Any pitfalls, tips etc.
TIA,
Mike
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I have a VFP app that is run over the internet via RDP. (Long story...)
It is in a multitude of branches, and all things work fine in all but one.
When my app is run local, I have code to pick a printer based on the
kind of report. ie work tickets go one place, financial reports to
another, etc.
I have a table, with two indexes. (In a cdx file)
I need to know the new place in the table when the order changes.
ie if it is the second record in the table in sort order #1, what is it
in order #2.
Let say that in order 1 it is the 2nd record, but in order #2 it would
be the fifth record.
Ho
I too, found this to be a pain, so I don't use Checkbox labels. Rather I
have objecxts on the form, the checkbox and the label that goes with it.
I can place the label anywhere I want then. With my base class checkbox,
I set autosize=.t. and no captions.
A bit of a kludge, but it works!
HTH,
Mi
I have an invoice table, which is related to a detail table.
The invoice table is also related to the order entry table.
The order entry table is linked to to tables one is bill codes, the
other is,dept codes
Finally I have a table that is the history of the work being done,
linked to dept codes.
Can you use a program like colorpic http://www.iconico.com/*colorpic*
It is a freebie that will return the rgb for any colour on the screen.
Mike
On 28/11/2011 3:26 PM, Francis I. Coppage, Jr. wrote:
> I have a client that doesn't like my bland grey/silver background.
>
> They have seen and want w
I want to set a filter to a logical field. The field name is active.
If the user, wants to see active records only,
I am using the following snippet.
set filter to active=.t.
similarly if they want to see inactive records, I use
set filter to active =.f.
When the user would like to see both sets
Unfortunately, it is not tied to a grid. just a form.
Mike
On 06/12/2011 5:10 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote:
> Michael Savage wrote on 2011-12-06:
>> I want to set a filter to a logical field. The field name is active.
>>
>> If the user, wants to see active records only
gt; As I suspected. Active is apparently a keyword.
>
> http://gorila.netlab.cz/_vfpkw_A.html
>
> John
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Michael Savage
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 4:23 PM
&g
F. even
> if it's not the first physical record.
>
> Fred
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Michael Savage wrote:
>
>> I want to set a filter to a logical field. The field name is active.
>>
>> If the user, wants to see active records only
sorry about the confusion... i know firstrecord is an active one... yet
the list still appears to be set to inactive.
mike
On 07/12/2011 11:04 AM, Peter Cushing wrote:
> Michael Savage wrote:
>>
>> When the user would like to see both sets together,
>> I use
>> set
I needed to do the same thing. I basically had to copy it to a dbf...
and I added that to the project.
Mike
On 08/12/2011 9:00 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:
> In a compiled application is there any way of accessing the .mnx dbf file
> which is in effect a vfp menu. I have tried accessing the .mnx file
I have the following sql to fill the array
sele tagname, surname,position,volid ;
from volunteers ;
where active .t. ;
order by tagname ;
into array thisform.mvr1.lstSource.listVals
Now I set the row source etc for the listbox
WITH thisform.mvr1.lstSource
.rowsource='this.listvals'
I went looking for ODBC drivers but could not find any. Has anybody got
a way to read them from VFP. The write part would be nice, but not
essential...
TIA,
Mike
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Thanks, I look into that. I also noted that it has some export
features... I'll investigate further.
Mike
On 16/12/2011 12:07 PM, Jarvis, Matthew wrote:
>> I went looking for ODBC drivers but could not find any. Has anybody
> got
>> a way to read them from VFP. The write part would be nice, but n
I've seen code samples for gmail, outlook, outlook express, etc, but
nothing for thunderbird.
Any ideas, how I would do it?
Mike
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I have never created a shortcut menu before.
I want to implement one that does the Cop and Paste from an edit box to
another field.
ie, highlight a section of the edit box, right click in the edit box, up
pops the menu, user selects copy, moves to other field and presses paste.
Is this even pos
The reason is, I see all of these methods for sending email. Without
knowing what email client they use, how can I know which method to use?
Mike
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Does anybody remember who, and where I could get it?
TIA,
Mike
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I notice that the container class does not have a release method. I
would like to clear it, however I do not want to use clear all.
TIA
Mike
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I have a main screen that works great when single user, but the minute a
second user opens the same screen, it slows down.. i.e. from seconds to
minutes to open.
VFP 9 application. Will send more details tomorrow. I am writing this up as
I leave. Gigsbit network.
Just looking for some ideas ab
best wishes for a speedy recovery.
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019, 10:20 AM Ed Leafe, wrote:
> Ok, this is a stretch, but this past Monday I had my left knee replaced.
