Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? (e.g. 'modulescope'or 'module' better?)

Terry Reedy wrote: > "Paolino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>I don't think the global keyword is useful actually. >>What's so special in a module nemespace to be priviledged like that. > > > The specialness of globals and locals was

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

"gene tani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://martinfowler.com/bliki/CollectionClosureMethod.html > http://onestepback.org/index.cgi/Tech/Ruby/PythonAndRuby.rdoc Thanks, the way Ruby passes closure arguments to various of its library builtins is cute. PEP 343 adds something sort of comparable

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

(copied from "Fat/Lazy" thread http://martinfowler.com/bliki/CollectionClosureMethod.html http://onestepback.org/index.cgi/Tech/Ruby/PythonAndRuby.rdoc -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Berkely DB – many writers, many readers

Eric S. Johansson wrote: > Andy Leszczynski wrote: > >> >> I need to now option I open the Berkley DB (both db and env) to have >> configuration for multiple writers and multiple readers. Via multiple >> processes and multiple threads. No trx needed. > > > the simple answer is you can't. bd

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

"Kay Schluehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The whole ML family ( including OCaml ) and languages like Haskell > based on a Hindley-Milnor type system clearly make a difference. I > would say that those languages are also cutting edge in language theory > research. It should be definitely interest

Re: Proposed new collection methods

Robert Kern wrote: > Jeff Schwab wrote: >> Why are you retarded? Isn't the above code O(n)? >> >> Forgive me for not understanding, I'm still awfully new to Python >> (having come from Perl & C++), and I didn't see an explanation in the >> FAQ. > (s for s in iter(self) is test(s)) is a generato

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

Paul Rubin wrote: > Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It didn't say what they left PHP, Perl and Python for (if you are to > > even believe their findings). > > > > PHP has been losing programmers in droves... to Ruby on Rails, but I'm > > not sure how that is bad news for scripting-langu

Re: Proposed new collection methods

Robert Kern wrote: > (s for s in iter(self) is test(s)) is a generator expression. It is > roughly equivalent to > > def g(self, test=lambda x: True): > for s in iter(self): > if test(s): > yield s > > Now, if I were to do > > item = g(self, test).next() > > the generato

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

Paul Rubin wrote: > Joseph Garvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>>That's the second time in one or two days that I've heard Ruby on >>>Rails mentioned. Can anyone here post a paragraph or two description? >>>I sort of know what Ruby is, a very OOP-ified Perl-resemblant >>>language, that's also i

Re: Fat and happy Pythonistas (was Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? ...)

Quoth Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: | "John Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... |> It seems to be the concensus on this group anyway: declarative typing |> does not give enough improvement in program correctness to override |> more concise programs and TDD. That may, of course, be wishful |> t

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

Joseph Garvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >That's the second time in one or two days that I've heard Ruby on > >Rails mentioned. Can anyone here post a paragraph or two description? > >I sort of know what Ruby is, a very OOP-ified Perl-resemblant > >language, that's also implemented only as an i

Re: Proposed new collection methods

Jeff Schwab wrote: > Robert Kern wrote: > >>Robert Kern wrote: >> >>>Christopher Subich wrote: >>> Dear Zeus no. Find can be defined as: def find(self, test=lambda x:1): try: item = (s for s in iter(self) if test(s)).next() except StopIteration: raise Val

Re: Proposed new collection methods

Robert Kern wrote: > Robert Kern wrote: > >> Christopher Subich wrote: >> >> >>> Dear Zeus no. Find can be defined as: >>> def find(self, test=lambda x:1): >>>try: >>> item = (s for s in iter(self) if test(s)).next() >>>except StopIteration: >>> raise ValueError('No matching i

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

Paul Rubin wrote: >Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>It didn't say what they left PHP, Perl and Python for (if you are to >>even believe their findings). >> >>PHP has been losing programmers in droves... to Ruby on Rails, but I'm >>not sure how that is bad news for scripting-language

Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? (e.g. 'modulescope'or 'module' better?)

"Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Actually, it is the reinvention of classes: > > class enclosing(object): > def __init__(self): > self.var = 2 > def enclosed(self): > self.var = 4 Actually, having to wrap classes around operation as simple as variable binding is

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It didn't say what they left PHP, Perl and Python for (if you are to > even believe their findings). > > PHP has been losing programmers in droves... to Ruby on Rails, but I'm > not sure how that is bad news for scripting-language fans. That's the second

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Hi, Does anyone know of a python source parser program which can return the parsed source file as a coherent dom-like data structure? I'm playing around with ast, and the output of ast.tolist(), but it's got a lot of chaff, and would need a lot of hacking to break it down to simple data structure

Re: Fat and happy Pythonistas (was Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? ...)

