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Would a C version only be for 3.3 or backported to 3.2 and 2.7. The rationale
for backport to 2.7 is that .cmp_to_key was added to 2.7 to aid transition to
3.x. A faster version would make use in 2.7 more inviting.
I understand
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I had some of the same questions, so I agree this would be a good addition.
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Filip, you can look at the changed Benjamin made. One needs to be OP or have
admin privileges to change the headers.
Could you reupload your patch to this issue?
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I would say yes (if you are sure changes are correct) unless Nick speaks up to
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@Tim: was it your intention that difflib track gnu diff?
I am on the fence with this issue. Without input from Tim other than the doc, I
am tempted to call this a feature request and retitle it "Make unified_diff
match gnu diff for [] input". The d
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I do not understand 'circular'. The change is from 'attribute exists' to
'attribute has correct value'. If any are changed, I would think all should be
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All the types in the types module are, being types, potentially callable to
produce instances of that type. But they are in types rather than builtins
precisely because it is not expected that they be called directly. They are
bound to names in types
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The error message suggests that somehow a str string has gotten mixed in with
the bytes. Something like '\n' or ' '?
Steffen, if you want to help track this down:
1. What is a minimal msgdata that gives the same error; post it.
2. Add &#x
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Devs are aware that there is an exception to the general rule for the 'for'
clause. There is a technical reason why the exception is possible, though I
have forgotten it.
Since you already know that changing the general behavior has been rejected
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Title changed.
Generator expressions had the same limitation in 2.x.
All comprehensions have the same limitation in 3.x.
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Elsewhere, Guido said that this appears *not* to be a security bug since the
crash is "triggered by a logic bug in the user's code, not by bad data." Hence,
not eligible for backport to 2.5/6, which are in security-fix only mode.
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Messages that only consist of links are classified that way. To refer to other
issues, use #x, as with #6040, but I have no idea which of the many
messages you were referring to, so use msgxx.
The stack overflow link
http://stackoverflow.com
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For anyone curious, I removed the falsely classified as spam message after
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Thanks. I remember now: the initial iter_exp is evaluated immediately because
it always *can* be, because it is only evaluated once and can only involve
'outside' names, whereas the result expression and any conditional expressions
and further
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Thanks, Raymond. That file says (in the -u section) "If a range is empty, its
beginning line number shall be the number of the line just before the range, or
0 if the empty range starts the file." The last clause says to me that gnu diff
is righ
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One can currently save the contents of a shell window exactly as is, with
opening message, prompts, and restarts. This essentially a screenshot of the
frame -- fine for an IDLE doc but not useful for rerunning the code.
Similarly, if one pastes in
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Do those new check finish this issue and should it be closed?
If not, what is left?
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Thanks all for fixing. This 'silently' crashes IDLE with no message.
Just 'poof'.
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Sorry, patches sometimes sit awhile before a developer who can do something
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Jack, several questions.
Are you saying that when stdin is a pipe and not a tty, pdb works better with
use_rawinput set False?
Are you sure that the auto setting is correct in all use cases?
Are you aware that you can set use_rawinput 'manually'
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Swapnil, please pay attention to what people write.
PYTHON 2.6 IS NOT OPEN FOR BUGFIXES.
Please do not add 2.6 to this issue again or reopen until you find a problem
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What do you propose for a fix?
1. Find a more reliable host to test with?
2. Change test to catch the error and convert failure to a skip?
3. Both ;-?
4. Something else?
Something like 2 would seem like a good idea for all tests dependent on a
resource out of
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I am not sure if this should be called a bug or feature request, but that does
not matter so much with IDLE.
Os.system is documented as executing in a subshell and returning the exit code,
which is does. The doc also says "If command generates any o
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Python 2.7.1 ... 32 bit (Intel)] on win32
>>> import sys
>>> sys.stdin.flush()
>>>
stdin.flush() could mean to clear (discard) the input buffer. Given that it is
undefined, the puzzle is that it exists at all, even to be called.
C
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Please do not send html responses, as they result in a spurious 'unnamed' file
being attached.
Please do suggest a specific change.
Should this be changed to a doc issue?
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This sentence is awkward, at best.
"Alternative to a private key and a certificate key an optional SSLContext
could be specified."
I suggest something like: "SSLcontext, also optional, is an alternative to
keyfile and certfile; if it is spe
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Python 2.7 or 3.2, WinXP these pass:
C:\Programs\Python27>python -m test.regrtest test_argparse
C:\Programs\Python32>python -m test test_argparse
[1/1] test_argparse
1 test OK.
C:\Programs\Py
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If I put the same line I ran interactively in a file and run it
from test import test_argparse as t; t.test_main()
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I presume you are talking about long boxed grammar or example lines that run
horizontally past the right edge of the window, like
id_start ::=
For both the .html (online) and .chm (windows help) versions of the docs, these
boxes have horizontal scroll
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Note: 3.x correct gives the signature at enumerate(iterable, start) rather that
enumerate(sequence, start).
