Re: GNOME2 panel faults, then craters completely

2002-10-19 Thread Havoc Pennington
"Robert G. (Doc) Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thank goodness I installed KDE because less than a week after upgrading > to RH8.0 from RH7.3 my laptop suffered a major GNOME2 problem at > startup. The panel crashed leaving only its "hide" arrow in the lower > left hand corner of the screen

Re: Reasonable KDE menu structure?

2002-10-22 Thread Havoc Pennington
Jason L Tibbitts III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a simple way to get the KDE menu structure to resemble > something reasonable instead of hiding all non-Red Hat approved > applications under "Extras"? My users are seriously confused about > having to look in two menu structures for the

Re: Meta-Space in Metacity

2002-10-22 Thread Havoc Pennington
"Klotz, Leigh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a way to make Metacity window manager not eat the meta-space > character? Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts Havoc

Re: Gnome-terminal font frustrations

2002-10-23 Thread Havoc Pennington
Hi, https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/psyche-list/2002-October/000585.html https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/psyche-list/2002-October/002797.html Havoc

Re: > Re: Reasonable KDE menu structure? (Havoc Pennington)

2002-10-23 Thread Havoc Pennington
Michael Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So please give a link to some documentation about what was changed in question > of the destroyed KDE menues (and panel-icons etc. too) and the way > '/etc/X11/desktop-menus/applications.menu' works . > I accept your try to unify the behavior of the des

Re: > Re: Reasonable KDE menu structure? (Havoc Pennington)

2002-10-25 Thread Havoc Pennington
Jason L Tibbitts III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>>>> "HP" == Havoc Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > HP> Well, not really. > > It's 100% breakage here; not a single panel icon has survived. Since > the desktop files are

Re: Creating ones own keyboard shortcuts

2002-10-25 Thread Havoc Pennington
Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > hmm xev looks good, but it doesn't register anything at all for 7 out of > 8 of my 'extra' keys on the keyboard. For the eighth it says > (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol). Its a 104 key keyboard with 8 extra keys along > the top (so I guess its a 112 key keybo

Re: Error in Konqueror settings (netscape plugins)

2002-10-26 Thread Havoc Pennington
Scott Foley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Can we at least determine if its is a KDE problem or a RedHat > modification to KDE? Does this happen with an unmodified version of KDE > 3.0.4? > > Anybody know? According to http://www.cyber.com.au/users/mikem/redhat8kde.html it's purely a compil

Re: Gnome panel keeps crashing

2002-10-28 Thread Havoc Pennington
Warren Togami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I can't reproduce this report. Is this a known bug? Any workaround? > > http://www.amdforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=166948 > Ask the guy to click through bug buddy and submit a gnome.org report, then post the link to that report. Or just open

Re: > Re: Reasonable KDE menu structure? (Havoc Pennington)

2002-10-29 Thread Havoc Pennington
Jason L Tibbitts III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmmm, my users' kickerrc files all reference absolute paths. I'll > test to see that it will work without them. (I have to support > releases back to Red Hat 7.1 here.) You may be right then, I apologize. I thought the rc files only kept the re

Re: add item to menu in gnome

2002-10-31 Thread Havoc Pennington
Michael Knepher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you already have an acroread.desktop file, just add the Categories > line. The second category entry ("Office") determines which submenu it > shows up in, and the X-Red-Hat-Base will force it into the main > directory (if you want it under the Extra

Re: add item to menu in gnome

2002-11-02 Thread Havoc Pennington
Michael Knepher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there Red Hat-centric documentation anywhere on editing the > menus? Not yet. You can find a lot of info in xdg-list archives (on https://listman.redhat.com) > Are user-specific menu configurations supported, and if so where would > the files go?

Re: whither gfontsel ?