> It's a long story [0], but I got a kick out of the fact that my surgeon's
> name was Fox! [1]
>
> So while I'm not running like a Fox y
I have standard directory structure that I use. I can run a seetup program
when I'm in the root directory of a project. Is there way to know what the
last project project was, and therefore change to it automatically and then
run my setup routine.
TIA,
Mike
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excellent idea ill check it out.
On Wed., Feb. 5, 2020, 11:31 a.m. Eric Selje, wrote:
> I would think that'd be available in FoxUser.dbf since the most recent
> projects show up in the MRU list.
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 3:01 PM Michael Savage
> wrote:
>
> &
just wondering.im retired so i was wondering how i did some things
Mike
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what version? mine is v8
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 5:20 PM Mike wrote:
> It has for me.
>
> Mike
>
> Michael Savage wrote:
> > just wondering.im retired so i was wondering how i did some things
> > Mike
> >
> >
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the alphabetizen of the list is mostly a pain , putting the folders in with
the files. putting the folders then the files after them is what is there a
way to get that back?
or is there a different explorer that would work?
Mike
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On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 3:30 PM Gianni Turri wrote:
> On the View ribbon select Group by (None)
>
> Gianni
>
> On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 08:08:37 -0400, Michael Savage
> wrote:
>
> the alphabetizen of the list is mostly a pain , putting the folders in with
> the file
if i store the filename in a field how would i show the image on the
finished label
mike
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I've read recently that Google maps wi have a new feature telling you where
are close business with disabilities noted. i.e. restaurants that are wheel
chair accessible. anyone else heard about this. how does one ask Google
about thi gs like this?
Mike
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> --
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> alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
>
> On Fri, 5 Jun 2020, at 6:24 AM, Michael Savage wrote:
> > I've read recently that Google maps wi have a new feature telling you
> where
> >
Good point. How do I redirect it?
Thanks,
Mike
On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 9:08 PM, <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
> Since CodePlex is shutting down soon, you'll probably have to adjust your
> Thor IDE's if you haven't already.
>
> https://www.screencast.com/t/W6wOW2Kb
>
>
[exc
I want to play gain. How can I download the latest project files. I'm
looking at OOP menu, THOR etc.
Mike
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Gain... Should have been again. Touch typing on a smart phone.
Thanks
Mike
On 9 Mar 2018 9:34 pm, "Kurt at VR-FX" wrote:
Play what? What is "Gain"???
On 3/9/2018 8:13 PM, Michael Savage wrote:
> I want to play gain. How can I download the latest project files. I&
Can I use Thor tools from github? if so how?
TIA,
Mike
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hanks
Mike
On 10 Mar 2018 3:57 am, "Jürgen Wondzinski" wrote:
Not sure how difficult it is to recognize that green button on the right
side, with caption = "Clone or download"
wOOdy
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Von: ProFox Im Auftrag von Michael Savage
Gesendet: S
Save the date format... change it to ymd... import... change it back. ie
cdFormat=set('Date')
set date to ymd
*- do import here
set date to &cdFormat
Should work.
Mike
On 21/02/2012 7:36 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
> I've got a text file I need to import. It's format is -MM-DD
> HH
I don't know how long, but.
Using fgets, you can get each line. Parse that, and place into a vfp
table/cursor.
Once you have a large group,. under the 2G barrier, post to mySQL.
Zap the VFP table/cursor.
Pick up your low level file read, and repeat.
Might work?
Mike
On 21/02/2012 11:37 PM, MB So
I don't know what is going on since sometime yesterday.
I have been trying to open the class browser... It says invalid path
name error 202. When I type ?_browser it shows up as NULL
If I set it via _obrowser=home()+'browser.app', it doesn't stick. What
happens is, when the first time I call it
If it is a registry corruption, how would I fix that...
I can just delete foxuser files to fix the other correct?
Mike
On 09/03/2012 12:52 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote:
> Michael Savage wrote on 2012-03-09:
>> I don't know what is going on since sometime yesterday.
>>
>>
If I try to start a session by double clicking on a project file in
explorer, I get a file not found error and the project will not open.
Also, once I do set the path to, the directory of the project and its
sub-directories, it opens fine. It has also happened that my
executables, if they do n
I have Win 7/64 bit and I have a 7 port USB hub attached and it works fine.
Mike
On 23/03/2012 3:38 PM, Lew Schwartz wrote:
> New machine = new headaches.
>
> So under W7/64 ... I'm only seeing usb 3.0 hubs with a max of 4 ports.
> Is this a band width limitation or what?
>
[excessive quoting remo
I read this with interest... How did you implement the email portion?
