[pfx] Enough! ("Variable" message_size_limit?)

2024-07-13 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
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[pfx] Re: "Variable" message_size_limit?

2024-07-13 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users wrote in <20240713195449.kkT1qOkd@steffen%sdaoden.eu>: And then, in short. Isn't it extremely unkind. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks

[pfx] Re: "Variable" message_size_limit?

2024-07-13 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
postfix-users@postfix.org wrote in : |On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 07:10:41PM +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: |> postfix-users@postfix.org wrote in |> : |>|On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 01:54:38AM +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: |> ... |>|No, there is no scenario in which no limit is better than an exp

[pfx] Re: "Variable" message_size_limit?

2024-07-12 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 07:10:41PM +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > postfix-users@postfix.org wrote in > : > |On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 01:54:38AM +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > ... > |No, there is no scenario in which no limit is better than an explicit > |maximum. > | > |>|> Letting aside

[pfx] Re: "Variable" message_size_limit?

2024-07-12 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
postfix-users@postfix.org wrote in : |On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 01:54:38AM +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: ... |No, there is no scenario in which no limit is better than an explicit |maximum. | |>|> Letting aside the "extended MAIL" client command that i never have |>|> seen, what i would hope

[pfx] Re: "Variable" message_size_limit?

2024-07-11 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 01:54:38AM +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > |> I have a problem in that I would like several senders to be able > |> to send larger messages. > | > |You may as well advertise the largest supported size, it is better > |better than advertising just "SIZE", because clien

[pfx] Re: "Variable" message_size_limit?

2024-07-11 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
postfix-users@postfix.org wrote in : |On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 07:44:05PM +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-u\ |sers wrote: |> Well, i do not know, .. but i have |> |> message_size_limit = 50 | |Wow, that's rather restrictive in age when disk capacities are st

[pfx] Re: "Variable" message_size_limit?

2024-07-10 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 07:44:05PM +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users wrote: > Well, i do not know, .. but i have > > message_size_limit = 50 Wow, that's rather restrictive in age when disk capacities are starting to be measured in 10s of terabytes, while the ma

[pfx] Re: "Variable" message_size_limit?

2024-07-10 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
is useful. |but you'd still have to configure message_size_limit as the maximal |upperbound of the allowed message sizes. I surely want this. ..in this context i reread RFC 9422 "The LIMITS SMTP Service Extension" from this year and saw the enormous S: 250-SIZE 10

[pfx] Re: "Variable" message_size_limit?

2024-07-10 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
E announcement with smtpd_discard_ehlo_keywords = size, silent_discard but you'd still have to configure message_size_limit as the maximal upperbound of the allowed message sizes. Wietse ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsu

[pfx] Re: "Variable" message_size_limit?

2024-07-10 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote in <4wk63t2dvkzj...@spike.porcupine.org>: |The Postfix message size limit is an MTA property, not something |that varies with the sender. Or client. Or recipient address. If |you want to allow a larger size, increase message_size_limit, and |use p

[pfx] Re: "Variable" message_size_limit?

2024-07-10 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
The Postfix message size limit is an MTA property, not something that varies with the sender. Or client. Or recipient address. If you want to allow a larger size, increase message_size_limit, and use postfwd or the like to enforce a lower limit in smtpd_end_of_data_restrictions. In the polocy

[pfx] "Variable" message_size_limit?

2024-07-10 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
Hello. Well, i do not know, .. but i have message_size_limit = 50 which postfix transforms to RFC 1870 250-SIZE 50 (Btw, does the client part of RFC 1870 actually exist in practice? I cannot recall to have seen it. Does postfix log such client declarations? Would not think it

Re: message_size_limit documentation

2021-12-23 Thread Wietse Venema
a simple explanation, but didn't come up > with anything I particularly liked. I think it's correct that there's a hole > in the documentation, but I don't have a good recommendation on how to fill > it. In Postfix 3.7 I have updated the text for message_size_limi

Re: message_size_limit documentation

2021-12-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, December 23, 2021 3:51:57 PM EST Wietse Venema wrote: > Scott Kitterman: > > Currently, postconf.5 has this to say about message_size_limit: > > > > message_size_limit (default: 1024) > > > > The maximal size in bytes of a message, inclu

Re: message_size_limit documentation

2021-12-23 Thread Wietse Venema
Scott Kitterman: > Currently, postconf.5 has this to say about message_size_limit: > > message_size_limit (default: 1024) > > The maximal size in bytes of a message, including envelope information. > > Note: be careful when making changes. Excessively small values

message_size_limit documentation

2021-12-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
Currently, postconf.5 has this to say about message_size_limit: message_size_limit (default: 1024) The maximal size in bytes of a message, including envelope information. Note: be careful when making changes. Excessively small values will result in the loss of non-delivery

Re: different message_size_limit per smtpd (solved)

2019-11-20 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
hose limits cannot be larger than the limit that is >>> enforced by the cleanup daemon. >> >> How do you set a different limit in cleanup then? Or do you set >> message_size_limit to the maximum size for submission and then set a >> separate limit for smtpd?

