Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies

2015-07-06 Thread jcbollinger
On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 10:30:59 AM UTC-5, R.I. Pienaar wrote: What I really want is a way for resources to influence sorting only and not > make > dependencies. > Why? A resource relationship expresses the idea that the resource at one end must be configured before the one at the othe

Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies

2015-07-04 Thread R.I.Pienaar
- Original Message - > From: "Fraser Goffin" > To: "puppet-users" > Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 10:27:36 AM > Subject: Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies > Caveat: I know nothing about your specific infrastructure and application >

Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies

2015-07-04 Thread Fraser Goffin
Caveat: I know nothing about your specific infrastructure and application stack setup or how you manage it or the suitability of the business apps you have deployed or .. Well you get the idea, but in a VM world, wouldn't you prefer following the immutable server pattern, then uninstalls ar

Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies

2015-07-03 Thread R.I.Pienaar
- Original Message - > From: "Daniel Dreier" > To: "puppet-users" > Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 4:19:09 PM > Subject: Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies >> On Jul 3, 2015, at 7:42 AM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: >> >> >>

Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies

2015-07-03 Thread Daniel Dreier
> On Jul 3, 2015, at 7:42 AM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > > > > - Original Message - >> From: "Christopher Wood" >> To: "puppet-users" >> Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 3:34:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without d

Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies

2015-07-03 Thread Craig Dunn
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 4:42 PM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > On teardown I don't care what stays and go, just want to try my best to kill > things > > So the resources in question are varied and custom and spread over multiple > hosts. > > So rather than a specific solution that involves just killing t

Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies

2015-07-03 Thread Christopher Wood
On Fri, Jul 03, 2015 at 03:42:42PM +0100, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Christopher Wood" > > To: "puppet-users" > > Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 3:34:29 PM > > Subject: Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without d

Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies

2015-07-03 Thread R.I.Pienaar
- Original Message - > From: "Christopher Wood" > To: "puppet-users" > Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 3:34:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies > On Fri, Jul 03, 2015 at 02:10:55PM +0100, R.I.Pienaar wrote: >> hello, &

Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies

2015-07-03 Thread Christopher Wood
On Fri, Jul 03, 2015 at 02:10:55PM +0100, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > hello, > > I am looking for a way to influence run order without also doing dependencies. > > I have a case where I am removing a bit of software from my system and so as > is > typical things need to be done in a different order fro

Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies

2015-07-03 Thread R.I.Pienaar
- Original Message - > From: "Craig Dunn" > To: "puppet-users" > Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 2:47:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies > On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:10 PM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: >> hello, >> &

Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies

2015-07-03 Thread Craig Dunn
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:10 PM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > hello, > > I am looking for a way to influence run order without also doing dependencies. > > I have a case where I am removing a bit of software from my system and so as > is > typical things need to be done in a different order from creation,

Re: [Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies

2015-07-03 Thread Craig Dunn
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:10 PM, R.I.Pienaar wrote: > > I tried: > > exec{"false": before => Exec["true"]} > exec{"true": } > > This fails because before implies a requirement. If you don't care about a failure, why not always mask it to be true? exec { '/bin/remove mystuff; /bin/true': b

[Puppet Users] Ordering without dependencies

2015-07-03 Thread R.I.Pienaar
hello, I am looking for a way to influence run order without also doing dependencies. I have a case where I am removing a bit of software from my system and so as is typical things need to be done in a different order from creation, crucially I also do not really care if removal fails. It shoul