Mike Meyer wrote: > "John Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>"Mike Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >>>I find it hilarious that this arrived at my news server the same day >>>that Peter Hansens rant (look for the subject "Syntax error after >>>upgrading to Python 2.4") about Python chan

Re: Proposed new collection methods

Robert Kern wrote: > Christopher Subich wrote: > > >>Dear Zeus no. Find can be defined as: >>def find(self, test=lambda x:1): >>try: >> item = (s for s in iter(self) if test(s)).next() >>except StopIteration: >> raise ValueError('No matching items in list') > > I would prefe

Re: Proposed new collection methods

Christopher Subich wrote: > Dear Zeus no. Find can be defined as: > def find(self, test=lambda x:1): > try: >item = (s for s in iter(self) if test(s)).next() > except StopIteration: >raise ValueError('No matching items in list') I would prefer that a find() operation retu

Re: Get directory from http web site

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Re: Fat and happy Pythonistas (was Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? ...)

Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer wrote: >> "John Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>The world is moving on, in ways that I think you're not seeing. >>>And Python is standing still in many of those same ways. >> I find it hilarious that this arrived at my news server the same

Re: Proposed new collection methods

Mike Meyer wrote: > Another thread pointed out a couple of methods that would be nice to > have on Python collections: find and inject. These are taken from > http://martinfowler.com/bliki/CollectionClosureMethod.html >. > > find can be defined as: > > def find(self, test = None): >

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The only way ISPs will find out that Python is popular is if potential > customers tell them they need it. So if they say no, be *sure* and > tell them you won't be using them because of that. I think the issue is low cost web hosts, not ISP's. PHP is much

Re: SWIG again

Jerry He wrote: >>Robert Kern >>Please don't make a new thread every time you post. > > sorry, I chose the digest mode when I signed up, and I > have no idea how to reply, nor any idea how to change > to the normal mode where I get individual emails so I > can actually just hit the reply button in

Re: Fat and happy Pythonistas (was Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? ...)

"Mike Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "John Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> However. I see nothing in the existing Python 3000 PEP that does >> anything other than inspire a yawn. Sure, it's a bunch of cleanup, and >> some of it is definitely needed. > > A

Re: Does FTPLIB have a 'local change directory' ?

On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 01:28:31 GMT, "python newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to be able to first > ftplib.lcd( "c:\myfiles\morefiles" ) > and then just > storbinary( picture.gif .. ). > But the python doc doesn't show any LCD. Try os.chdir. HTH, Dan -- Dan Sommers

Re: Wheel-reinvention with Python

Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a free language you consider successful? I can't think of any > that are a lot more (i.e. - an order of magnitude) successful than > Python that aren't derived from C. SQL > Have you noticed that languages with really cool features aren't very > p

Re: Does FTPLIB have a 'local change directory' ?

Yes, I tried using just the filename itself in using storbinary, but it returned some kind of error, but your suggestion to use os.chdir is so obvious I'm not sure why I didn't think of that. Thanks for the email Steve On 8/6/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you want to change

Re: Wheel-reinvention with Python

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:59:28 -0400, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a free language you consider successful? I can't think of any > that are a lot more (i.e. - an order of magnitude) successful than > Python that aren't derived from C. How about Postscript? (I believe that Posts

Re: Fat and happy Pythonistas (was Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? ...)

"John Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Mike Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >>> What I want to see in Python 3000 is an AST based language >>> that lets the editors do the pretty printing. Do you want automatic >>> indenting or would you prefer end statements? It's an editor formatt

Re: Does FTPLIB have a 'local change directory' ?

If you want to change the working directory of a Python program, then use os.chdir() for that purpose. That's what 'lcd' does in ftp client software. It doesn't send a remote command of any kind. Or, when you call the storbinary method, give the os.path.basename() of the file you are storing, ins

Re: Does FTPLIB have a 'local change directory' ?

python newbie wrote: > Hi, first I wanted to say that: > > I have finally been able to ftp a file in my python app - however, it > works like this: > > When you use storbinary and hand it a full path > "c:\myfiles\morefiles\picture.gif".. > it will find the file on your hard drive, and > th

Does FTPLIB have a 'local change directory' ?

