Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-23 Thread David Durst
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Kevin McConnell wrote: > >> --- "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123" >> > I haven't been bitten by that one yet, but you'd be >> > surprised how many >> > sites use Javascript. Lynx doesn't handle that at >> > all. The Gnome >> > Accessibility Project is coming along,

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-23 Thread jdow
Ah yes, you are another friend restricted to lynx or flakey screen readers. Important things should be accessible to the greatest extent possible in text only modes as the most universally accessible mode. {^_^} (I'm vain enough I want EVERYONE to have access to my genius. {O,o} Ack! Plb

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-22 Thread William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Kevin McConnell wrote: > --- "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123" > > I haven't been bitten by that one yet, but you'd be > > surprised how many > > sites use Javascript. Lynx doesn't handle that at > > all. The Gnome > > Accessibility Project is coming along, so I s

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-19 Thread jdow
From: "Jesse Keating" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thursday 19 December 2002 07:35, Kevin McConnell uttered: > > But my point being that, we all know you wouldn't be > > very happy if you went and visited a site that you > > couldn't know what was going on simply because > > everything there was graph

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-19 Thread jdow
From: "Kevin McConnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --- "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123" > > I haven't been bitten by that one yet, but you'd be > > surprised how many > > sites use Javascript. Lynx doesn't handle that at > > all. The Gnome > > Accessibility Project is coming along, so I sh

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-19 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thursday 19 December 2002 07:35, Kevin McConnell uttered: > But my point being that, we all know you wouldn't be > very happy if you went and visited a site that you > couldn't know what was going on simply because > everything there was graphical. I'm an old schooler > who believes that the int

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-19 Thread Kevin McConnell
--- "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123" > I haven't been bitten by that one yet, but you'd be > surprised how many > sites use Javascript. Lynx doesn't handle that at > all. The Gnome > Accessibility Project is coming along, so I should > be OK with JS and > possibly Flash, eventually.

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-18 Thread William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Kevin McConnell wrote: > > --- jdow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just so long as your friends are nice enough people > > to code the > > sites so that the information content is available > > to those who > > do not have flash players. Like, I am sure my blind > > friend Jo

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-17 Thread Anthony Joseph Seward
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 10:27, Scott Kindley wrote: > They both work for me using flash6 > Did you ever have flash 4 or 5 installed? Tony -- Anthony Joseph Seward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-17 Thread Scott Kindley
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 12:14, Anthony Joseph Seward wrote: > I am getting crashes when I view either http://www.elpais.es/ or > http://www.lemonde.fr/ with the pluggin from Warren installed. Could > someone verify this please? I see the crashes with both > mozilla-1.0.1-26 and galeon-1.2.6-0.8.0.

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-17 Thread Anthony Joseph Seward
I am getting crashes when I view either http://www.elpais.es/ or http://www.lemonde.fr/ with the pluggin from Warren installed. Could someone verify this please? I see the crashes with both mozilla-1.0.1-26 and galeon-1.2.6-0.8.0. These were working OK with the old plugins that I had (4 and 5).

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-16 Thread Develop
Thank you for taking your time to package flash. Works great on my systems. Robert. Warren Togami wrote: http://macromedia.mplug.org Thursday (12/12/2002) Macromedia released Flash 6 for Linux x86. I have obtained permission from Macromedia to redistribute their plugin in Linux friendly ways.

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-16 Thread Kevin McConnell
--- David Durst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All I have to say on that matter is from what I hear > there has been > alot of accesibility work being done, for specific I > have not heard the > products. I would applaud their work if they had something for those using text to speech converters to

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-16 Thread Kevin McConnell
--- jdow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just so long as your friends are nice enough people > to code the > sites so that the information content is available > to those who > do not have flash players. Like, I am sure my blind > friend Joe > Lazarro would REALLY enjoy a commerce or corporate > site

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-16 Thread David Durst
> Just so long as your friends are nice enough people to code the > sites so that the information content is available to those who > do not have flash players. Like, I am sure my blind friend Joe > Lazarro would REALLY enjoy a commerce or corporate site that > bounces him if he doesn't have flash.

