Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-17 Thread Stefan Heijmans
Hi, > > What will be the option(s) for Puppet users with no internet connection (not allowed), if things start to depend more on PMT and Puppet Forge? Will we be able to make a local repo and do something like a 'puppet module localinstall' ? -- You received this message because you are subsc

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-17 Thread Kelsey Hightower
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Walter Heck wrote: > Yeah, right after that email I saw the 2.7.14rc1 release notes and > answered my own question, my apologies :) No worries, we're here to help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" gro

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-17 Thread Walter Heck
Yeah, right after that email I saw the 2.7.14rc1 release notes and answered my own question, my apologies :) On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 02:26, Kelsey Hightower wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Walter Heck wrote: >> >> >> On Apr 18, 2012 1:39 AM, "Nigel Kersten" wrote: >> >> > Absolutely.

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-17 Thread Kelsey Hightower
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Walter Heck wrote: > > On Apr 18, 2012 1:39 AM, "Nigel Kersten" wrote: > > > Absolutely. This is the functionality we'll have available in Puppet. > > > > # puppet module list > > /etc/puppetlabs/puppet/production/modules > > └── nigelkersten-testmac (v0.0.2) > >

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-17 Thread Walter Heck
On Apr 18, 2012 1:39 AM, "Nigel Kersten" wrote: > Absolutely. This is the functionality we'll have available in Puppet. > > # puppet module list > /etc/puppetlabs/puppet/production/modules > └── nigelkersten-testmac (v0.0.2) > /opt/puppet/share/puppet/modules > ├── puppetlabs-pe_accounts (v1.0.2)

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-17 Thread Nigel Kersten
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Tim Mooney wrote: > In regard to: Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types...: > > > Todd, welcome and I feel your pain. Trust me, I pushed every way I >> could to use native packages as our module deliver mechanism. However >> we have some odd

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-17 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types...: Todd, welcome and I feel your pain. Trust me, I pushed every way I could to use native packages as our module deliver mechanism. However we have some odd requirements that make things not work as well with RPM (or deb, o

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-16 Thread Ashley Penney
This is kind of an argument against moving these things out of the core in the first place in my opinion. The fact that you can now have multiple versions of the nagios provider is just worse than having a single copy. Before at least I could update to 2.7.x and be assured all my providers were a

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-16 Thread Michael Stahnke
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Michael Stahnke wrote: >> >> For the next major Puppet version, code-named Telly, we have some changes >> coming.  This is the first in a series of emails around these changes and >> may require some input from the community. >> >> For Tell

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-16 Thread Nigel Kersten
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Michael Stahnke wrote: > >> For the next major Puppet version, code-named Telly, we have some changes >> coming. This is the first in a series of emails around these changes and >> may require some input from the community. >> >> For Tell

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-16 Thread Kelsey Hightower
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Ken Barber wrote: > A pm2rpm tool perhaps Todd? :-). Something like pm2rpm would work, but we need to have a least one standard path for Puppet modules. I guess we can count on /etc/puppet/modules or /usr/share/puppet/modules being part of the default module pat

Re: [Puppet-dev] Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-16 Thread Ken Barber
A pm2rpm tool perhaps Todd? :-). On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Michael Stahnke wrote: >> >> For the next major Puppet version, code-named Telly, we have some changes >> coming.  This is the first in a series of emails around these changes and >> may require some input f

Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-16 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module,...: If I wanted to use a secondary package management system, I could use gems or eggs or CPAN, but I don't. ;) +1. Tim -- Tim Mooney tim.moo...@ndsu.edu Enterprise Comp

Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-16 Thread Todd Zullinger
Michael Stahnke wrote: For the next major Puppet version, code-named Telly, we have some changes coming. This is the first in a series of emails around these changes and may require some input from the community. For Telly, the nagios types will be moved into a module. This allows them to b

Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-15 Thread Kelsey Hightower
On Friday, April 13, 2012 3:06:52 PM UTC-4, Ashley Penney wrote: > > I think that would be OK. I'm actually fairly nervous about this new move > towards dragging > more and more out of the core into modules. It wouldn't be so bad if > Puppet had a proper > "packaging system" that handled depend

Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-15 Thread Walter Heck
Well, i think there's a big difference between things that are standard in a linux distro and modules that are 3rd party software like nagios. Besides I think this is all adressed by what Nigel just mentioned: the moduel tool does dependency stuff starting with Telly. cheers, Walter On Mon, Apr

Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-15 Thread Gabriel Filion
On 12-04-13 03:06 PM, Ashley Penney wrote: > I'm actually fairly nervous about this new move towards dragging > more and more out of the core into modules. It wouldn't be so bad if > Puppet had a proper > "packaging system" that handled dependencies and so forth, but as it > stands I'm just worrie

Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-15 Thread Nigel Kersten
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Ashley Penney wrote: > I think that would be OK. I'm actually fairly nervous about this new move > towards dragging > more and more out of the core into modules. It wouldn't be so bad if > Puppet had a proper > "packaging system" that handled dependencies and s

Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-13 Thread Ashley Penney
I think that would be OK. I'm actually fairly nervous about this new move towards dragging more and more out of the core into modules. It wouldn't be so bad if Puppet had a proper "packaging system" that handled dependencies and so forth, but as it stands I'm just worried about reaching a situati

[Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module

2012-04-13 Thread Michael Stahnke
For the next major Puppet version, code-named Telly, we have some changes coming. This is the first in a series of emails around these changes and may require some input from the community. For Telly, the nagios types will be moved into a module. This allows them to be iterated on in isolation f