: > is there a built-in way of printing

Re: Mac OS X Installation Problem

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: >Edit a ~/.bashrc file to add /usr/local/bin to your PATH. Hi Alex, Easier said than done for a non-unix expert. Correct me if I am wrong. Bash looks at the contents of the PATH variable to decided which directories it should scan when parsing a command

Re: Komodo - Will it Lock Me In?

"Peter Decker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >You should take a look at Dabo, Yes, I have Dabo installed on my system. I made a small test app, but was unable to deploy it. I was getting an error from py2exe, I think, about how my wxPython installation was not correct. This is the kind of thing I

Re: Komodo - Will it Lock Me In?

Trent Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Perhaps you are thinking of some of the C/C++ IDEs (like Visual Studio >on Windows and Xcode on the Mac) Hi Trent, Ravi, Actually, I had two things in mind: 1) HTML editors - I made a website using Yahoo Sitebuilder. It's a pretty good tool, but I didn't

Re: Komodo - Will it Lock Me In?

On 2/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My goal was to test out Python by writing a simple GUI app and then deploying > it to Mac OS X and Windows XP. Using a product such as RealBasic, a totally > green newbie could accomplish this in a few minutes.. So, I guess my main > quest

Re: Komodo - Will it Lock Me In?

"Ravi Teja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Matt, in most cases, installing packages in Python is about as easy as >it gets. Yes, it is easy, sort-of. I have installed many, many packages so far. My point is that with a polished IDE, you don't have to go through all of this. You download an instal

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Alexander Schmolck wrote: > My point was that Guido probably (and fortunately!) was unaware of the extent > to which you can have both dynamism and speed any my point was that chosing to ignore something doesn't mean that you're ignorant. (but since you keep repeating this nonsense, it's clear t

New Module: CommandLoop

This is something I've been working on for a bit, and I think it is more or less ready to bring up on this list. I'd like to add a module (though probably not for 2.5). Before you ask, this module is _not_ compatible with cmd.py, as it is command oriented, whereas cmd.py is line oriented. Anyway,

Re: MySQLDB - parameterised SQL - "TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting"

Hi Dennis - Thanks for your help with this Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On 19 Feb 2006 16:26:15 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the > following in comp.lang.python: > > > Hi - I have written some python to insert a row into a table using > > MySQLDB. I have never before written SQL/Python us

Eric3 Help/Tutorial

Does anyone know of Help docs/tutorials that explain Eric3's plethora of features? http://www.die-offenbachs.de/detlev/eric3.html Thanks, Julius -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: editor for Python on Linux

gedit -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: Which is faster? (if not b in m) or (if m.count(b) > 0)

Jean-Paul Calderone wrote: > Not since Python 2.4: > > >>> dis.dis(lambda: x not in y) > 1 0 LOAD_GLOBAL 0 (x) > 3 LOAD_GLOBAL 1 (y) > 6 COMPARE_OP 7 (not in) > 9 RETURN_VALUE > >

Re: commenting out blocks of code

Atanas Banov: > here is something you both seems to have not considered: imagine you > make decision if ^Q has to comment or uncomment based on the 1st line > and not on each line individually in the block. When first implementing Ctrl+Q, this looked to have similar advantages and disadvantag

RE: Which is faster? (if not b in m) or (if m.count(b) > 0)

On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:08:48 +1100, "Delaney, Timothy \(Tim\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Farel wrote: > >> Tim, Are you saying that: >> not (b in m) >> is faster than: >> b not in m > >On the contrary. `not (b in m)` requires negating the result of `b in m` >(via an additional bytecode

Re: Req. for module style/organization

RayS wrote: > I've begun a Python module to provide a complete interface to the > Meade LX200 command set, and have searched for a style/development > guide for Python Lib/site-packages type modules, but only saw guides > for C-modules. I realize that I need to make some changes to follow > http:/

Re: SPE IDE videos and more...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm happy to spread the word about showmedo.com, an excellent > collection of python programming videos. > >>From the website > http://showmedo.com/videoListPage?listKey=TheBigPythonList: The server response under: http://showmedo.com/videoListPage?listKey=TheBigPyt