2002-11-02 Thread Havoc Pennington
Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a gnome2 equivalent to this? I don't see anything with the > same functionality (other than xfontsel). > GTK2/Qt3 are using the new fontconfig/Xft2 fonts, a fontsel thingy for those would be relatively pointless. > And why would launching gnome-

Re: add item to menu in gnome

2002-11-04 Thread Havoc Pennington
w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I tried looking for the xdg-list on listman and don't find it .. has the > name changed? > Maybe it's not listed? Anyway, it's here: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/xdg-list Havoc

Re: whither gfontsel ?

2002-11-04 Thread Havoc Pennington
Thomas Dodd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > How about something like Bitstreams Font Navigator? > Or the way Windoze 9x displays text/charset of of > a given font when you "open" the font file. > > Currently fonts are recognized as such in nautilus, > but nothing can be done with them. > Indeed

Re: Why is gnome-teminal so slow?

2002-11-07 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 08:19:20PM +0100, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > Gnome-terminal like shipped in RedHat 8.0 is very, very, very slow. > The funny thing is that Mandrake 9 cames with exactly the same version > and it is about ten times faster (not an exaggeration). As fast as the > gnome-t

Re: Gnome start: stalling at Metacity

2002-11-07 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 04:17:41PM -0600, Tom Georgoulias wrote: > krieg stanz wrote: > > > How can I troubleshoot this? Where can I look for > > details as to the "why" of this, and how can I fix it? > > It sounds like you may have a problem with a saved session. > Try mv ~/.metacity ~/.metacity

Re: Missing gtk/gdk header files

2002-11-08 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 10:20:59AM +0100, Marco Fioretti wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to compile on a standard RH 8.0 box the xask program, and > "make" fails at the beginning, on this line: > > cc -I/usr/local/X11/include -I/usr/local/X11/lib/glib/include \ > -Wall -O -c -o xask.o xask.c

Re: Missing gtk/gdk header files

2002-11-08 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 05:45:29PM +0100, Marco Fioretti wrote: > On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 11:05:33 at 11:05:33AM -0500, Havoc Pennington wrote: > > > > The devel lib would be e.g. gtk+-devel/gtk2-devel, but it looks to me > > like the compiler line there is wrong. It shou

Re: Why is gnome-teminal so slow?

2002-11-10 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 09:46:21AM -0600, Gerald W. Lester wrote: > Suggestion: (btw I have no problems with the speed) You might want to > make available a version linked against Zvt that people who don't need > i18n and don't mind flick but do mind the added load (for whatever > reason) could swi

Re: Changing Greeter Background Image

2002-11-10 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 03:09:00PM -0600, Basil L. Copeland Jr. wrote: > I'm trying to change the greeter background image. I've tried using > the GUI login screen tool to shift from the Graphical greeter to the > Standard greeter. The GUI tool shows the Standard greeter pointing > to the image I

Re: Midnight Commander problem with RH 8.0

2002-11-16 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 11:50:33AM -0600, Mircea wrote: > > I recently installed Redhat 8.0 on my machine and I'm having a problem > with Midnight Commander. In Redhat 7.2, while in MC, I used to hit > "Enter" on a RPM file and browse its content. I could either install or > upgrade a package d

GNOME menus update

2002-11-17 Thread Havoc Pennington
Hi, An update on the menus saga. First, the bad news. The menu editing added to GNOME 2.0.2 modified the vfolder format somewhat such that it's incompatible with what shipped in 8.0 (it would break KDE). As a result, just recompiling a new gnome-panel version is pretty far from a shippable menu e

Re: Gnome Memory used > 1 Gb

2002-11-20 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 09:57:38AM +0700, PHD wrote: > > I just made a copy from my $HOME to another local drive (hdd1) in order > to save my datas. I use the command find . -print | cpio -pdumv, classic > command anyway. > > The copy (less than 1.7 MB) works with no problem but I noticed than >

Re: Unresponsiveness in Gnome

2002-11-20 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 04:05:18PM +1100, Taso Hatzi wrote: > > A 'make -j2 modules' (for example) from the Gnome desktop > makes the computer practically useless for anything else, > eg multi-second delays in cursor movements on screen. > This on an XP1800 with 512MB RAM. > Maybe you have a naut

