Re: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows]

2003-03-29 Thread "Raúl D. Pittí Palma"
Ronald W. Heiby wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've noticed what may be a related problem. This has existed in the 7.x series, and I just replicated it under 8.0 (with all updates). My linux box has ext2 filesystems and fat32 filesystems. I have some of each shared via Samba.

Re: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows]

2003-03-28 Thread Ronald W. Heiby
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've noticed what may be a related problem. This has existed in the 7.x series, and I just replicated it under 8.0 (with all updates). My linux box has ext2 filesystems and fat32 filesystems. I have some of each shared via Samba. Within the linux box,

Re: SV: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows]

2003-03-27 Thread "Raúl D. Pittí Palma"
Nothing in the logs, when the machine is in "coma" it is completely dead, nothing on screen, no response from keyboard, cant even ping it. Haven't tried Memtest, and I just assumed that since everything else is working without any flaws, well not wsftp at the moment, it should be ok, no hangs in

SV: SV: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows]

2003-03-27 Thread Tomas Larsson
James McArthur > Skickat: den 28 mars 2003 01:57 > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ämne: Re: SV: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows] > > > Hi, > > Ah Ha! When my RTL based card locks up, it brings the whole > system down with it. The light on the switch star

Re: SV: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows]

2003-03-27 Thread James McArthur
from me are scanned with the latest updates of > Norton Antivirus 2K2. > > > -Ursprungligt meddelande- > > Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För James McArthur > > Skickat: den 28 mars 2003 01:08 > > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ämne

SV: SV: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows]

2003-03-27 Thread Tomas Larsson
> -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Jay Crews > Skickat: den 28 mars 2003 01:37 > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ämne: Re: SV: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows] > > > Tomas Larsson writes.

Re: SV: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows]

2003-03-27 Thread Jay Crews
Tomas Larsson writes > > > > > Is there anything in the logs?? Can you ssh/telnet to it from > > another machine?? Does the box pass memtest86?? This should > > be fixable if you want to. > > > Nothing in the logs, when the machine is in "coma" it is completely dead, And when you say, "

SV: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows]

2003-03-27 Thread Tomas Larsson
rån: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För James McArthur > Skickat: den 28 mars 2003 01:08 > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ämne: Re: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows] > > > Hi, > > On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 07:36, Tomas Larsson wrote: > &

SV: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows]

2003-03-27 Thread Tomas Larsson
> -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Tom Diehl > Skickat: den 28 mars 2003 00:52 > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ämne: Re: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows] > > > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Tomas

Re: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows]

2003-03-27 Thread James McArthur
Hi, On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 07:36, Tomas Larsson wrote: > Thing is that I've changed network cards cables etc. still the same problem. > There is nothing in the logs. The RH box just goes into coma without any > warning. > It was a 400 MB website, about 1100 files and 60 directories, that I tried >

Re: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows]

2003-03-27 Thread Tom Diehl
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Tomas Larsson wrote: > Thing is that I've changed network cards cables etc. still the same problem. > There is nothing in the logs. The RH box just goes into coma without any > warning. > It was a 400 MB website, about 1100 files and 60 directories, that I tried > to copy to t

SV: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows]

2003-03-27 Thread Tomas Larsson
s 2K2. > -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Dennis Gilmore > Skickat: den 28 mars 2003 00:28 > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ämne: Re: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows] > > > On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 08:06, T

Re: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows]

2003-03-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
ivirus 2K2. > > > -Ursprungligt meddelande- > > Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Jay Crews > > Skickat: den 27 mars 2003 22:53 > > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ämne: Re: SV: SV: Linux vs Windows > > > > > > Tomas L

Re: RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows]

2003-03-27 Thread Philip A. Chapman
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 16:06, Tomas Larsson wrote: > Thing is that I've changed network cards cables etc. still the same problem. > There is nothing in the logs. The RH box just goes into coma without any > warning. > It was a 400 MB website, about 1100 files and 60 directories, that I tried > to co

RH hangs on large filetransfers Was[ Linux vs Windows]

2003-03-27 Thread Tomas Larsson
gt; Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Jay Crews > Skickat: den 27 mars 2003 22:53 > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ämne: Re: SV: SV: Linux vs Windows > > > Tomas Larsson writes > > > > Well My encounter with RH8. > > > > PAN

Re: SV: SV: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-27 Thread Jay Crews
Tomas Larsson writes > > Well My encounter with RH8. > > PANIC Kernel!!! Psyche has detected a big file-transfer from the network. > Psyche needs to go into coma. Don't do it again because I cant handle it. > You have to reboot to wake me up. > > > Well,

SV: SV: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-27 Thread Tomas Larsson
ECTED] För Jay Crews > Skickat: den 27 mars 2003 20:02 > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ämne: Re: SV: Linux vs Windows > > > Taylor, ForrestX writes > > > > Tomas Larsson wrote: > > > Using both RH8 an XP AND very happy with both, and yes XP is > > >

Re: SV: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-27 Thread Jay Crews
Taylor, ForrestX writes > > Tomas Larsson wrote: > > Using both RH8 an XP AND very happy with both, and yes XP is extremely > > stable reboots only when someone manages to pull the plug. > > I must have a different version of XP, because mine reboots everytime > that I install a Windows upda

Re: SV: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-27 Thread Taylor, ForrestX
Tomas Larsson wrote: Using both RH8 an XP AND very happy with both, and yes XP is extremely stable reboots only when someone manages to pull the plug. I must have a different version of XP, because mine reboots everytime that I install a Windows update ;o) Forrest -- -- Psyche-list mailing list