MySQLDB - parameterised SQL - "TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting"

Hi - I have written some python to insert a row into a table using MySQLDB. I have never before written SQL/Python using embedded parameters in the SQL and I'm having some difficulties. Could someone point me in the right direction please ? The python looks like this : import MySQLdb import MySQL

Re: number ranges (was Re: Matlab page on scipy wiki)

Colin J. Williams wrote: >> >>It would be good if the range and slice could be merged in some way, >>although the extended slice is rather complicated - I don't understand it. >> >> The semantics for an extended slicing are as follows. The primary >> must evaluate to a mapping object, and it i

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Ho, really ? How many applications using Python as scripting language ? http://wiki.python.org/moin/AppsWithPythonScripting lists many, but it's obviously woefully incomplete -- e.g., it's missing Civilization IV, a very popular, major new ga

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DH a écrit : > (snip) > > > > It is by design. Python is dynamically typed. It is essentially an > > interpreted scripting language like javascript or ruby or perl, > > It's not a "scripting" language, and it's not interpreted. OK, but then we s

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:02:16 -0800, Paul Boddie wrote: > > >> Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > > >> > Ok, then what do you think happens to 'machine' code ? > >> > > >> > "interpreted" usually means "no compilation, all parsing etc > >> > redone at eac

RE: Which is faster? (if not b in m) or (if m.count(b) > 0)

Farel wrote: > Tim, Are you saying that: > not (b in m) > is faster than: > b not in m On the contrary. `not (b in m)` requires negating the result of `b in m` (via an additional bytecode operation). `b not in m` doesn't. However, the difference in performance is minimal, as testing usin

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

>> Of course it is. What do you think happens to the bytecode? > Ok, then what do you think happens to 'machine' code ? I believe that on modern CISC processors the human level 'machine code' is interpreted by subroutines written in the actual machine code usually called 'microcode'. tjr

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

"Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Alexander Schmolck wrote: > > > You might want to argue about whether scriping language is a meaningful and > > useful concept, but it's really hard to see how you could talk about > > "scripting > > languages" without including python. > > define "

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By that logic, all languages are interpreted. What do you think happens to > the machinecode? Interpreted to transistors state by an internal mapping in the CPU opcode ==> input configuration. -- Valentino Volonghi aka Dialtone Now Running MacOSX 10.

Re: Countdown Timer

Thank you! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:02:16 -0800, Paul Boddie wrote: > Torsten Bronger wrote: >> Hallöchen! >> >> Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > >> > Ok, then what do you think happens to 'machine' code ? >> > >> > "interpreted" usually means "no compilation, all parsing etc >> > redone at

Re: editor for Python on Linux

Mladen Adamovic wrote: > Hi! > > I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python > programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. My personal favorite is Kate (comes with KDE). - Duck -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Format file size for printing

is there a built-in way of printing the size of a file nicely? So if the file size is 103803 bytes it prints out like: 103.8K or 0.1MB something liek that? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Making mouse wheel work with pmw ScrolledCanvas widget

This looks like it has nothing to do with Pmw (Mega widgets) but is really a basic Tkinter problem. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

"Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Alexander Schmolck wrote: > > > What's far more interesting to me, however, is that I think there a good > > reasons to suspect python's slowness is more of a feature than a flaw: I'd > > not > > be suprised if on the whole it greatly increases progr

Re: editor for Python on Linux

Mladen Adamovic enlightened us with: > I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python > programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. I use gvim (if I have X) and vim (if I don't). The only negative thing about it, is its learning curve ;-) Sybren -- The problem with

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:26:20 +, Alexander Schmolck wrote: > Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> DH a écrit : >> (snip) >> > It is by design. Python is dynamically typed. It is essentially an >> > interpreted scripting language like javascript or ruby or perl, >> >> >> It's

Re: editor for Python on Linux

Rene Pijlman wrote: > Sriram Krishnan: > >>Check out http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors. > > > This page can't be taken seriously. vi is not listed. I hope your key is broken; I wouldn't wish old-school vi on my worst enemy. Fortunately that page lists the wonderful Vim instead, so s

Re: How many web framework for python ?

