Re: pyramid 1.0a5 released

2010-12-15 Thread Jerry
Many thanks Chris, the problem is solved in 1.0a6 Jerry On Dec 16, 4:16 am, Chris McDonough wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 12:54 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 09:50 -0800, Jerry wrote: > > > Hi Chris, > > > > Upon upgrade, and after updating all "from pyramid.config imp

pyramid 1.0a6 released

2010-12-15 Thread Chris McDonough
Yesterday's alpha (1.0a5) was a bit of a brownbag due to a bug it introduced when "pyramid.config.Configurator.scan()" was called without arguments. To ensure that the fewest number of people run into this bug, I've made a 1.0a6 release with a fix. A number of other documentation and testing impr

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread Reed O'Brien
On Dec 15, 4:01 pm, Chris McDonough wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 12:55 -0800, reed wrote: > > > > The need for a change is mostly rationalized by this: > > > >http://docs.pylonshq.com/pyramid/dev/designdefense.html#pyramid-uses-... >  I think folks who prefer > "node" (or really anything-not-r

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 12:55 -0800, reed wrote: > > On Dec 15, 3:30 pm, Chris McDonough wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 15:25 -0500, Chris Rossi wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:38 PM, reed wrote: > > > > > I am not adverse to renaming, but I think it needs to be > > > defi

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread reed
On Dec 15, 3:30 pm, Chris McDonough wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 15:25 -0500, Chris Rossi wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:38 PM, reed wrote: > > >         I am not adverse to renaming, but I think it needs to be > >         definitive > >         and concise enough to prevent more questi

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 15:25 -0500, Chris Rossi wrote: > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:38 PM, reed wrote: > > > I am not adverse to renaming, but I think it needs to be > definitive > and concise enough to prevent more questions from arising than > it >

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread Chris Rossi
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:38 PM, reed wrote: > > I am not adverse to renaming, but I think it needs to be definitive > and concise enough to prevent more questions from arising than it > would solve. I don't think 'resource' meets those criteria. > > I tend to agree with this. I'll try to brains

Re: pyramid 1.0a5 released

2010-12-15 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 12:54 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 09:50 -0800, Jerry wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > > > Upon upgrade, and after updating all "from pyramid.config import > > Configurator", I receive many DeprecationWarning on packages that are > > never imported in my proj

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread reed
> For those folks that strongly disagree, given that some distinction > needs to be made between "domain model" and "graph of traversable > objects", can you think of a better term than "resource" for a node in > that graph? Node? Atom? And you could still define them in a 'Model' -- You receiv

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread reed
On Dec 15, 12:13 pm, Chris McDonough wrote: > I'm considering making a fairly major terminology change to the Pyramid > docs.  I'd like to consider renaming the term "model" to "resource" in > the docs. -0 to renaming -1 to resource > Why "resource"?  Well, a URL is a "universal resource locat

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread Mike Orr
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Daniel Holth wrote: > -1 I think the word 'resource' is at least as overloaded as the word > 'model'. I'm tending toward -0. Best to leave the existing terminology until a more compelling name is found for traversal-model, one that is less ambiguous than "model"

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:13:05PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote: > I'm considering making a fairly major terminology change to the Pyramid > docs. I'd like to consider renaming the term "model" to "resource" in > the docs. ... > Does anyone strongly agree or strongly disagree with this? I'm waver

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread Daniel Holth
-1 I think the word 'resource' is at least as overloaded as the word 'model'. If it's a graph it could contain nodes? After an "aha" moment, I always thought of my bfg app as having a traversal model /and/ a data model, with the leaves of the traversal model tending to be SQLAlchemy mapped cla

Re: pyramid 1.0a5 released

2010-12-15 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 09:50 -0800, Jerry wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Upon upgrade, and after updating all "from pyramid.config import > Configurator", I receive many DeprecationWarning on packages that are > never imported in my project (full output > http://pylonshq.com/pasties/2bc1675b1f3718399910845

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 17:43 +, Graham Higgins wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 15 Dec 2010, at 17:13, Chris McDonough wrote: > > I'm considering making a fairly major terminology change to the > > Pyramid > > docs. I'd like to consider renaming the term "model

Re: pyramid 1.0a5 released

2010-12-15 Thread Jerry
Hi Chris, Upon upgrade, and after updating all "from pyramid.config import Configurator", I receive many DeprecationWarning on packages that are never imported in my project (full output http://pylonshq.com/pasties/2bc1675b1f3718399910845448bfd0a8 ) -- /usr/lib/python2.6/inspect.py:252: Deprecati

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread Chris Shenton
On Dec 15, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: > I'm considering making a fairly major terminology change to the Pyramid > docs. I'd like to consider renaming the term "model" to "resource" in > the docs. My only concern would be that some folks use "resource" to refer to things like .jss

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread Graham Higgins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15 Dec 2010, at 17:13, Chris McDonough wrote: I'm considering making a fairly major terminology change to the Pyramid docs. I'd like to consider renaming the term "model" to "resource" in the docs. Does anyone strongly agree or strongly disa

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread w31rd0
+1 "Resource" is a more straightforward term when it comes to traversal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-de...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-d

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread Rocky Burt
+1 for me The name doesn't really matter that much to me but anyone learning Pyramid from a non-zopey background will get tripped up by the usage of model imho. - Rocky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-devel" group. To post to this group, se

Re: pyramid 1.0a5 released

2010-12-15 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 19:17 +0200, averkh...@gmail.com wrote: > When planned release and freeze api Our "hard" deadline is the date of PyCon US (March 11). But, depending upon contributor schedules, we may be able to release it before then. - C -- You received this message because you are

Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread jorge.var...@gmail.com
+0 from my part On Dec 15, 1:13 pm, Chris McDonough wrote: > I'm considering making a fairly major terminology change to the Pyramid > docs.  I'd like to consider renaming the term "model" to "resource" in > the docs. > > Since repoze.bfg 0.1, we've used the term "model" to refer to each > object

Re: pyramid 1.0a5 released

2010-12-15 Thread averkh...@gmail.com
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Re: pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread Andrew Sawyers
Chris, I don't strongly agree or disagree - but it seems like a +1 to me. A On 12/15/10 9:13 AM, "Chris McDonough" wrote: > I'm considering making a fairly major terminology change to the Pyramid > docs. I'd like to consider renaming the term "model" to "resource" in > the docs. > > Since re

pyramid terminology: "model"->"resource"

2010-12-15 Thread Chris McDonough
I'm considering making a fairly major terminology change to the Pyramid docs. I'd like to consider renaming the term "model" to "resource" in the docs. Since repoze.bfg 0.1, we've used the term "model" to refer to each object that forms the graph used by traversal. This is due to Pyramid's Zope