Re: Wallpaper Changer

2002-11-22 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:26:54PM -0500, Randolph L. Chrismon wrote: > Is anyone aware of a program that will automatically change the > Bluecurve/Gnome wallpaper on some regular schedule? I've tried CHBG but > it seems unable to actaully change the wallpaper. Interestingly, the RH > 8.0 documenta

Re: Gnome Sytem Monitor and Terminal Memory Usage

2002-11-23 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 06:22:15PM -0500, Andy Zirkel wrote: > Gnome System Monitor consistently eats up Memory. It's been running for > about two hours and is using 350 megs of ram, climbing steadily. Gnome > Terminal acts similarly but it will use memory as text scrolls past, > usually hogging

Re: IceWm in kdm or gdm sessoini chooser

2002-11-30 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 01:58:32PM -0700, Jim Christiansen wrote: > > I've been poking around for days, but I can't find any elegant solution to > running IceWm other than creating a simple .xsession file in my home... > > That is not really a first solution, as it would be nice to have a choice

Re: How much has RH8 gnome been nobbled?

2002-12-02 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 04:17:08PM +, Neil Bird wrote: > - has gtcd gone? The 'gnome cd player' that's there isn't cddb > aware. It's cddb aware as far as I remember. The source code definitely contains a lot of CDDB-related stuff. I feel almost sure I've seen it magically come up with album

Re: Login Shells

2002-12-04 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:35:33PM -0500, Joshua Melbourne White wrote: > Can someone explain to me what login shells are and what are the > difference between them? (BASH, ect.). Also, on a side note, I would > like to thank everyone so far for answering all my questions. This list > has helped

Re: Running X on servers in really plain language...

2002-12-07 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 09:19:08AM -0700, Jim Christiansen wrote: > > Ok, so what I'm understanding is that a linux host system without X > installed can be accessed from another computer, remotely, using ssh and its > X system to operate an X session from the host? > You need the X applicatio

Re: GNOME panel, alt-tab and change window manager

2002-12-13 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 11:29:28AM -0500, Brian K. Jones wrote: > 1) on the gnome panel, I thought a 'window list' would show all the > windows you have open. It used to be there by default. Maybe it still > is, but when I minimize windows, I have no way of unminimizing them, > because there's n

Re: Start apps with keyboard short-cuts?

2002-12-15 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 10:21:24AM -0500, Jivan M wrote: > > Thank you for the info. I will check out the psych-list archives. Can > I safely ignore the warning message about gconf-editor potentially > creating havoc? Yeah, it's pretty safe. It may be a little flaky (crashes and stuff) but it wo

Re: LESS and Gnome-terminal

2002-12-15 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 01:45:01PM -0500, Jivan M wrote: > > I've noticed when I use xterm the "less" command will show colored/bold > words. In Gnome-terminal I don't get the same result. Any ideas how I > can get Gnome-terminal to show colored/bold words? > > NOTE - I'm using the "man" command

Re: LESS and Gnome-terminal

2002-12-15 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 03:13:04PM -0500, Jivan M wrote: > > OK, let me clarify a bit. The underline text works with > Gnome-terminal. That is fine. But the text that, I assume, is supposed > to be bold is not. In xterm that text is blue. In Gnome-terminal there > is no change. Oh, right. This ch

Re: ok to upgrade RH8 to Mozilla 1.2.1?