Re: different message_size_limit per smtpd (solved)

2019-11-20 Thread A. Schulze
is >> enforced by the cleanup daemon. > > How do you set a different limit in cleanup then? Or do you set > message_size_limit to the maximum size for submission and then set a separate > limit for smtpd? How would you do that? > > main.cf: >message_size_limit=4000

Re: different message_size_limit per smtpd

2019-11-20 Thread @lbutlr
On 20 Nov 2019, at 08:16, Wietse Venema wrote: > A. Schulze: >> My goal is to allow different message size on MX and submission. >> As message_size_limit is a cleanup option, this is my (non working) setup >> based on http://www.postfix.org/BUILTIN_FILTER_README.html#mx_s

Re: different message_size_limit per smtpd

2019-11-20 Thread Wietse Venema
A. Schulze: > > Hello, > > My goal is to allow different message size on MX and submission. > As message_size_limit is a cleanup option, this is my (non working) setup > based on http://www.postfix.org/BUILTIN_FILTER_README.html#mx_submission The SMTP daemon also enforces the

different message_size_limit per smtpd

2019-11-20 Thread A. Schulze
Hello, My goal is to allow different message size on MX and submission. As message_size_limit is a cleanup option, this is my (non working) setup based on http://www.postfix.org/BUILTIN_FILTER_README.html#mx_submission main.cf message_size_limit = 512 master.cf # define a

Re: message_size_limit, queue_minfree, and mail spool not on root directory

2019-09-12 Thread Wietse Venema
W. Michael Petullo: > The OpenWrt patch hard codes fsspace("/overlay", &fsbuf), because > OpenWrt installations often make use of an overlay filesystems, mounted at > "/overlay". This makes sense in some cases, but obviously not when the > mail queue exists on a big, separate disk. Lesson learned:

Re: message_size_limit, queue_minfree, and mail spool not on root directory

2019-09-11 Thread W. Michael Petullo
P >>>server to decide if it will accept any mail at all. >>> >>>By default, the Postfix SMTP server rejects MAIL FROM commands when >>> the >>>amount of free space is less than 1.5*$message_size_limit (Postfix >>&

Re: message_size_limit, queue_minfree, and mail spool not on root directory

2019-09-11 Thread Wietse Venema
MTP > >server to decide if it will accept any mail at all. > > > >By default, the Postfix SMTP server rejects MAIL FROM commands when > > the > >amount of free space is less than 1.5*$message_size_limit (Postfix > > ver- > >

Re: message_size_limit, queue_minfree, and mail spool not on root directory

2019-09-10 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Sep 10, 2019, at 4:46 PM, W. Michael Petullo wrote: > > However, it seems that the capacity of my root mount has some bearing > on the evaluation of Postfix's message_size_limit and queue_minfree. I > am getting "insufficient system storage" errors despite havi

Re: message_size_limit, queue_minfree, and mail spool not on root directory

2019-09-10 Thread W. Michael Petullo
t;> However, it seems that the capacity of my root mount has some bearing >> on the evaluation of Postfix's message_size_limit and queue_minfree. I >> am getting "insufficient system storage" errors despite having enough >> space in /mnt/xvdb. I have much less space

Re: message_size_limit, queue_minfree, and mail spool not on root directory

2019-09-10 Thread Wietse Venema
wever, it seems that the capacity of my root mount has some bearing > on the evaluation of Postfix's message_size_limit and queue_minfree. I > am getting "insufficient system storage" errors despite having enough > space in /mnt/xvdb. I have much less space available on /. > &g

message_size_limit, queue_minfree, and mail spool not on root directory

2019-09-10 Thread W. Michael Petullo
bearing on the evaluation of Postfix's message_size_limit and queue_minfree. I am getting "insufficient system storage" errors despite having enough space in /mnt/xvdb. I have much less space available on /. I found some relevant functions in Postfix: fsspace() and smtpd_check_queue().

Re: message_size_limit

2017-11-27 Thread Wietse Venema
Bastien Durel: > Hello, I have 2 questions about message_size_limit : > - is there a value meaning "unlimited ?" Since when do computers have unlimited disk space? > - can it be configured with a table, so it may differ from account to > account ? You can enforce sender

message_size_limit

2017-11-27 Thread Bastien Durel
Hello, I have 2 questions about message_size_limit : - is there a value meaning "unlimited ?" - can it be configured with a table, so it may differ from account to account ? Thanks, -- Bastien

Re: message_size_limit - how to configure on multiple instances ?

2017-04-01 Thread Zalezny Niezalezny
thank You all :) 30 mar 2017 21:47 "Viktor Dukhovni" napisał(a): > > > On Mar 30, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Zalezny Niezalezny < > zalezny.niezale...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > # postconf -d | grep message > > The "postconf -d" command returns compiled-in defaults. > For your actual settings, try "p

Re: message_size_limit - how to configure on multiple instances ?