Hi, first I wanted to say that: I have finally been able to ftp a file in my python app - however, it works like this: When you use storbinary and hand it a full path "c:\myfiles\morefiles\picture.gif".. it will find the file on your hard drive, and then upload the file, but on the ftp ser

Re: Some simple performace tests (long)

How much ram does your machine have? the main point is "except when a very large range is used on a memory-starved machine" run x = range(10 ** 6) and look at the memory usage of python.. what happens when you run this program: import time def t(func, num): s = time.time() for x in fun

Re: Fat and happy Pythonistas (was Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? ...)

Mike Meyer wrote: > "John Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>The world is moving on, in ways that I think you're not seeing. >>And Python is standing still in many of those same ways. > > I find it hilarious that this arrived at my news server the same day > that Peter Hansens rant (look for the

Re: Fat and happy Pythonistas (was Re: Replacement for keyword'global' good idea? ...)

"John Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Maybe "fat and happy" wasn't the best choice of words Depends on the reaction you wanted ;-) > However. I see nothing in the existing Python 3000 PEP that does > anything other than inspire a yawn. Sure, it's a bunch of c

Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? (e.g. 'modulescope' or 'module' better?)

Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You can't "fix" this. This code (in some python-like langauge that > isn't python): > > x = 23 > > def fun(): > x = 25 > # Rest of code > > has two possible interpretations. The fix is to add a "local" declaration in "fun": local x = 25 for

Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? (e.g. 'modulescope' or 'module' better?)

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've heard 2 people complain that word 'global' is confusing. > Perhaps 'modulescope' or 'module' would be better? > Am I the first peope to have thought of this and suggested it? > Is this a candidate for Python 3000 yet? It's not

re:SWIG again

> Robert Kern >Please don't make a new thread every time you post. sorry, I chose the digest mode when I signed up, and I have no idea how to reply, nor any idea how to change to the normal mode where I get individual emails so I can actually just hit the reply button instead of copying your name

Re: Syntax error after upgrading to Python 2.4

On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 05:15:22PM -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: > In any case letting developers add new features is part of the price of > getting unpaid bug fixes for free software. But note that PSF does not > make you to upgrade. Here is the current list of possible downloads. > [a mere 8 ver

Re: Generalised String Coercion

"Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> PEP: 349 >> Title: Generalised String Coercion > ... >> Rationale >>Python has had a Unicode string type for some time now but use of >>it is not yet widespread. There is a large amount of Python code >>that

Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? (e.g. 'modulescope'or 'module' better?)

"Paolino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't think the global keyword is useful actually. > What's so special in a module nemespace to be priviledged like that. The specialness of globals and locals was part of Python's original simpl

Re: Fat and happy Pythonistas (was Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? ...)

"John Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However. I see nothing in the existing Python 3000 PEP that does > anything other than inspire a yawn. Sure, it's a bunch of cleanup, and > some of it is definitely needed. Actually, that's pretty much *all* it is. I always figured it was a warning about t

Re: SWIG again

Please don't make a new thread every time you post. Jerry He wrote: > Robert Kern > >>Write a distutils setup.py script to do all of the >>compiling and linking. > > Ok, I wrote the following distutils setup.py script > from distutils.core import setup, Extension > > setup (name = 'example', >

Proposed new collection methods

Another thread pointed out a couple of methods that would be nice to have on Python collections: find and inject. These are taken from http://martinfowler.com/bliki/CollectionClosureMethod.html >. find can be defined as: def find(self, test = None): for item in self: if

SWIG again

Robert Kern >Write a distutils setup.py script to do all of the >compiling and linking. Ok, I wrote the following distutils setup.py script from distutils.core import setup, Extension setup (name = 'example', version = '2.4', ext_modules = [Extension('example', \ ['example.c',

Re: Some simple performace tests (long)

"TPJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "The advantage of xrange() over range() is minimal (since xrange() > still has to create the values when asked for them) except when a very > large range is used on a memory-starved machine or when all of the > range's elements a

Re: Syntax error after upgrading to Python 2.4

"Fernando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I wrote >> I don't see the problem yet. I certainly do not see anything that >> should >> have been affected by the upgrade (was it from 2.3 on XP also?) > Yes. and >> After checking for nonprinting chars, I would shuffle

Re: Fat and happy Pythonistas (was Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? ...)