Also does anyone done SMS from inside VFP?
Mike
On 26/03/2012 5:48 PM, Jack Skelley wrote:
> Good Afternoon:
> First, thanks to all that responded. I appreciate all the input.
> Christof, thanks for such a complete explanation.
What I am trying to do is in a for loop create a bunch of objects
sort of like this
for x=1 to 4
obj='obj'+transform[x]
how do i create each object?
form.addobject(obj,'class')
with .obj
set properties here
endwith
endfor
The container for these objects are a form... I want to p
perty not found"
On 27/03/2012 3:13 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote:
> Michael Savage wrote:
>
>> What I am trying to do is in a for loop create a bunch of objects
>> sort of like this
>>
>> for x=1 to 4
>> obj='obj'+transform[x]
>> h
chkname
> * set properties here
>.BackStyle = 0
>.fontsize = 8
>.Value = 1
>.Visible = .t.
> ENDWITH
>ENDFOR
>
> Fred
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Michael Savage wrote:
>
>> What I am trying to do is in a for loo
Any ideas?
Mike
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Yes, for the builder, but we use genmenu for the creator.
Mike
On 03/04/2012 6:16 PM, Alan Lukachko wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I thought you were using genmenux.
>
> Al
>
> Now my vfp 9 IDE is giving me grief with the menu builder (genmenu.prg).
> When I try to run it, I get the following error " Must Spe
ofoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]
> On Behalf Of Tracy Pearson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:31 PM
>
> Michael Savage wrote on 2012-04-03:
>> Now my vfp 9 IDE is giving me grief with the menu builder
> (genmenu.prg).
>> When I try to run it, I get the following error "
Has anybody done this?
Can it be done?
Any tips on how?
Mike
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Thanks to all who responded.
Garry, your code works with my parameters.
Thank you.
Now, how do I read email using thunderbird client?
Can I do it with cdo, mapi or some other product.
All this from inside VFP of course.
TIA,
Mike
On 08/04/2012 2:09 PM, Garry Bettle wrote:
> TRY
>LOCAL lcSc
Where would I find a good explanation of the two methods?
I have code like this.
lActive is a property on a form... I have attached only the assign
method to it.
I call the assign method by changing the value of lActive, correct?
Is this the right way? I want to change screen back colour based
This am it was obvious... I was returning from the routines prior to
setting the colour! DUH... insert expletives here (@#$$##@#@)
I'm sorry if I wasted anybodies time on this one. Next time I'll sleep
on it first!
Thanks to all who responded.
Mike
On 11/04/2012 1:28 AM, Jean MAURICE wrote:
>
After setting a filter, how do I determine the number of records that
meet the condition
I have a table that has 60 records. I have a field called active which
is logical
If let say 45 records are true, and I set the filter to active=.t. How
do I know how many records would be available (45 in t
I have a table that has an image in it... It shows fine on the form...
However how can I make a grid column add an image?
I have tried the following:
WITH .COLUMN1
.REMOVEOBJECT("Text1")
.CONTROLSOURCE = "testmenu.barimage"
.WIDTH = 26
.Header1.CAPTION = ""
It must be Monday... I cannot seem to find the article on Craig's site.
Mike
On 16/04/2012 1:26 AM, Christof Wollenhaupt wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> for images you either have to add an image control for every image and
> select them with DynamicCurrentControl, or you use the BackStyle_Access
> trick th
>
> -Original Message-
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> Michael Savage
> Sent: 16 April 2012 12:45
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: images in grids
>
> It must be Monday... I cannot seem to find the article o
Is there a way?
TIA,
Mike
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u with the "@". If it is a property, you'll either need to pass
> the object and then reference the array on the passed object, or you'll
> have to copy the array to a local variable and pass that variable with the
> "@".
>
> Fred
>
>
> On Mon, A
When I try to modify a form...It states that the sct file is not an
object file. I can open the file as a table, browse to the record, with
out any errors at all.
This all started with my code disappearing from my added methods. Yet if
I examined the forms methods in the browse, all my methods
on opening the form.:-(
However... no code in the methods of any of the objects, procedures
etc...:-(
But my procedure file saved the day... Just cut and pasted the code in
the respective methods.
Form works again.
Thanks to all, for your help,
Mike
On 01/05/2012 4:38 PM, Michael Savage wrote
;
> Ken
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Michael Savage wrote:
>> I just created a form, from the foxpro base class.
>> When I try to save it, I am getting a record out of range error.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
[excessive quoting removed by server]
_
of stuff in the (way)
> past with success.
>
> Ken
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Michael Savage wrote:
>> Sorry about that...