2002-12-15 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 11:40:08AM -0800, Randall J. Parr wrote: > I have was a little leary of upgrading to the Mozilla-1.2.1 Xft build. > The release notes implied it was missing features, etc. > > QUES 1) Is this build a little bit limited/beta OR missing whole bunches of features? > > QUES 2

Re: Mozilla silently omits HTML graph

2002-12-15 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 04:10:14PM -0500, David A. De Graaf wrote: > Two screenshots of the same page with mozilla and netscape are at: > http://datix.2y.net/mozilla/mozilla.png > http://datix.2y.net/mozilla/netscape.png > > Can anyone guess what's wrong? > Can anyone suggest where to loo

Re: virtual resolution

2002-12-16 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 04:58:32PM +0200, Pavel Rozenboim wrote: > > It's possible to change X display resolution by pressing --+, but > the virtual display size remains the same. Is it possible to make virtual > display size always equal to current size? > XFree86 4.3 has a new extension which

Re: virtual resolution

2002-12-16 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:49:06PM -0300, Javier Gostling wrote: > > Cool! I've been expecting something like this for years. Is this new > feature capable of switching to a different color depth too? > It was originally, I'm not sure it still has that feature though. May have been delayed to th

Re: Metacity hangs for several minutes when starting

2002-12-20 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 07:52:29PM +0100, Agon S. Buchholz wrote: > Can anyone please point me to information how to track down what > happens? As I understand the start-process of the "Bluecurve" UI, the X > Server has finished loading, started the Window Manager Metacity, so the > problem i

Re: Is there an applet/icon for the panel that hides all the windows, like in windows?

2002-12-25 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Wed, Dec 25, 2002 at 06:48:51AM +0100, Kent Nyberg wrote: > > I am wondering if there exists some kind of applet or icon for the gnome > panel that hides all the open windows on the desktop, like in windows. > I use only one workspace but some times i have several windows open and > want to acc

Re: Why no "Kill App"??

2002-12-26 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 02:39:05PM -0500, Beartooth wrote: > It used to be -- in RH 7.2, anyway -- when something got > hung up, that you could right-click on its little spot on the > panel, whatever that's called, and along with choices like > Maximize, Minimize, etc., you got one for Kill A

Re: Why no "Kill App"??

2002-12-26 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 03:38:12PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > And there is no obvious/easy way provided to > continue to use GNOME without using Metacity. It's a simple two commands typed into a terminal, or a trivial text edit of ~/.gnome2/session. Documenting better how to switch WMs, or fi

Re: How to port existing apps to xft2?

2003-01-02 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 08:09:56AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > Ok, well where do Xt apps fit in? Or do they, even? > > I'll take xterm over any of its replacements any day of the week. xterm does support Xft2. Try something like "xterm -fa monospace" I think. Havoc -- Psyche-list mailing

Re: Adobe fonts

2003-01-03 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 08:40:42PM -0500, Peter Larsen wrote: > I am getting this error/warning from an X application: > Font specified in font.properties not found >[--symbol-medium-r-normal--*-%d-*-*-p-*-adobe-fontspecific] > Font specified in font.properties not found >[--symbol-medium-r-norma

Re: Same fonts on display and paper via fontconfig?

2003-01-04 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 08:05:07AM +0100, Marco Fioretti wrote: > > I just read here : > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2002-March/msg00298.html > > the following statement, right before the last paragraph: > > This also unifies font > selection and configuration under the Fontco

Re: gnome-terminal is terminally ill :)

2003-01-04 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 05:56:50PM -0700, Tommy McNeely wrote: > I guess I will post a bug (as soon as I remember my login) ... but has > anyone else gotten that behavior? I can do "ALT+F2" and use xterm for > now :) It's probably just the Xft memory leak caused by lack of the RENDER extension -

Re: gnome-terminal is terminally ill :)

2003-01-04 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 05:58:52PM -0800, Nathan G. Grennan wrote: > On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 17:48, Havoc Pennington wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 05:56:50PM -0700, Tommy McNeely wrote: > > > I guess I will post a bug (as soon as I remember my login) ... but has > > &

Re: gnome-terminal is terminally ill :)

2003-01-04 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 08:05:50PM -0700, Tommy McNeely wrote: > # rpm -U Xft*i386.rpm > > (really really long list of this requires that) > > Suggested resolutions: > XFree86-libs-4.2.99.2-0.20021217.0.i386.rpm > Oh, are you running phoebe? Yeah those RPMs will probably not work. Yo