John Roth wrote: > Another thing that stands out: the explicit versus dynamic typing debate > has moved on from program correctness (which is a wash) to > other areas that explicit (or derived) type information can be used > for. I see this in PyFit: the languages where explicit type information >

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

On Sat, 2005-08-06 at 03:24 -0700, Kay Schluehr wrote: > No good news for scripting-language fans: > > http://www.phpmag.net/itr/news/psecom,id,23284,nodeid,113.html It didn't say what they left PHP, Perl and Python for (if you are to even believe their findings). PHP has been losing programmers

Re: Get directory from http web site

rock69 wrote: > Hi all :) > > I was wondering if there's some neat and easy way to get the entire > contents of a directory at a specific web url address. > > I have the following link: > > http://www.infomedia.it/immagini/riviste/covers/cp > > and as you can see it's just a list containing all

Re: Generalised String Coercion

> PEP: 349 > Title: Generalised String Coercion ... > Rationale >Python has had a Unicode string type for some time now but use of >it is not yet widespread. There is a large amount of Python code >that assumes that string data is represented as str instances. >The long term plan f

Re: Fat and happy Pythonistas (was Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? ...)

On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 11:53:04 -0600, "John Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I want to see in Python 3000 is an AST based language that lets > the editors do the pretty printing. Do you want automatic indenting or > would you prefer end statements? It's an editor formatting option. The > AST n

Re: Sample code to build rfc822 mail message building

"praba kar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I am new to python world. I have pasted my code > which I used it to build rfc822 format mails for When you start a completely new subject, you should start a new thread and not make your new-subject post a reply in

Re: Fat and happy Pythonistas (was Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? ...)

John Roth wrote: > "Peter Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > John Roth wrote: > >> It's not going to happen because the Python community is fat and happy, > >> and is not seeing the competition moving up on the outside. > >> Characteristics > >> that make a gr

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

Do you know anyone who has dropped LAMP for a proprietary Web solution? Or vice versa? Know any sys-admins that have dropped their use of scripting languages for something else? What are the alternatives that are supposedly driving scripting languages out? - I'm unconvinced. -- http://mail.pytho

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Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? (e.g. 'modulescope' or 'module' better?)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm not saying 'modulescope' and 'module' are the only alternatives or > even > the best anyone can come up with. > > 'global' has the connotation of being visible *EVERYWHERE* > where in Python it is just visible in one module's space. > > Can you think of a better alt

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

Kay Schluehr wrote: > No good news for scripting-language fans: > > http://www.phpmag.net/itr/news/psecom,id,23284,nodeid,113.html The study was conducted by Evans Data Corporation. Look here: http://www.evansdata.com/n2/about_us_clients.shtml Do you see the PSF or Larry Wall on the list? Rein

Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? (e.g. 'modulescope' or 'module' better?)

Peter Hansen wrote: > Paolino wrote: > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>def enclosing(): >> var=[] >> var[0]=2 >> def enclosed(): >>var[0]=4 >>which is like saying python is not working >> >>It's ok to mark non locals,but why var=4 is not searched outside and >>var[0]=4 yes? > > > Because "v

Re: minidom xml & non ascii / unicode & files

> so what i understood of all this, is that once you're using unicode > objects you're safe ! > At least as long as you don't use statements or operators that will > implicitely try to convert the unicode object back to bytestring using > your default encoding (ascii) which will most certainly resu

Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? (e.g. 'modulescope' or 'module' better?)

John Roth wrote: > > "Mike Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> So the only way to remove the global statement would be to have some >> way to mark the other interpretation, with say a "local" >> decleration. I thik that would be much worse than "global". For

Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? (e.g. 'modulescope'or 'module' better?)

"Paolino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I've heard 2 people complain that word 'global' is confusing. >> >> Perhaps 'modulescope' or 'module' would be better? >> >> Am I the first peope to have thought of this and suggested it? >> >> Is t

Re: Fat and happy Pythonistas (was Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? ...)

"Peter Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > John Roth wrote: >> It's not going to happen because the Python community is fat and happy, >> and is not seeing the competition moving up on the outside. >> Characteristics >> that make a great language one day make a m

Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? (e.g. 'modulescope' or 'module' better?)