>> This what I did...
>> Removed all properties I added, commented every method in the form. Made
>> no difference!
>&g
Yes. I created a base form _frm in a library called classes.
Mike
On 07/05/2012 2:22 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote:
> hope you subclassed the base classes before doing it!
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Michael Savage wrote:
>>> I think I'm struck recreating
Sergey Berezniker has a lot of stuff about using what comes with windows
to work with gmail, yahoo, etc.
http://www.berezniker.com/content/pages/visual-foxpro
Also Craig Boyd, has a lot of stuff in his blog...
http://www.sweetpotatosoftware.com/spsblog/default.aspx
and Anatoly Moglevels at his s
Just some idea percolating in my head... If a grid cannot be put there,
what about a list box. I've mastered how to put specialized text boxes,
and combos in a grid.
Mike
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Tried dragging and dropping, it complained...
Mike
On 19/05/2012 8:43 PM, M Jarvis wrote:
> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Michael Savage wrote:
>> Just some idea percolating in my head... If a grid cannot be put there,
>> what about a list box. I've mastered how to put sp
ure to make the rowheight of the containing grid big
> enough to see it. Don't forget to make it the Column's .CurrentControl.,
> and the .Sparse to .f. if you want to see it for each row.
>
> Fred
>
>
> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Michael Savage wrote:
>
>
I have 2 databases that I wish to compare the tables.
The database can have tables with the same name, however they will be in
different directories.
When I try to open the second table I get this error "file in use"
I need to compare old to new. There are no errors, when I try to
compare, tab
oops no... I gave you the wrong expression there.
Mike
On 22/05/2012 3:37 PM, Richard Kaye wrote:
> IF FILE(lcSource)
> USE (lcSource) IN SELECT([source]) ALIAS source
> endif
>
> IF FILE(lcDestination)
> USE (lcDestination) IN SELECT([destination]) ALIAS destination
> ENDIF
_
Can I see your example as well?
msavag...@yahoo.ca
TIA,
Mike
On 25/05/2012 6:01 AM, IOAN-LIVIU SARA wrote:
> Hello,
>
> There are many options to print data grid:
>
> 1.Export your data into a cursor and then make a report with the data and
> print report.
>
> 2.Export your data into a curso
I too have similar story, but not as bad, but just as annoying. It
involved a life insurance policy.
The automated phone service is hell on earth, how ever the human factor
can be even worse. After being send around in circles, I decided I
needed help. When I got the operator, she sent me to the
In all my apps I have a screen that mimics the command window. Only when
I login, is it visible. I can then RDP into the client, run the app.
login as myself and make any changes necessary.
Mike
On 30/07/2012 6:21 AM, Allen wrote:
> Hi gang
> I'm a bit of a novice on VPN. I connect to a VPN and
I have some code in a grid's AfterRowColChange method to call a method
on the form for some on the spot validation.
When I activate the grid for editing, it is normally at the top.
I pick the row I want, and prior to moving, it runs the code in the
AfterRowColChange.
How do I get the validation
n Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Michael Savage wrote:
>
>> I have some code in a grid's AfterRowColChange method to call a method
>> on the form for some on the spot validation.
>>
>> When I activate the grid for editing, it is normally at the top.
>> I pic
21, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Fred Taylor wrote:
>
>> Do you have any code in any of the text boxes, headers, columns, grid
>> events/methods? That may be causing strangeness in the normal flow of the
>> events.
>>
>> Wait a minute, you said toolbar. That can also impact
ect row.
>
> Fred
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Michael Savage wrote:
>
>> That is exactly what is happening.. If the before value... issue you
>> mention. Where should I put my validation code, so that when I click on
>> the check box column, it goes to
extra properties/methods from the original.
When I try to drop a check box on the grid, I get the error, "Cannot add
this object to grid."
So what did I forget?
TIA,
Mike
On 22/08/2012 3:52 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote:
> Michael Savage wrote on 2012-08-22:
>> I know how to add a c
I have a number of custom scripts, and commands that i have added to the
Intellisense dbf.
ie I type CO press space expands to createobject('')
For example, if I type retrun, it converts it to RETURN.
I would like to do similar with thisfrom, converting it to THISFORM
The records contents for
Well, guess what I retyped it in and now it works Go figure. Another
issue, is there a way to eat the space after the .
right now if i type thisfrom, it translates to THISFORM. It would
be nice if it stopped at the . instead of making me backspace.
TIA,
Mike
On 25/08/2010 11:29 AM, Michael
I guess I'm getting old.
How do I show the first value in a combo box, by default. Does it need
to be bound to something?? or can I just show the first value somehow?