RE: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Mirabella, Mathew J
Ok I have to revise some of my articulations on this issue. My first post was a bit rambelling, and was not as precise as it could be. To address a few points... >MS Windows is *perceived* as "more intuitive" is because there >are so many people who were already in contact with it I do actually a

Re: SV: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Joe Klemmer
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 16:43, Tomas Larsson wrote: > But what is "topical" > Surely a discussion of pros and cons between MS 2K/XP and RH8/Linux is > topical. > Or maybe the topic should be RH8 vs Win XP/2K. The list here is actually the RH 8 User Support list but it's unmoderated so, whil

SV: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Tomas Larsson
> -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Joe Klemmer > Skickat: den 26 mars 2003 21:50 > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ämne: Re: Linux vs Windows > /SNIP > But this is the RH 8 list and none of this is really topic

Re: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Joe Klemmer
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 13:09, Michael Smith wrote: > That's debatable. I'm in the middle of taking the MCSA, and let me tell > you, you just have to know where to get to the complexities. Most people > haven't even heard of Microsoft Management Console, the advanced > Registry Editor, etc. Microsof

Re[2]: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread ghhalley
I am sysadmin for Linux, Windows, and Apple systems. Its very wrong to say one is more or less complex. Apple and MS hide most of the complexity from the user, but in reality their codes are longer and more confusing/complex. Linux, in general, is simpler. Examples in mind including deleting pr

Re: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Michael Smith
hael Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@redhat.com con fecha 26/03/2003 > 07:09:16 p.m. > > Por favor, responda a [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Enviado por: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Destinatarios: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: > > Asunto: Re: Linux vs Windows > >

RE: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Pavel Rozenboim
> > in windows, graphics and sound are supported right away. > just install > > the drivers if you need to and often you don't have to even > do that... > > and it all works. I have heard of very few problems with > windows in the > > same way as those with red hat on this issue. > > S

Re: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread dballester
gards Michael Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@redhat.com con fecha 26/03/2003 07:09:16 p.m. Por favor, responda a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado por: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Destinatarios: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Asunto: Re: Linux vs Windows That's debatable. I'm in the middle of taking the

Re: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Javier Gostling
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 02:01:10PM +1000, Mirabella, Mathew J wrote: > I know that more immediate support with hardware is likely to be better > for windows because most hardware like sound cards etc are comercial in > nature, and thus usually come with windows drivers as a default. e.g. > creativ

Re: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Michael Smith
That's debatable. I'm in the middle of taking the MCSA, and let me tell you, you just have to know where to get to the complexities. Most people haven't even heard of Microsoft Management Console, the advanced Registry Editor, etc. Microsoft just keeps those complexities away from the general user.

RE: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Joe Klemmer
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Mirabella, Mathew J wrote: > and yes i agree that the linux net and web and ftp and networky stuff is far bettter > than windows as i eluded to in my post. Please wrap your lines. > And although i do agree that linux and unix systems are a bit more complex than >

Re: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Joe Klemmer
On 25 Mar 2003, Michael Smith wrote: > I think you made some very good points. I would only like to stress the > fact that: [...] > 2) linux has, and probably (even though we don't like to admit it) > always will be a more complex operating system. I don't know why anyone would not admit

Re: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Joe Klemmer
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Mirabella, Mathew J wrote: > This may not be a very structured and organised piece of prose on this > issue, but it includes all of what i essentially think on the topic. > Please correct me if i am wrong on any particular technical issue. This is a very interesting

Re: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Jack Bowling
** Reply to message from JD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Wed, 26 Mar 2003 05:55:54 -0800 > "Linux vs Windows" now is just about choosing between being a > rouge-American or a normal member of the world citizen. Ya know, I usually find Deb trolls in here amusing. But ones t

Re: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 23:22, Mirabella, Mathew J uttered: > Windows can learn from open source and linux / unix... but Unix and linux > sure can learn from the user interface issues of windows... Linux is ahead > on many important things... it just lacks the few things i mentioned in my > last p

Re: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread JD
and so on, and so on. "Linux vs Windows" now is just about choosing between being a rouge-American or a normal member of the world citizen. JD -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list

Re: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Keith Winston
Daniel T. Drea wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Keith Winston wrote: Windows, and you will lose more control of both as time goes on. You are also supporting a group of very unethical people, at least at the highest management levels, who are not concerne

Re: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Daniel T. Drea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Keith Winston wrote: > Windows, and you will lose more control of both as time goes on. You > are also supporting a group of very unethical people, at least at the > highest management levels, who are not concerned at all about y

Re: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-26 Thread Keith Winston
Mirabella, Mathew J wrote: What Windows lacks is the ability to configure everything... this is where linux and UNIX has it all over windows, but... you have to deal with it's complexities to do it. Things average people want to do are: editing and viewing documents of various types web browsing

RE: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-25 Thread Mirabella, Mathew J
ngs... it just lacks the few things i mentioned in my last post. Mat. -Original Message- From: Michael Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2003 6:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux vs Windows I think you made some very good points. I would only like

Re: Linux vs Windows

2003-03-25 Thread Michael Smith
I think you made some very good points. I would only like to stress the fact that: 1) a *nix environment is probably the _best_ web server out there... (not to mention the cheapest) 2) linux has, and probably (even though we don't like to admit it) always will be a more complex operating system.

Linux vs Windows

2003-03-25 Thread Mirabella, Mathew J
This may not be a very structured and organised piece of prose on this issue, but it includes all of what i essentially think on the topic. Please correct me if i am wrong on any particular technical issue. Windows and redhat might cost similar regarding the enterprise edition of redhat vs win