Paolino wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > def enclosing(): > var=[] > var[0]=2 > def enclosed(): > var[0]=4 > which is like saying python is not working > > It's ok to mark non locals,but why var=4 is not searched outside and > var[0]=4 yes? Because "var=4" rebinds the name "var", wh

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've heard 2 people complain that word 'global' is confusing. > > Perhaps 'modulescope' or 'module' would be better? > > Am I the first peope to have thought of this and suggested it? > > Is this a candidate for Python 3000 yet? > > Chris Maybe a solution would be best t

Re: Point and click GUI builder for Python

Madhusudan Singh wrote: > Is there such a thing for python ? Like Qt Designer for instance ? The easiest way to create Python GUI apps: PythonCard. It is based on wxPython by it has a higher level of abstraction. You just drag and drop widgets on a form and code the events like you woud in Visual

Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? (e.g. 'modulescope' or 'module' better?)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've heard 2 people complain that word 'global' is confusing. > > Perhaps 'modulescope' or 'module' would be better? > > Am I the first peope to have thought of this and suggested it? > > Is this a candidate for Python 3000 yet? > > Chris I don't think the global key

Re: about coding

Robert Kern a écrit : > It depends. Are those characters encoded as UTF-8? Or, more likely, are > they encoded as ISO-8859-1? > >> Where can I find a pratical explanation about these encodings ? > > > http://www.amk.ca/python/howto/unicode > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_encoding > ht

Re: why no arg, abs methods for comlex type?

On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 06:44:03 GMT, Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:24:26 +0200, Daniel Schüle ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: > >> >>c = 1+1j >> >>c.arg(angle_mode = cmath.GRAD) -> 45.0 >> > >> > >> >Is that right? The res

Re: How to use DrPython plugins

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Re: Some simple performace tests (long)

TPJ wrote: > I decided to measure the performance of range and xrange... > > The results were as follows: > > n rprint xrprint > > 10^40.37 s 0.34 s <- (1) > 10^54.26 s 4.25 s > 10^642.57 s 42.57 s > 10^7431.94 s438.32 s

Fat and happy Pythonistas (was Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? ...)

John Roth wrote: > It's not going to happen because the Python community is fat and happy, > and is not seeing the competition moving up on the outside. Characteristics > that make a great language one day make a mediocre one a few years > later, and make a has-been a few years after that. And her

Re: Syntax error after upgrading to Python 2.4

Fernando wrote: >>I don't see the problem yet. I certainly do not see anything that should >>have been affected by the upgrade (was it from 2.3 on XP also?) > > > Yes. > > >>After checking for nonprinting chars, I would shuffle the param-default >>lines to try to determine which is really at f

Re: Replacement for keyword 'global' good idea? (e.g. 'modulescope' or 'module' better?)

"Mike Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "John Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> A much better idea would be to fix the underlying >> situation that makes the global statement necessary. > > You

Re: about coding

Benjamin Niemann wrote: > cantabile wrote: > > >>Hi, being a newbie in Python, I'm a bit lost with the '-*- coding : -*-' >>directive. >> >>I'm using an accented characters language. Some of them are correctly >>displayed while one doesn't. I've written : >>-*- coding: utf-8 -*- >> >>Is this wron

Some simple performace tests (long)

"The advantage of xrange() over range() is minimal (since xrange() still has to create the values when asked for them) except when a very large range is used on a memory-starved machine or when all of the range's elements are never used (such as when the loop is usually terminated with break)." - f

Re: Syntax error after upgrading to Python 2.4

Fernando wrote: > I reinstalled version 2.3.5 and everything works fine now. It's > definately something related to the latest version. No problem in software is definite until you actually know what the solution is. I'd suspect something other than a simple problem in 2.4 itself, since otherwi

Re: Putting function references in a Queue

Richard Townsend wrote: > I've been experimenting putting a reference to a function into a Queue > object and was wondering what actually gets put in the Queue - is it the > function's code object? No, it's justa referenceto the function object. > If I read from the Queue in a different module,

Re: Putting function references in a Queue

Richard Townsend wrote: > I've been experimenting putting a reference to a function into a Queue > object and was wondering what actually gets put in the Queue - is it the > function's code object? It would simply be the entire function object (unless you choose it otherwise). > If I read from t

Re: why no arg, abs methods for comlex type?

Daniel Schüle wrote: >> Okay. Write a patch. Personally, I would prefer that it be a >> function in cmath rather than a method because then it could be made >> to work on integers and regular floats, too. > > Ok, but what semantic should angle/arg have, say for 3 respectively > for 3.0? > the s

Putting function references in a Queue

I've been experimenting putting a reference to a function into a Queue object and was wondering what actually gets put in the Queue - is it the function's code object? If I read from the Queue in a different module, it appears that I don't need to import the module that defines the function - or a

Re: why no arg, abs methods for comlex type?

[...] > Okay. Write a patch. Personally, I would prefer that it be a > function in cmath rather than a method because then it could be made to > work on integers and regular floats, too. Ok, but what semantic should angle/arg have, say for 3 respectively for 3.0? the same as for arg(3+0j)? --

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How to use DrPython plugins

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