Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-09 Thread jdow
From: "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *i'm* the one who, on a regular basis, tees off on folks > who post in HTML or (my favorite pet peeve) use really > worthless, content-free subjects like "help", or "need help" > or "REALLY, REALLY, REALLY NEED HELP". > > i've worked hard to earn

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-09 Thread Stephen Carville
Don't feed the trolls. It only encourages them. On Saturday 08 March 2003 02:20 pm, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 04:37:56 -0500, John Lowell wrote: > > > Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > > >What's the question? Why do you see need to use option -j? > > > > > >Run "fsck /dev/xxx" an

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-09 Thread John Lowell
Robert P. J. Day wrote: then take your business there. how much of a no-brainer can that be? personally, you're really starting to grate on me because, frankly, being an abrasive, obnoxious presence on red hat mailing lists is *my* job. *i'm* the one who, on a regular basis, tees off on folks w

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-09 Thread John Nall
At 06:40 PM 3/8/2003 -0800, jdow wrote: I suggest that this individual is a troll and suitable for kill files. He's being added to mine forthwith. He appears illiterate enough to be adverse to reading man pages to determine the proper answers to questions even after he is told the appropriate man

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-09 Thread Christopher A. Williams
Craig, I've changed my mind... After seeing that he couldn't leave alone, I have to agree. ...With respect to the third link, John, while your head is up there, you might want to check for polyps. Chris On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 23:20, Craig White wrote: > In keeping with my earlier post, John, I a

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-09 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, John Lowell wrote: > ... its remarkable that so much has come out of a > simple request for an answer to a question on the e2fsck command. > Interestingly, I raised the very same question on another distro's > mailing list this afternoon, was answered promptly, courteously,

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread John Lowell
Craig White wrote: Dude - Eric Raymond's Guide to the Smart Way to Ask Questions (did you follow the link?) 1 section "dealing with rudeness" 1 section "on not reacting like a loser" a recommendation not to ask yes-or-no questions. and then there's... "There is an ancient and hallowed tradition: i

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread John Lowell
Tony Nugent wrote: John Lowell wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: /me kindly points you (John Lowell) at the unsubscribe address: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list Please enjoy the bliss you'll receive by not having any of us email you ever again. Promise me tha

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 23:56, John Lowell wrote: > I agree with you Chris, its remarkable that so much has come out of a > simple request for an answer to a question on the e2fsck command. > Interestingly, I raised the very same question on another distro's > mailing list this afternoon, was answ

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Tony Nugent
John Lowell wrote: > Jesse Keating wrote: > > >/me kindly points you (John Lowell) at the unsubscribe address: > > > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list > > > >Please enjoy the bliss you'll receive by not having any of us email you ever > >again. > > > > > > > Promise me that

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread John Lowell
Christopher A. Williams wrote: I've ignored this thread until now. Seems to me that others who have also commented that they reviewed this thread had also participated --and had also gotten maybe just a *little* testy... No?.. I don't know how such an argument could ensue over a fsck (...ing) com

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 23:11, John Lowell wrote: > Daniel T. Drea wrote: > > >> > >> > > > >Obviously, you don't know good help when you see it. You are now religated > >to the but-bucket. I do know good help when I see it, and on more > >occasions than I can remember Mike has been helpful to m

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread John Lowell
Jesse Keating wrote: /me kindly points you (John Lowell) at the unsubscribe address: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list Please enjoy the bliss you'll receive by not having any of us email you ever again. Promise me that you won't write again, Jesse? Please. John Lowell

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread John Lowell
Daniel T. Drea wrote: Obviously, you don't know good help when you see it. You are now religated to the but-bucket. I do know good help when I see it, and on more occasions than I can remember Mike has been helpful to me and many others, I will not tolerate the unwarranted abuse you are sujec

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Daniel T. Drea
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, John Lowell wrote: > Daniel T. Drea wrote: > > >This is pretty funny, he's done nothing except try to help you and your so > >hostile. If you expect better help than he's given you, you'd have to > >write the software yourself. > > > > > > > > Maybe you've gotten a little too u

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Dax Kelson
John, the reason why your post caused such a response is because mailing list etiquette dictates that you should do all that you can to help yourself before posting a message to a list that uses bandwidth, CPU, IO, memory, and brain cycles on likely hundreds if not thousands of computers and peopl

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 20:06, reg hughson wrote: > At least this thread has proven to be somewhat entertaining. You (John) > were wrong right from the beginning with your defensive attitude. Of all > of the lists I subscribe to, I would bet you've offended the most people > in the shortest period of

Last word. Was: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Steven W. Orr
My newest entry in my access file: From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REJECT 553 Fuck off spammer! -- -Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have - -happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ -Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Li

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread reg hughson
At least this thread has proven to be somewhat entertaining. You (John) were wrong right from the beginning with your defensive attitude. Of all of the lists I subscribe to, I would bet you've offended the most people in the shortest period of time. Lighten up for God's sake. On Sat, 2003-03-08

