[pfx] Re: [RFC, sketch] IPv6 only trust of mail network

2024-10-15 Thread r.barclay--- via Postfix-users
Hi Nico, I'm a bit worried about offering/selling IPv6-only "email" services to customers, fully independent of your web of trust idea: A large fraction of the SME (small and medium sized enterprises) and public service operators, whose networks I know from supporting some business-related sof

[pfx] Re: [RFC, sketch] IPv6 only trust of mail network

2024-10-15 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-users
Dnia 15.10.2024 o godz. 18:28:37 Nico Schottelius via Postfix-users pisze: > > > Your comparison to IPv6 vs IPv4 isn't very good, as everybody tries to do > > their best to level the barrier between IPv6 and IPv4, not strenghten > > it. > > tbh, I think this is only true to a small degree for DS-

[pfx] Re: Stop OS enumeration

2024-10-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
On 15.10.24 16:03, Paul Fowler via Postfix-users wrote: Are there best practices for avoid OS username enumeration on a mail relay? Or is it something that maybe I've misconfigured? E.g. the nmap smtp-enum-users script shows some default users. Host is up (0.13s latency). PORT STATE SERVICE 2

[pfx] Re: Stop OS enumeration

2024-10-15 Thread Serhii via Postfix-users
I have checked this script and the simplest thing you can do is to delay rejection of invalid RCPT TO to DATA or END-OF-DATA. In this case, nmap will output all usernames it uses to check, making this info completely useless for potential attacker. On 10/15/24 15:03, Paul Fowler via Postfix-us

[pfx] Re: Stop OS enumeration

2024-10-15 Thread Bill Cole via Postfix-users
On 2024-10-15 at 11:03:13 UTC-0400 (Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:03:13 +0100) Paul Fowler via Postfix-users is rumored to have said: Hi, Are there best practices for avoid OS username enumeration on a mail relay? I'm surprised it works at all against Postfix... Or is it something that maybe I've m

[pfx] Re: subnets restrictions for specific address

2024-10-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
On 11.10.24 20:57, Adam Weremczuk via Postfix-users wrote: Is it possible to only allow certain subnets (LAN and VPN in my case) to send to a specific email address? Postfix can see the IP address or sender's username (if SASL is used). Ideally, all other sources should be silently dropped.

[pfx] Re: [RFC, sketch] IPv6 only trust of mail network

2024-10-15 Thread Nico Schottelius via Postfix-users
Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-users writes: > Dnia 15.10.2024 o godz. 12:36:12 Nico Schottelius via Postfix-users pisze: >> >> You got a point there, there would be a barrier between classic email >> and "secure email" (or whatever term comes to one's mind). >> >> Actually a bit similar as the split

[pfx] Re: [RFC, sketch] IPv6 only trust of mail network

2024-10-15 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-users
Dnia 15.10.2024 o godz. 12:36:12 Nico Schottelius via Postfix-users pisze: > > You got a point there, there would be a barrier between classic email > and "secure email" (or whatever term comes to one's mind). > > Actually a bit similar as the split between the IPv6 and IPv4 world - > hence my ar

[pfx] Re: [RFC, sketch] IPv6 only trust of mail network

2024-10-15 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-users
Dnia 15.10.2024 o godz. 15:51:13 Gary R. Schmidt via Postfix-users pisze: > > Maybe lobby the ITU to have a standard (or whatever) created? ITU already created a standard for e-mail long ago. It's called X.400. Wasn't too widely adopted. I'm not sure if anybody is still using this. -- Regards,

[pfx] Re: Stop OS enumeration

2024-10-15 Thread Serhii via Postfix-users
On 10/15/24 16:52, Bill Cole via Postfix-users wrote: Unless you've intentionally enabled EXPN in your config, you probably have not done anything really wrong but not all defaults are ideal. There are some non-defaults which will break SOME enumeration attempts: main.cf: smtpd_reject_unlist

[pfx] Re: Stop OS enumeration

2024-10-15 Thread Bill Cole via Postfix-users
On 2024-10-15 at 13:02:02 UTC-0400 (Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:02:02 +) Serhii via Postfix-users is rumored to have said: On 10/15/24 16:52, Bill Cole via Postfix-users wrote: Unless you've intentionally enabled EXPN in your config, you probably have not done anything really wrong but not all de

[pfx] Stop OS enumeration

2024-10-15 Thread Paul Fowler via Postfix-users
Hi, Are there best practices for avoid OS username enumeration on a mail relay? Or is it something that maybe I've misconfigured? E.g. the nmap smtp-enum-users script shows some default users. Host is up (0.13s latency). PORT STATE SERVICE 25/tcp open smtp | smtp-enum-users: | root |_ admi

[pfx] Re: [RFC, sketch] IPv6 only trust of mail network

2024-10-15 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Nico Schottelius via Postfix-users: > > Wietse Venema via Postfix-users writes: > > > The nice part is that trust is decentralized. The bad part is that > > decentralized trust does not scale globally. It might work on a > > small scale of a few hundred participants. Email is much bigger. > > A

[pfx] Postfix in containers/kubernetes

2024-10-15 Thread Nico Schottelius via Postfix-users
Hello fellow postfix users, how do you currently run postfix in containers? As far as I can see there is no official image out there, just a number of people who published their own. If I was to start building an image, I'd likely do something like this: [0]

[pfx] Re: [RFC, sketch] IPv6 only trust of mail network

2024-10-15 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
Gary R. Schmidt via Postfix-users wrote in : |On 15/10/2024 14:36, Nico Schottelius via Postfix-users wrote: |> |> Good morning, |> |> Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-users writes: |> |>> Dnia 14.10.2024 o godz. 13:03:48 Nico Schottelius via Postfix-users \ |>> pisze: |>>> |>>> In a nutshe