Re: OpenOffice

2002-11-12 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 04:56:02AM +1100, Bill wrote: > > Can anybody give me any tips on improving the font rendering in > OpenOffice? > > Right now it looks really bad. This is what it currently looks like: > > >http://www.linuxjournal.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=NS-articles/currents&fil

Re: SMB working in nautilus

2002-09-30 Thread Havoc Pennington
Todd Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Prior to the 8.0 release you could browse SMB shares in nautilus > by typing "smb://". This would show you all available shares on > your network but if you tried to enter one it would never prompt > you for a login ID or password. Now it seems you can't

Re: SMB working in nautilus

2002-09-30 Thread Havoc Pennington
"Warren Togami" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - Original Message ----- > From: "Havoc Pennington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:54 AM > Subject: Re: SMB working in nautilus > > &g

Re: Anyone seen my "Q" ??

2002-10-05 Thread Havoc Pennington
Olafur Sigurgeirsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I lost the letter "Q" on my keyboard in X. > Its there in run-level 3 and I see it in GDM but as soon as X is up it > does not work. I've edited XF86Config for keyboard type, changed > key-table to almost-everything-except-Klingon and its always th

Re: garbled locale

2002-10-05 Thread Havoc Pennington
Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I probably did that, sorry. Is there a simple way to make sure I write a > file as ISO-8859-1. > I guess you could recode-file from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1 ;-) (Seriously I think the way you would do this is to have your terminal in a Latin-1

Re: RH: Some user feedback

2002-10-05 Thread Havoc Pennington
Warren Togami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Havoc, is there any documentation of the syntax structure of these > .desktop files and how they are supposed to layout within the Red Hat > menu structure? Somewhere in xdg-list list archives, I guess. > Is there beta source code existing today of the

Re: Gnome menu edit

2002-10-11 Thread Havoc Pennington
Ajit George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Actually the menu editing feature is in GNOME2 and has been for some > time. At the time RH was releasing it was being fixed up and made more > robust. Which is why RH didn't package it. If you check the upstream > versions of GNOME2 you'l

Re: metacity window resize

2002-10-11 Thread Havoc Pennington
Ted Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Is there a FSG standard for this, or at least a proposal for a standard? > > I think it will be very hard to get a sufficient number of application > developers and ISVs all headed in the same direction unless there is a > published standard for this sort

Re: RH 8.0 font system

2002-10-11 Thread Havoc Pennington
Jacò Botha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Specifically I am trying to find out why the fonts appear so radically > different in Gnome (horrible) and KDE (beautiful) for all combinations of > anti-aliasing. > Maybe post some small screenshots of a word or two of text (using a fresh user account

Re: metacity window resize [OT rant]

2002-10-11 Thread Havoc Pennington
Ted Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. I see from reading http://www106.pair.com/rhp/free-software-ui.html > on your home page that you are strongly in favor or removing > preferences from software. Well, let's qualify that a bit. As I argue on that page, the question is not "prefs good"/"pr

Re: making webdav launchers on the desktop with Nautilus

2002-10-01 Thread Havoc Pennington
Jens Knutson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyone know how to create webdav launchers/shortcuts on the desktop in > Nautilus? I create the proper URI, but since it starts https:, > Nautilus tells my web browser to open the link instead of trying to do > it itself. > > Any help with this would be

Re: Metacity Themes

2002-10-01 Thread Havoc Pennington
Mark C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Is there an incompatibility between the version of Metacity in RH and > the official release? > As I have tried to install several themes from art.gnome.org and every > one fails to install. > > This used to work ages ago, so the only thing I presume is that

Re: garbled locale

2002-10-01 Thread Havoc Pennington
Emanuel Mair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, what do I have to do to get my Swedish characters back outside of > X/GNOME, and why does redhat-config-language think I only need Japanese? > That may mean you only have Japanese locale support installed; the installer should ask which languages to