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Christopher A. Williams
I've ignored this thread until now. Seems to me that others who have also commented that they reviewed this thread had also participated --and had also gotten maybe just a *little* testy... No?.. I don't know how such an argument could ensue over a fsck (...ing) command. C'mon, guys - can't we al

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread jdow
I suggest that this individual is a troll and suitable for kill files. He's being added to mine forthwith. He appears illiterate enough to be adverse to reading man pages to determine the proper answers to questions even after he is told the appropriate man page. It is hard to believe anyone could

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread jdow
Now read the freaking man page to find out which form is suitable for your system in case they are not identical in meaning. Seriously, John, what is wrong with consulting the documentation? {^_-} - Original Message - From: "John Lowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Aaron Konstam wrote: > > >O

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Jesse Keating
On Saturday 08 March 2003 18:05, John Lowell uttered: > Interesting, jdow, but I rather saw him, and now you, as a bother. > Kindly never write me here again or I'll contact the list manager. /me kindly points you (John Lowell) at the unsubscribe address: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listin

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Justin Zygmont
> Interesting, jdow, but I rather saw him, and now you, as a bother. > Kindly never write me here again or I'll contact the list manager. > > John Lowell hi, you're not on dope or anything like that are you, urm, if I may ask. -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.r

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread John Lowell
jdow wrote: John, Michael is one of the helpful people on the list. If he says "read the man page" please take it seriously. The issue you are asking about is more complex than a simple answer can make it. The man page is as brief as you can get a full and complete answer. If it still leaves some

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread John Lowell
Daniel T. Drea wrote: This is pretty funny, he's done nothing except try to help you and your so hostile. If you expect better help than he's given you, you'd have to write the software yourself. Maybe you've gotten a little too used to taking just anything from people on lists of this kind to

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread John Lowell
Aaron Konstam wrote: Ok the command should be: e2fsck -p /dev/ or e2fsck -y /dev/ --- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University 715 Stadium Dr. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Many thanks for

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 04:37:56AM -0500, John Lowell wrote: > Michael Schwendt wrote: > > >What's the question? Why do you see need to use option -j? > > > >Run "fsck /dev/xxx" and see. Recent versions of e2fsprogs would hide the journal > >anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me see if I

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Daniel T. Drea
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, John Lowell wrote: > Michael Schwendt wrote: > > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 04:37:56 -0500, John Lowell wrote: > > > > > > > >>Michael Schwendt wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>What's the question? Why do you see need to use option -j

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread jdow
> I really don't want to hear from you again, Mr. Schwendt, and if I do > I'll take the matter to the people that run the list. I hope I make > myself absolutely clear. > > John Lowell John, Michael is one of the helpful people on the list. If he says "read the man page" please take it serio

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 05:33:51 -0500, John Lowell wrote: > I really don't want to hear from you again, Mr. Schwendt, and if I do > I'll take the matter to the people that run the list. I hope I make > myself absolutely clear. You're not in the positi

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread John Lowell
Michael Schwendt wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 04:37:56 -0500, John Lowell wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: What's the question? Why do you see need to use option -j? Run "fsck /dev/xxx" and see. Recent versions of e2fsprogs would hide the journa

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 04:37:56 -0500, John Lowell wrote: > Michael Schwendt wrote: > > >What's the question? Why do you see need to use option -j? > > > >Run "fsck /dev/xxx" and see. Recent versions of e2fsprogs would hide the journal > >anyway. > > >

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread John Lowell
Michael Schwendt wrote: What's the question? Why do you see need to use option -j? Run "fsck /dev/xxx" and see. Recent versions of e2fsprogs would hide the journal anyway. Let me see if I can be helpful to you here, Mr. Schwendt. The question initially and now has simply been whether or n

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 03:35:14 -0500, John Lowell wrote: > Dan Devine wrote: > > >The -j option indicates an "external journal location". > > > >I don't see that option in my desk reference, what does that do and > >wouldn't you need to indicate a

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread John Lowell
Dan Devine wrote: The -j option indicates an "external journal location". I don't see that option in my desk reference, what does that do and wouldn't you need to indicate a location where the journal is AND which device you want to operate on? Hi Dan, Your point is precisely what provo

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread John Lowell
Michael Schwendt wrote: Nah, come on. What answer do you expect? "man e2fsck" is your friend. A better answer than your's, I'm afraid, Mr. Schwendt, and that precisely because of the point Dan Devine raised in his very relevant message. Let me make myself clear to you, I don't come to this

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Dan Devine
The -j option indicates an "external journal location". I don't see that option in my desk reference, what does that do and wouldn't you need to indicate a location where the journal is AND which device you want to operate on? On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 22:30, John Lowell wrote: > If my memory s

Re: Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 01:30:43 -0500, John Lowell wrote: > If my memory serves me, and that's becoming more questionable as time > takes it's toll, after unmounting a device a file system check of ext3 > can be run with the following command, am i rig

Ext3 File System Check

2003-03-08 Thread John Lowell
If my memory serves me, and that's becoming more questionable as time takes it's toll, after unmounting a device a file system check of ext3 can be run with the following command, am i right? e2fsck -j /dev/ Something tells me that I might be wrong about the option. Regards to all. John L