I agree that the current entry is a bit awkward. Perhaps the doc would be
clearer with a reference to zipping. Removing the unneeded definition of
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Thanks for the diagnosis. I am glad it is something simple.
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Then this appears to be a duplicate. Closing
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The Windows distribution comes with the docs in a very nice Windows help file
.chm form. When displayed, they is a left side bar with a Contents tab. The top
entry is 'Python vx.y documentation' followed by 'Python Module Index' and
&
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The range of interned ints was once much smaller, but it was expanded upwards
to 256 so that the bytes extracted from bytes and bytearray objects, as when
indexing or iterating, would *all* be pre-allocated objects. I should presume
that their indexers and
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Carl, anyone is free to submit an incomplete patch, and people often do, but if
people who are affected by an issue do not think it worth their time to
complete it, or even move it along, there is no reason to expect people who are
not affected by it to
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(Note: the word is 'separate', 2 e's and 2 a's, not 'seperate')
(Note: We already know that using unbound unquoted names does not work. Please
do not waste our time telling us the obvious.)
(Note: I am removing IDLE because th
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I had not really noticed that the Index *was* the General Index. In trying it
out, I discovered that double-clicking on entries with multiple links in the
General Index, such as 'name,binding' with 7 links, brings up a sub-box with
all seven.
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
To repeat concisely what I said on pydev list, I think Reference 5.9.
Comparisons, which says
"Tuples and lists are compared lexicographically using comparison of
corresponding elements. This means that to compare equal, each element must
compare equa
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Is there any reason not to close this as a CPython issue?
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Windows Explorer does not so allow, but yes, Windows does. With xp
>>> os.stat('some file ')
nt.stat_result(st_mode=33206, st_ino=6473924464520118, st_dev=0, st_nlink=1,
st_uid=0, st_gid=0, st_size=13, st_atime=1304114221, st_mtime=13
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Markus, I agree with Martin that this patch would go against current policy and
should be closed. Rather than close it myself, I will try to persuade you to do
so.
First, CPython is actually in the process of 'slimming down', of removing, not
addi
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I believe the patch produces the following as the first sentence
"When a module named :mod:`spam` is imported, the interpreter searches for a
file named :file:`spam.py` in a list of directories given by the variable
``sys.path`` which is initialized fro
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Mark, this is a feature request to change the storage of loggers. A behavior
issue (bug report) must report a discrepancy between doc and behavior. Vinay
rejected that request as not really possible.
Questions about using yum should go to a yum list or to
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Did you run the httplib test with your patch? Interactively
>>> from test.test_httplib import test_main as f; f()
(verbose mode, over 40 tests)
In 3.x, the patch would be to http/client.py, line 802 in 3.2 release
if isinstance(message_body, str) # b
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This is an improvement that I think should be committed before 3.2.1.
Some comments:
+.. function:: run_doctest(module, verbosity=None)
+ Run :mod:`doctest` on the given *module*.
should be, I believe,
+ Run :func:`doctest.testmod` on the given *module
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I think this is the wrong patch for reasons given below.
The example should be replaced instead.
Readline is documented as returning '' at EOF for text files.
Iter(func,sentinel) is documented as calling func until sentinel is returned.
If that nev
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I like the idea of an internal REflag class with __new__, __or__, and
__repr__==__str__. Str(re.A|re.L) might print as
"REflag: re.ASCII | re.IGNORE"
If it is *not* an int subclass, any attempt to use or mix with an int would
raise. I checked and th
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I looked as the small patch to smptd.py. This strikes me a a reasonable use of
dependency injection to make smptd more usable in testing, especially given
that asyncx are have it.
The only thing I do not understand fully is the redefinition of set_socket
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Unlike test.support, whose doc was recently expanded by a patch by Eli
Bendersky, I see no mention of test.script helper in the test doc. [Do you
think there should be?]. I was not aware of it. It might be newer than the 'old
way'.
I would have t
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Takayuki is correct, the status and header strings should, it seems, be 'native
strings', not bytes.
The experimental proof is to run the current example code (I did so from IDLE
editor window on WinXP) and then enter http://localhost:8000/
in
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OK, passing self.sockmap=None to setsocket matches its current behavior, so
your new code should not change any current smtpd users, while modifying
asyncore.dispatcher.create_socket might possibly affect someone
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Agreed, if we go that route.
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Running on winxp with IDLE, I get the second traceback, all the same after the
first line. Given "target is the callable object to be invoked by the run()
method.", I would have expected this to work too.
Problem is not builtins:
class C:
def f
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zipfile.ZipFile takes a file arg that can be a 'path to a file (a string) or a
file-like object'. The .write() method takes a filename arg. I would think that
the proposal should be what the title says, to expand that to a file arg,
either a pat
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"Also, the segfault only occurs when python is
compiled with optimizations and run under valgrind."
This says to me that the segfault is not a Python issue.
What change do you expect in the Python source code?
If none, this issue should
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
I agree that the json module should stick with the json definition. Adding
other stuff would take it even further from simplejson.