Re: garbled locale

2002-10-01 Thread Havoc Pennington
Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there any "magic incantation" at all? > > I would think that, for instance, all lang'ified packages would need > to be replaced and /etc/sysconfig/i18n be updated. On one system I > had to add German and I used > > rpm -Uvh package.rpm --define

Re: Panel crash using Xinerama.... window borders stopped working too

2002-10-05 Thread Havoc Pennington
Heiko Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I can crash the panel, every time continuous crash, by placing it on the > right hand side of screen 0 (which is right of screen 1) and logging out > and them back in. I am running Xinerama with 2 videocards. The only way > to get out of this catch 22 is to

Re: making Galeon the default

2002-10-05 Thread Havoc Pennington
"Philip A. Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > This seems to work for the menus. However, evolution still insists on > starting mozilla when I click on a URL. There is a "Preferred > Applications" settings dialog found in the GNOME Control Center's Extras > list. In the "Preferred Applicat

Re: Gnome... ARGH!

2002-10-05 Thread Havoc Pennington
Gordon Messmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So what are the advantages of VTE? The big reason we use it is that it works in character sets other than ASCII. Zvt doesn't even work in Latin-1. VTE also uses the new font system and redraws more correctly (fewer bugs, no flicker). Havoc

Re: garbled locale

2002-10-05 Thread Havoc Pennington
Emanuel Mair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If I run something like gedit from a terminal and open a file > requester I get a message saying: "Gtk-Message: The filename > "someswedishcharacter.foo" could not be converted to UTF-8 (try to > set the environment variable G_BROKEN_FILENAMES): Invalid by

Re: garbled locale

2002-10-05 Thread Havoc Pennington
Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmm, just tested this with Danish. > > [root@llephaane kenneth]# locale | grep LANG > LANG=da_DK.UTF-8 > [root@llephaane kenneth]# touch pålægsbrød > [root@llephaane kenneth]# sh recode-file ISO-8859-1 UTF-8 pålægsbrød > [root@llephaane kenn

Re: Gnome... ARGH!

2002-10-05 Thread Havoc Pennington
Paul Gear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Its cut & paste seems a clunky, though. It used to be that you could > cut & paste newlines, but that doesn't seem to be the case now (at > least for lines that aren't full - haven't tried with others). Also, > you used to be able to single click anywhe

Re: Anyone seen my "Q" ??

2002-10-05 Thread Havoc Pennington
Olafur Sigurgeirsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You are so right Havoc...it was there :) > And that opens up another questionHow do you reset a Keyboard > Shortcut to be "Disable", and since we are on the subject, how do you > add new Action to the list ?? Adding a new action I'm not sure w

Re: save session question.

2002-10-06 Thread Havoc Pennington
Aaron Konstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Let me try one question at a time. Before 8.0 I could have an xterm open > when I log out, click save current setup and the xterm would be open when I > logged in again. Now I am told by the system that I can't do that. > Why has this changed? And what do

Re: RH: Some user feedback

2002-10-06 Thread Havoc Pennington
Gerry Tool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday 05 October 2002 01:58 pm, Bernd Kunze wrote: > > 2. The menu structure is driving me nuts. Some are in System Settings, > > others in Extras-System Settings. > > I strongly feel that the Extras menu has to go and the items that are in it > need

Re: RH: Some user feedback

2002-10-06 Thread Havoc Pennington
Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "System settings" > "More" > "Internet" > "More" > "Graphics" > "More" > > Much better IMO. > Yeah, certainly a popular suggestion. I don't have better ideas at the moment. ;-) It's easy enough to try this out, in applications.menu just take

Re: RH: Some user feedback

2002-10-07 Thread Havoc Pennington
Jason Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 01:55:21AM -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: > > > > The completely can-not-budge requirement here is only one web browser > > (or whatever) in the main menus for the default install. We need to > >