I know I've did this before, but I can't seem to remember...
Mike
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clears up the issue.
Thanks,
Mike
On 25/08/2010 12:40 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote:
> Michael Savage wrote on 2010-08-25:
>> Well, guess what I retyped it in and now it works Go figure.
>> Another issue, is there a way to eat the space after the .
>> right now if i type thisf
Thanks big time.
Mike
On 25/08/2010 12:27 PM, Rafael Copquin wrote:
>put this line of code in the init event of the combobox
>
> this.listindex = 1
>
> Rafael Copquin
>
>
> El 25/08/2010 12:57, Michael Savage escribió:
>> I guess I'm getting old.
>>
&g
this thisform.property not thisform. property.
>>
>> Hope this clears up the issue.
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>>
>> On 25/08/2010 12:40 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote:
>>> Michael Savage wrote on 2010-08-25:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to do si
course is not
correct. The space between the . and SomeProperty is what I wish to
eliminate.
Thanks for your help.
Mike
On 26/08/2010 8:17 AM, Tracy Pearson wrote:
> On Thu, August 26, 2010 6:21 am, Michael Savage wrote:
>> In the record itself it is the same as the retrun entry (reme
It is an annoyance, not a killer... it is a PITA like set step, I've
turned off the auto fill as I'm always typing set step on on, if you
know what I mean :)
Again, thanks for all of your assistance,
Mike
On 26/08/2010 8:32 AM, Tracy Pearson wrote:
> On Thu, August 26, 2010 8:2
THISFORM~, or THISFORM.~, i still get the space
Also, hitting the . does not cause the transformation, only hitting the
space does it.
TIA,
Mike
On 26/08/2010 10:55 AM, Tracy Pearson wrote:
> Michael Savage wrote on 2010-08-26:
>> It is an annoyance, not a killer... it is a PITA like
>> From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-
>> boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Savage
>> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:22 AM
>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>> Subject: Re: INTELLISENSE
>>
>> I tried changing to your settings and it
Simple question:
I have a grid, two columns.
1 - Reg Hours
2 - Reg Pay
The rate of Pay is stored in the Employee Table
I would like to enter in the Regular Hours and automatically fill in the
Reg Pay (ie Reg Hours * Pay Rate)
I tried the following code in the BeforeRowColChange or the After
Ev
column etc to no avail. The only way
for it to appear is to go to the cell and move in/out of it.
TIA,
Mike
On 26/08/2010 4:59 PM, Sytze de Boer wrote:
> Thisform.refresh
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Michael Savage wrote:
>
>> Simple question:
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x27;s a volume discount % based on qty, and populate the DISC
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> thisform.refresh
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> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Vincent Teachoutwrote:
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Here is a snippet of test code to print some tickets.
CREATE CURSOR tickets(ticket i(4))
SELECT tickets
counter=1
FOR m.i=1 TO 500
APPEND BLANK
replace ticket WITH m.i
ENDFOR
GO top
SELECT tickets
LABEL FORM ticketlbl preview
The field ticket is on the label, the rest of it is an i
No that's not it... I examine the cursor tickets afterwards and the
field ticket has numbers from 1 to 500
Thanks,
Mike
On 27/08/2010 9:16 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Michael Savage wrote:
>> Here is a snippet of test code to print some tick
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> Subject: Re: VFP9 9.0 - Label files
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> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Michael Savage wrote:
>> Here is a snippet of test code
The problem was with the labels Data Environment. There was a table in
it, 75 records and no field called ticket in it. I don't remember adding
anything to the data environment, but...
That was it.
Another gotcha!
Mike
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Look at the ICASE command, easier to read and debug than nested IIF's.
That with SetAll, does neat things.
Mike
On 22/09/2010 12:48 PM, Tina Currie wrote:
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> screen. They put in the criteria and it selects to
I had to do something similar and using VFP 9 and some code from Cathy
Poutney, I was able to create a 2 up form. The footer of the form had a
mailing label in the middle of it so the report was not a simple double
the records of the cursor.
Mike
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I've setup a backup of my machine to a terabyte NAS, but I would like
to backup my files to a directory on this drive. This is because, I
would like to backup my wife's computer to another directory on the same
drive, etc.
Is it possible? Or is there a better solution than the backup wizard?
You know how when you fill up at your gas bar, you can get your gas via,
placing your credit/debit card in the pump., pick what you want and it
dispenses your gas? It also interfaces to the POS.
Well, because I've interfaced some weird things in the past, I've been
contacted with an opportunity
Oops Spent my life calling a liquid gas... Silly people us North
Americans :)
Mike
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