Ville Vainio enlightened us with: > When you write your own framework, you are helping yourself. True. And if that doesn't have a negative effect on others (which I think it doesn't) there is nothing wrong with that. > If you use an existing framework and possibly contribute patches to > it, you

Re: number ranges (was Re: Matlab page on scipy wiki)

Colin J. Williams wrote: > Bryan Cole wrote: > >>> >>> First, I think the range() function in python is ugly to begin with. >>> Why can't python just support range notation directly like 'for a in >>> 0:10'. Or with 0..10 or 0...10 syntax. That seems to make a lot more >>> sense to me tha

Re: editor for Python on Linux

Rene Pijlman wrote: > Mladen Adamovic: > >>I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python >>programs. > > > vi > Scite is a good editor. It is available for both Windows and Linux. Boa-Constructor is an IDE rather than an editor. Although it focuses on wxPython, it has

Re: editor for Python on Linux

Sriram Krishnan: >Check out http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors. This page can't be taken seriously. vi is not listed. -- René Pijlman -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Torsten Bronger wrote: > Hallöchen! > > Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Ok, then what do you think happens to 'machine' code ? > > > > "interpreted" usually means "no compilation, all parsing etc > > redone at each execution", which is not the case with a > > bytecode/vm bas

Re: editor for Python on Linux

F. Petitjean: >Rene Pijlman: >> vi > >I beg to disagree :-) Use ed >"Ed is the standard text editor." >http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html That was 1991. This is 2006. -- René Pijlman -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: number ranges (was Re: Matlab page on scipy wiki)

Bryan Cole wrote: >> >> >>First, I think the range() function in python is ugly to begin with. >>Why can't python just support range notation directly like 'for a in >>0:10'. Or with 0..10 or 0...10 syntax. That seems to make a lot more >>sense to me than having to call a named function.

Re: editor for Python on Linux

SPE: http://pythonide.stani.be I use it on Ubuntu. For a quick start, view: http://showmedo.com/videoListPage?listKey=PythonDevelopmentWithSPE Stani -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: editor for Python on Linux

Le Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:33:59 +0100, Rene Pijlman a écrit : > Mladen Adamovic: >>I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python >>programs. > > vi I beg to disagree :-) Use ed "Ed is the standard text editor." http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html -- http://mail.python.

Re: editor for Python on Linux

Mladen Adamovic wrote: > Hi! > > I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python > programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. > Nothing is perfect ... but try SciTE and Eric http://www.die-offenbachs.de/detlev/eric3.html --Armin http://www.steinhoff-automation.com

Re: Python multithreading on cluster system? Embedding python in PVM?

abhinav wrote: > Hi guys.I have read that one cannot perform true multithreading in > python due to global interpreter lock mechanism.Suppose i have to > implement a crawler on a say cluster system like clusterknoppix so that > i can use parallel virtual machine (PVM)for programming in > multiproce

Re: editor for Python on Linux

Mladen Adamovic wrote: > Hi! > > I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python > programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. > Check out http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors. I personally use Emacs -- Sriram -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python

Re: editor for Python on Linux

# I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python # programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect. It depends on what you need; what don't you like about JEdit? What do you think a good editor or IDE should provide? -- Jonathan Daugherty http://www.parsed.org -- ht

Re: editor for Python on Linux

Mladen Adamovic: >I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python >programs. vi -- René Pijlman -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Countdown Timer

take a look at the time module. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Hallöchen! Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Alexander Schmolck a écrit : > >> Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> [...] >>> >>> It's not a "scripting" language, and it's not interpreted. >> >> Of course it is. What do you think happens to the bytecode? > > Ok,

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Great, thank you and everyone for this nice discussion. Michael -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Another stupid newbie question

"Do yourself a HUGE favour and read this before posting any more questions to comp.lang.python. Trust me, you really will thank us. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html " I find that webpage highly insulting, and so should you. It is treating you like a small child, who needs to be

Countdown Timer

Could someone tell me what modules I should look at in the Python Manual to create a countdown timer that counts the years, days, hours, minutes, and seconds to a given day? Thanks in advance! I'm fairly new to the language, so please put it in newbie terms. I only know the basics. -- http://m

