Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-26 Thread Ryan Camick
On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 16:19, Thom Paine wrote: > I don't have, nor can I get dway because I'm in Canada. But everyone I > know has a DTV system. Sure you can get it in Canada. www.highspeedanywhere.com Find the Residential High Speed (Two-way Satellite) and note the Industry Canada fee. Must be

Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-24 Thread Thomas Dodd
jerry ely wrote: Due to the 'speed-of-light' thing, the culprit for the performance issue is TCP/IP. I had the privelage of speaking with an IBM genius in networking and he provided an easy explanation. TCP/IP uses 'sliding window' for flowcontrol. The window size can be up to 64k and varies depe

Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-24 Thread Miloslav Trmac
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 07:35:50PM -0400, jerry ely wrote: > Due to the 'speed-of-light' thing, the culprit for the performance issue is > TCP/IP. I had the privelage of speaking with an IBM genius in networking and > he provided an easy explanation. TCP/IP uses 'sliding window' for > flowcontrol.

Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-24 Thread Thom Paine
On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 21:12, Martin Stricker wrote: > > You are right, it's microwaves. Microwaves are electromagnetic waves, > just like visible light, and thus have the same speed as light. The > electromagnetic waves begin with low frequencies as radio waves, and > with increasing frequency yo

Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread Martin Stricker
Thom Paine wrote: > > On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 11:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The biggest problem with DirectWay is the speed of light. > I thought it was a microwave signal based? And it was spread out such > as not to fry people, and the dish collected enough signal to make a > data stream.

Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread jerry ely
tion, maybe using this would releive some of the perfoemance concerns experienced b y2 way sattelite communicationsIMHO Jerry - Original Message - From: "Thomas Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Re: Direct

Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread Thom Paine
On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 14:34, Tom Diehl wrote: > FWIW I have been told that inside the Directway box is an ethernet to USB > converter. I have no first hand knowledge of this but the information > came to me from someone who I trust. Neat, maybe one could modify this a little to work with Linux an

Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread Thomas Dodd
Neal D. Becker wrote: I believe you will find that this is a marketing decision. I am speaking strickly for myself on this, not as a representative of Hughes. My understanding is the software for DirectWay and StarBand has some code to work around response times, and some caching code to speed

Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread Thomas Dodd
Thom Paine wrote: On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 11:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The biggest problem with DirectWay is the speed of light. The minimum one-way distance to a geosynchronous satellite is still 23,500 miles, which is about 1/8 light-second. That means the absolute minimum time required for a

Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread Thomas Dodd
Tom Diehl wrote: On 23 Oct 2002, Thom Paine wrote: My parents live in North Bay, Ontario. They managed to get a second phone line strictly for internet. I've been looking at the Bell option for a while but still decided against it. My mom has never had high speed, so she really doesn't know wh

RE: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread Tom Diehl
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Cochran Robert L (NO) wrote: > Doesn't Microsoft have a significant investment stake in DirectWay? Or > DirectTV? I do not know but I have Direct TV DSL and they support Linux. I have been very suprised that when I have a problem and tell them that the OS is Linux that they d

Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread Tom Diehl
On 23 Oct 2002, Thom Paine wrote: > My parents live in North Bay, Ontario. They managed to get a second > phone line strictly for internet. I've been looking at the Bell option > for a while but still decided against it. My mom has never had high > speed, so she really doesn't know what she is mis

RE: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread dsavage
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002 Robert L. Cochran wrote: > Doesn't Microsoft have a significant investment stake in DirectWay? Or > DirectTV? Indirectly. I believe Microsoft is a minority shareholder of Hughes Electronics (parent to DirecTV), but I don't know how large their share is. IIRC, this in

RE: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread Cochran Robert L (NO)
Title: RE: Direct TV Satellite connections Doesn't Microsoft have a significant investment stake in DirectWay? Or DirectTV? Thanks   Robert L. Cochran -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:24 AM To: [

Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread dsavage
> I believe you will find that this is a marketing decision. I am > speaking strickly for myself on this, not as a representative of > Hughes. Neal, Undoubtedly. In a perfect world marketeers would work with engineers to make the right product decisions. In the real world, however, most of the m

Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread Thom Paine
On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 11:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Thom, > > Here in the Lower 48 DirectWay is a pure satellite system, unlike its hybrid > predecessor which required a land line modem for all outbound traffic. > > The biggest problem with DirectWay is the speed of light. The minimum one

Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread Neal D. Becker
I believe you will find that this is a marketing decision. I am speaking strickly for myself on this, not as a representative of Hughes.

Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread dsavage
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002 Thom Paine wrote: > If it is similar to the one Bell offers here in Canada, you get a card > that plugs into the computer. There is special software that brings the > card online and reconfigures your browsing. You still need a phone line > and a dial-up isp. Any outb

RE: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread Mike Waite
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Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread Mike Chambers
- Original Message - From: "Mike Waite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: RE: Direct TV Satellite connections > nope, > > it does not work yet with linux. > > DirecPC is planning to rele

Re: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread Thom Paine
On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 08:51, Mike Chambers wrote: > Has anyone used this with linux yet? Friend has Direct TV and is getting > the internet connection associated with it. I will be the one helping to > get it setup for linux if possible and not sure if it's supported, or how it > connects to it y

RE: Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread Mike Waite
@;redhat.com]On Behalf Of Mike Chambers Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:52 AM To: RedHat - Psyche Subject: Direct TV Satellite connections Has anyone used this with linux yet? Friend has Direct TV and is getting the internet connection associated with it. I will be the one helping to get it setup

Direct TV Satellite connections

2002-10-23 Thread Mike Chambers
Has anyone used this with linux yet? Friend has Direct TV and is getting the internet connection associated with it. I will be the one helping to get it setup for linux if possible and not sure if it's supported, or how it connects to it yet until he tells me. Anyone had luck with this yet or he