Re: RH: Some user feedback

2002-10-07 Thread Havoc Pennington
Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What happens with the OpenOffice.org apps? > > OpenOffice.org Writer isn't the best word for a Dane, and that is a > product name so we didn't translate it. > Don't get me started - the trademark rules say it has to be "OpenOffice.org" not

Re: features window managers should have

2002-10-08 Thread Havoc Pennington
James Ralston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 3. The ability to configure multiple workspaces, with feedback > when moving among them. I'm not sure what you mean by feedback. What I would mean by feedback is present in metacity. > 4. The ability to set up arbitrary shortcuts, inc

Re: features window managers should have

2002-10-08 Thread Havoc Pennington
Ted Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > From the above link: > > "Add some kind of mild "attraction" to window/screen edges, perhaps > only after a timeout." > > There's difference between edge resistance and edge attraction (ie > "magnatism"). In the first case the mouse has to be moved n pix

Re: metacity window resize

2002-10-08 Thread Havoc Pennington
John Coldrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 23:21, Jamie Athanassakis wrote: > > I use a sony vaio which has 2 button touchpad mouse. I know metacity > > allows you to resize a window interactivley but only with the MIDDLE > > mouse button (pressing both mouse buttons and the

Re: metacity window resize [OT rant]

2002-10-12 Thread Havoc Pennington
Ted Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > And I don't have a problem with adding keybindings for both lower > > window and vert/horz maximize. Those bugs are open on gnome.org. > > I saw that, but I haven't yet jumped into the fray. I'm not an active > Gnome developer, so I thought I would hang

Re: Gnome menu edit

2002-10-12 Thread Havoc Pennington
James Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:a > > Fair enough. Is there a date for when the facility will make it into > an update? It depends on how soon I can get it to work (I built new packages and they don't work for some reason), and how many security errata are clogging the QA pipeline. > So

Re: metacity window placement

2002-10-12 Thread Havoc Pennington
Mattias Dahlberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 10 Oct 2002, Havoc Pennington wrote: > > > No. CVS metacity has somewhat more robust placement, though. > > Is CVS metacity able to "remember window placement" as well? If not, is > that a planned feature

Re: RH 8.0 font system

2002-10-12 Thread Havoc Pennington
Jacò Botha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So my question should probably be rephrased to "Why does KDE use a different > rendering mechanism under VNC than under video?". > My guess is that the old code to fall back to core X fonts when the Xrender extension is missing is still in there. But thi

Re: Metacity dialog placement with Xinerama...

2002-10-12 Thread Havoc Pennington
Heiko Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anybody (Havoc?) know how to get metacity not to place the dialog > boxes directly in the middle of a two monitor setup in Xinerama?? It can > be really irritating Any way to tell it to popup in the middle of > screen 0 or 1??? This really seems li

Re: Gnome menu edit

2002-10-12 Thread Havoc Pennington
Peter Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > By the way: Are there plans to add to Metacity support for the third > mouse button as in sawfish, which opens a pop up applications menu (same > as the start button of the panel)? > As in Alt+F1? That's not really a window manager feature; if you want

Re: automake 1.4, 1.5, 1.6?

2002-10-14 Thread Havoc Pennington
Jerry Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was trying to build gspy and it has links to /usr/share/automake. > But I only have /usr/share/automake-1.4, /usr/share/automake-1.5, and > /usr/share/automake-1.6. > So I linked automake to automake-1.6 and that worked, but I am not sure > that was th

Re: Metacity dialog placement with Xinerama...

2002-10-14 Thread Havoc Pennington
Heiko Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >It should work with CVS version of metacity. There are a few multihead > >issues in 8.0 that are mostly sorted out in latest code. > > >Havoc > > Ok, so, how do I get the latest CVS version of metacity, and how do I > get to an .rpm once I get it, do you

Re: Making Xchat use .fonts RH8.0

2002-10-15 Thread Havoc Pennington
"Steven Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So I found a link that describes how to create a .fonts directory, > instructs you to put all of your .ttf fonts in there, restart the X > server and they will automatically be available to X applications > (with some caveats). > Can anyone point me in