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-15 Thread jdow
From: "David Durst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hey I don't like the crap anymore than you. What I am saying is that > about 75% of my friends are web developers. Of as late most of the > requests the > have been getting are for full FLASH sites. :( Just so long as your friends are nice enough people

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-15 Thread toby
David Durst wrote: > > > On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 04:25, David Durst wrote: > >> > I guess flash can be useful for making kids web games, but I'd > >> rather see java games. Anyway, flash is one of the things that > >> annoys me most about the web. > >> > >> So sorry to hear that you hate flash so m

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-15 Thread David Durst
> On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 04:25, David Durst wrote: >> > I guess flash can be useful for making kids web games, but I'd >> rather see java games. Anyway, flash is one of the things that >> annoys me most about the web. >> >> So sorry to hear that you hate flash so much, but just to give you a >> hea

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-15 Thread Keith Winston
On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 04:25, David Durst wrote: > > I guess flash can be useful for making kids web games, but I'd rather > > see java games. Anyway, flash is one of the things that annoys me most > > about the web. > > So sorry to hear that you hate flash so much, but just to give you a heads >

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-15 Thread David Durst
> On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 01:01, Warren Togami wrote: > >> The format is "open" only if you sign an NDA to receive the >> specifications. If you read that page, you will see that they allow >> you to only make apps that output SWF files, not play SWF. > > And this is a good reason to not use or sup

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-14 Thread Warren Togami
John Kodis wrote: The format is "open" only if you sign an NDA to receive the specifications. If you read that page, you will see that they allow you to only make apps that output SWF files, not play SWF. There seems to be some ambiguity in the license. While they specifically allow you to

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-14 Thread John Kodis
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 08:01:50PM -1000, Warren Togami wrote: > Gordon Messmer wrote: > > >Flash 6 is an open, documented file format: > >http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/open/licensing/fileformat/faq.html > > > >Macromedia even suggests on the above page that you search > >sourceforge.ne

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-14 Thread Keith Winston
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 01:01, Warren Togami wrote: > The format is "open" only if you sign an NDA to receive the > specifications. If you read that page, you will see that they allow you > to only make apps that output SWF files, not play SWF. And this is a good reason to not use or support it.

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-14 Thread Markku Kolkka
Viestissä Lauantai 14. Joulukuuta 2002 01:12, Warren Togami kirjoitti: > Did you have CrossOver Plugin wine + Windows Flash plugin installed by > chance? No. > Have you installed any Flash plugins into ~/.mozilla/plugins? No. I did have flash_linux-5.0-50.i386.rpm from the "Multimedia and Office

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-13 Thread Warren Togami
Gordon Messmer wrote: No, Macromedia is still a proprietary company with plenty of intellectual property to protect. There are likely several patents including Sorenson video codec within the source code, making it impossible to open source. I've never heard that Sorenson or Quicktime were us

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 01:42, Warren Togami wrote: > David Durst wrote: > > Hm, this is interesting. > > I didn't hear that they had started work on the x86 plugin till last week. > > Is the source available? > > No, Macromedia is still a proprietary company with plenty of > intellectual p

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-13 Thread Warren Togami
Markku Kolkka wrote: Viestissä Perjantai 13. Joulukuuta 2002 20:42, Warren Togami kirjoitti: Try closing Mozilla completely (check ps aux to make sure all processes are gone), run setup again then restart mozilla. That help? No. However, I noticed that the plugin works if I run Mozilla as r

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-13 Thread Markku Kolkka
Viestissä Perjantai 13. Joulukuuta 2002 20:42, Warren Togami kirjoitti: > Try closing Mozilla completely (check ps aux to make sure all processes > are gone), run setup again then restart mozilla. > > That help? No. However, I noticed that the plugin works if I run Mozilla as root. It doesn't wo

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-13 Thread Warren Togami
Markku Kolkka wrote: I installed the plugin, but it doesn't appear in Mozilla's plugin list. I tried running /usr/lib/flash-plugin/setup according to the FAQ, but it didn't help. There were no error messages during installation or setup, rpm -V flash-plugin doesn't report any errors, and there

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-13 Thread Markku Kolkka
I installed the plugin, but it doesn't appear in Mozilla's plugin list. I tried running /usr/lib/flash-plugin/setup according to the FAQ, but it didn't help. There were no error messages during installation or setup, rpm -V flash-plugin doesn't report any errors, and there are symlinks in /usr/

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-13 Thread Warren Togami
David Durst wrote: Hm, this is interesting. I didn't hear that they had started work on the x86 plugin till last week. Is the source available? No, Macromedia is still a proprietary company with plenty of intellectual property to protect. There are likely several patents including Sor

Re: Macromedia Flash plugin 6 released for x86 Linux

2002-12-13 Thread David Durst
Hm, this is interesting. I didn't hear that they had started work on the x86 plugin till last week. Is the source available? Do they have a posting the site about the release? > http://macromedia.mplug.org > > Thursday (12/12/2002) Macromedia released Flash 6 for Linux x86. I have > obtain