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's not a "scripting" language, and it's not interpreted. http://www.python.org/doc/faq/general.html#what-is-python "Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming language." -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-l

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Alexander Schmolck a écrit : > Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>DH a écrit : >>(snip) >> >>>It is by design. Python is dynamically typed. It is essentially an >>>interpreted scripting language like javascript or ruby or perl, >> >> >>It's not a "scripting" language, and it's

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Alexander Schmolck wrote: > You might want to argue about whether scriping language is a meaningful and > useful concept, but it's really hard to see how you could talk about > "scripting > languages" without including python. define "scripting language". the only even remotely formal definitio

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Great, thanks for a very complete answer. michael -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: general coding issues - coding style...

calmar a écrit : > Hi all, > > since I'm just a 'handicraft'/beginner or so, > > could anybody provide me with some (rough) hints, about how to enhance the > code > here: > > http://calmar.ws/tmp/cal.html 1/ learn OO and get rid of globals. 2/ use dict or list based dispatch instead of long if

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Alexander Schmolck wrote: > What's far more interesting to me, however, is that I think there a good > reasons to suspect python's slowness is more of a feature than a flaw: I'd not > be suprised if on the whole it greatly increases programmer productivity and > results in clearer and more uniform

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Cool, thank you. That's the answer I was looking for :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > DH a écrit : > (snip) > > It is by design. Python is dynamically typed. It is essentially an > > interpreted scripting language like javascript or ruby or perl, > > > It's not a "scripting" language, and it's not interpreted. Of course it is. Wh

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi, I've been thinking about Python vs. Lisp. I've been learning > Python the past few months and like it very much. A few years ago I > had an AI class where we had to use Lisp, and I absolutely hated it, > having learned C++ a few years prior. They didn't teach Lis

Req. for module style/organization

I've begun a Python module to provide a complete interface to the Meade LX200 command set, and have searched for a style/development guide for Python Lib/site-packages type modules, but only saw guides for C-modules. I realize that I need to make some changes to follow http://www.python.org/doc

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

DH a écrit : (snip) > > It is by design. Python is dynamically typed. It is essentially an > interpreted scripting language like javascript or ruby or perl, It's not a "scripting" language, and it's not interpreted. > although > python fans will be quick to tell you python is compiled to byte

Re: How many web framework for python ?

Sybren Stuvel wrote: > Why forget it? I've written my own web framework > (http://www.unrealtower.org/) and it works great! It was a good Some reasons: - Waste. When you write your own framework, you are helping yourself. If you use an existing framework and possibly contribute patches to it, yo

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 00:54:22 -0500 "Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In order to be that fast, some of the dynamism of > intepreted Lisp must be given up. In particular object > code is not list data. Python with type-dynamism > eliminated can also be translated to decent C/C++ and the

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Roy Smith wrote: > DH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -python has true closures (although nothing like ruby's blocks) > > What is a "true closure"? Or, maybe what I'm asking is what kind of > closure wouldn't be a true closure? Is there some kind of ersatz closure > other language try to pass off

[ANN] ConfigObj 4.2.0

`ConfigObj 4.2.0 `_ is now available. The main improvements are *full* Unicode support,a s well as the addition of the 'convenience' `Section Methods `_ * *as_bool* * *as_int* * *

Re: ANN: FreeImagePy 1.2.2

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:34:18 -0500 Andrew Gwozdziewycz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Knowing some details about PIL and as good as no details > > about FreeImage, I would like in this context to become > > enlightened by the answer to the question, when does it > > make sense to use FreeImage inst

[ANN] SPE IDE videos and more...

I'm happy to spread the word about showmedo.com, an excellent collection of python programming videos. >From the website http://showmedo.com/videoListPage?listKey=TheBigPythonList: """Want to learn how to use some of the best Python programming tools out there, including the supercharged IPython

Re: define loop statement?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Isaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . . . >Admiration wins out over revulsion. ;-) >Thanks, >Alan Isaac > >PS Here's the motivation. Python closely resembles pseudocode. With >a very little

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >DH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -python has true closures (although nothing like ruby's blocks) > >What is a "true closure"? Or, maybe what I'm asking is what kind of >closure wouldn't be a true closure? Is there some kind o

Re: How many web framework for python ?

Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > > There are very good web framework for java and ruby , > > Is there one for python ? > > In fact, there are actually too much *good* python web frameworks. Dear Mr. BDFL, there are too many good web frameworks nowadays. Please eliminate th

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

"Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In learning Python I've read more about Lisp than when I was actually > > trying to learn it, and it seems that the two languages have lots of > > similarities: > > > > http://www.norvig.

Re: Should we still be learning this?

John Zenger wrote: > Don't overly concern yourself with your course being 100% up to date. > When learning programming, the concepts are what is important, not the > syntax or libraries you happen to be using. Even if they were to teach > you the latest and greatest features of 2.4.2, that woul

Re: Should we still be learning this?

Felipe Almeida Lessa wrote: > Em Sáb, 2006-02-18 às 15:13 +0200, Max escreveu: > >>>I wonder if they need some updating. >>> >> >>And so does Dive Into Python (our textbook, diveintopython.org) which >>has the same deficiencies in its outline. > > > Are they being *paid* for teaching? Then they

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Luis M. González>[Shed-Skin] ... but so far it looks great (only one developer though..).< Two developers, I am there too :-) I think people aren't much interested so far because there aren't good ways to link/join/use SSPython compied code from CPython code. A good solution is probably to: - Dev

Re: How many web framework for python ?

Bruno Desthuilliers enlightened us with: >> I want to write a web framework for python based on mod_python as >> my course homework , could you give some advise ? > > Yes : forget it. Why forget it? I've written my own web framework (http://www.unrealtower.org/) and it works great! It was a good l

Python multithreading on cluster system? Embedding python in PVM?

Hi guys.I have read that one cannot perform true multithreading in python due to global interpreter lock mechanism.Suppose i have to implement a crawler on a say cluster system like clusterknoppix so that i can use parallel virtual machine (PVM)for programming in multiprocessor environment or say o

Re: define loop statement?

"Benji York" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Here's a flagrant hack: Admiration wins out over revulsion. ;-) Thanks, Alan Isaac PS Here's the motivation. Python closely resembles pseudocode. With a very little LaTeX hacking, it is often possible to write algorith

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

>IMO, it's the lack of competing implementations. I beg to differ in this point. There are other implementations, but they are not called "python" and they are not a 100% python in syntax and features. For example, Boo is 95% python syntax wise, but statically typed. This fundamental difference ma

Re: 2-dimensional data structures

anthonyberet wrote: > I want to work on a sudoku brute-forcer, just for fun. >... > Thanks for the advice (to everyone in the thread). > I think I will go with nested lists. > However, I am running into a conceptual problem. > My approach will be firstly to remove all the impossible digits for a >

Re: Any Tkinker based rich text widget?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am using the standard python GUI Tkinter as my program's main > interface. Although I know wxPython has some widget to support rich > text widget, but I do not have time to shift to wx series. Does > anyone know any Tkinter based widget that support: > > 1. Blod, I

Re: Get parameters from URL using CGI

import cgi import cgitb; cgitb.enable() # Optional; for debugging only print "Content-Type: text/html" print f = cgi.FieldStorage() for i in f.keys(): print "",i,":",f[i].value abcd wrote: > i want to create a CGI script which simply prints out values given via > the URL (such as when a GE

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Roy Smith wrote: > I dread the day that competing Python implementations spring up. where were you in 1997? http://www.python.org/workshops/1997-10/proceedings/hugunin.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python vs. Lisp -- please explain

Hallöchen! Roy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] > > It's been a while since I've dabbled in lisp, but my recollection > is that the plethora of different implementations has also meant > that portability is a fantasy. > > I dread the day that competing Python implementations spring up.

Re: How many web framework for python ?

Bo Yang a écrit : > Hello everybody , > I am a student major in software engeering . > I need to do something for my course . > > There are very good web framework for java and ruby , > Is there one for python ? In fact, there are actually too much *good* python web frameworks. > I want to write

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