A conversion function, if short enough, could be posted on the cookbook.
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I verified bug on winxp with 2.7
xrangef [5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0]
py26 []
py27 [5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0, -1, -2]
v1 [5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0]
v2 [5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0]
v3 [5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0]
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xrangef [5, 3, 1, -1, -3]
py26 []
py27 [5, 3, 1, -1, -3, -5]
v1 [5, 3
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u'' in 2.7.1 also, on winxp
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My title suggestion was meant to say "Yes, if you are willing to expand the
scope of this issue and do more work, go ahead' ;-).
I have not looked at help(test), but it should be complete if it is not.
I was referring to the test module doc 25.
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Sandro, import is a somewhat dark corner of Python that newcomers and even
experienced people ofter trip over. So getting the text both correct and clear
is worth some thought.
I just noticed that the text is only true for Python-coded modules and not for
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Your title mixes a goal -- exposing more of the MSI api -- with a particular
means -- exposing an object that is only useful with ctypes. So I have taken
the liberty of removing the implementation limitation. While clever, I do not
believe that strategy has
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Looking at cjkencodings.py the format is pretty clear. The file consists of one
statement that creates one dict that maps encoding names to a pair of (encoded)
byte strings. The bytes literals are entirely hex escapes, with a maximum of 16
per chunk (line
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Reading http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1843 suggests that the reason that there
is no HZ pair in cjkencodings.py is that it is not a cjkencoding. Instead it is
a formatter or meta-encoding for intermixing ascii codes and GB2312(-80) codes.
(I assume the
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Reading http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1843 suggests that the reason that there
is no HZ pair in cjkencodings.py is that it is not a cjkencoding. Instead it is
a formatter or meta-encoding for intermixing ascii codes and GB2312(-80) codes.
(I assume the
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Current 3.2 doc, 5.9. Comparisons, has this paragraph about mixed-type
comparisons.
"The operators <, >, ==, >=, <=, and != compare the values of two objects. The
objects need not have the same type. If both are numbers, they are conve
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I disagree (else I would not have suggested change ;-). First, I dislike 'This
allows' on stylistic grounds, when there is a better alternative. It is rather
wishy-washy: 'this allows' -- so what? As for the rest -- why not be specific?
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Sandro, thank you for sticking with this. Seemingly simples issues sometimes
'explode' a bit. Having reviewed the patch, I think the it is ready to be
committed.
Éric: if you were to commit this and, in the process, wanted to change sys.path
bac
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A possible fix is to condense the output by omitting stuff in the center rather
than as the end:
"x\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx...x\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\n"
"x\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx...x\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\nx\r\n&
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I also found the doc confusing. Does "This exception collects exceptions that
raised during a multi-file operation." that Error is used for .rmtree or .move?
If so, what format. If not, revise. And I also wondered how to access and use
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
> my class also inherits from subprocess.Popen, which has a __del__ method,
> which might interfere w/ collection
The doc says __del__ *will* prevent collection.
> (although gc.garbage says otherwise ;).
Do you mean that gc.garbage is empty, when
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I am past beginner stage and I still open with the Start mene ;-)
If/when I install Ubuntu or other Linux, I would like to still be able to do
whatever is the equivalent, as with other stuff, rather than have to open a
command window and type a command
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Should there be a 'versionchanged' note in the doc, even if the error type was
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Thanks for persisting with this. Looking at the patch:
@@ -65,7 +63,7 @@
goal was to have Unicode contain the alphabets for every single human language.
It turns out that even 16 bits isn't enough to meet that goal, and the modern
Unicode specification
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0 through ... is fine with me.
Yes, hex numeral would be more accurate than hex digit.
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Download and install a current release 2.6.6, 2.7, or 3.1.2 (or 2.7.1 or 3.1.3
in a week or so). Disable or otherwise reconfigure whatever firewall or
security software you have that is blocking the socket connection (as your
screenshot says).
If you still
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+1
I have not yet had occasion to use 'with' yet, but in reading the Unicode HOWTO
diff, I noticed that I liked replacing 'open,read,close' with 'with open, read'
just for reading purposes since it turns 3 steps into 1 compound t
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Deadline is probably next Fri. However I will apply this or slight revision
thereof in a couple of days to make sure this much is in. I have to fixup some
work stuff today.
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3.2, 3.1, 2.7: r86702, r86703, r86704
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Georg, if your comment means that you think that the doc patch is ready to
apply, as is, without testing with a doc build, then I will do so for all 3
versions.
Should there really be two blank lines after the note
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Doc patch applied to 3.2, 3.1, 2.7 in r86717, r86718, r86719
Jeremy Thurgood added to 3.2 Misc/ACKS in r86720.
(I know, I should have added this first before committing.)
I am leaving this open for a possible behavior patch.
Mathew: look at the examples by
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Add list.clear() method with obvious semantics.
Pro:
1. parallel to set/dict/defaultdict/deque.clear(),
usable in generic mutable collection function;
2. makes it easier to switch between list and other collection class;
3. current alternatives are not as
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