2017-03-30 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Mar 30, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Zalezny Niezalezny > wrote: > > # postconf -d | grep message The "postconf -d" command returns compiled-in defaults. For your actual settings, try "postconf", either with no options or as "postconf -n" for just non-default settings. See postconf(1) for details.

Re: message_size_limit - how to configure on multiple instances ?

2017-03-30 Thread Wietse Venema
postconf -c /path/to/config/dir message_size_limit

message_size_limit - how to configure on multiple instances ?

2017-03-30 Thread Zalezny Niezalezny
- massmailing y /etc/postfix postfix-mail massmailing y /etc/postfix-mail This is configured in /etc/postfix/main.cf [root@unixsmtp05 opt]# cat /etc/postfix/main.cf | grep ^messag message_size_limit = 3072 [root@unixsmtp05 opt]# Postconf still keeping default

Re: Effects of very large message_size_limit?

2016-09-16 Thread @lbutlr
On Thu Sep 15 2016 14:00:46 mro...@insiberia.net said: > > But can anyone answer my question - what factors should I consider when > increasing the limit in the 30-50MB range (or higher)? Are there drawbacks to > doing this? The main factor is that the limit used by most everyone is ab

Re: Effects of very large message_size_limit?

2016-09-15 Thread Wietse Venema
7;m wondering what the downside of setting a large > >> >> message_size_limit are? > >> >> > >> >> By "large" I mean 30MB, 40MB, 50MB > >> >> > >> >> I think sendmail has a default of no restriction for message size - > >> >>

Re: Effects of very large message_size_limit?

2016-09-15 Thread mrobti
On 2016-09-15 13:55, wie...@porcupine.org wrote: mro...@insiberia.net: On 2016-09-14 23:34, Robert Schetterer wrote: > Am 15.09.2016 um 07:19 schrieb mro...@insiberia.net: >> Hi, I'm wondering what the downside of setting a large >> message_size_limit are? >> >&

Re: Effects of very large message_size_limit?

2016-09-15 Thread Wietse Venema
mro...@insiberia.net: > On 2016-09-14 23:34, Robert Schetterer wrote: > > Am 15.09.2016 um 07:19 schrieb mro...@insiberia.net: > >> Hi, I'm wondering what the downside of setting a large > >> message_size_limit are? > >> > >> By "large&quo

Re: Effects of very large message_size_limit?

2016-09-15 Thread mrobti
On 2016-09-14 23:34, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 15.09.2016 um 07:19 schrieb mro...@insiberia.net: Hi, I'm wondering what the downside of setting a large message_size_limit are? By "large" I mean 30MB, 40MB, 50MB I think sendmail has a default of no restriction for message size

Re: Effects of very large message_size_limit?

2016-09-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2016-09-15 07:19, mro...@insiberia.net wrote: Hi, I'm wondering what the downside of setting a large message_size_limit are? By "large" I mean 30MB, 40MB, 50MB I think sendmail has a default of no restriction for message size - that seems crazy, but maybe I don't under

Re: Effects of very large message_size_limit?

2016-09-14 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 15.09.2016 um 07:19 schrieb mro...@insiberia.net: > Hi, I'm wondering what the downside of setting a large > message_size_limit are? > > By "large" I mean 30MB, 40MB, 50MB > > I think sendmail has a default of no restriction for message size - that > seems

Effects of very large message_size_limit?

2016-09-14 Thread mrobti
Hi, I'm wondering what the downside of setting a large message_size_limit are? By "large" I mean 30MB, 40MB, 50MB I think sendmail has a default of no restriction for message size - that seems crazy, but maybe I don't understand the risks well enough.

Re: Postfix message_size_limit

2016-03-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Daniel Wasilewski: > root@vps1:~# postconf -d | grep size_limit Wietse: > Where did you get the "postconf -d" from? If it is from a website > then I would like to get it fixed. Daniel Wasilewski: > I seem it on many forums. > > Last one is on: > https://www.howtoforge.com/community/threads/postf

Re: Postfix message_size_limit

2016-03-20 Thread Daniel Wasilewski
I seem it on many forums. Last one is on: https://www.howtoforge.com/community/threads/postfix-says-message-size-exceeds-fixed-limit.1325/ But after Christian K. email i look closer and in same subject is explanation postconf -n and -d same like in man postfix. Problem solved. Best regards D

Re: Postfix message_size_limit

2016-03-19 Thread Wietse Venema
>root@vps1:~# postconf -d | grep size_limit Where did you get the "postconf -d" from? If it is from a website then I would like to get it fixed. Wietse

Re: Postfix message_size_limit

2016-03-19 Thread Christian Kivalo
mailbox_size_limit=0 >root@vps1:~# postconf -e message_size_limit=0 >root@vps1:~# /etc/init.d/postfix restart >[ ok ] Stopping Postfix Mail Transport Agent: postfix. >[ ok ] Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent: postfix. >root@vps1:~# postconf -d | grep size_limit >body_ch

Postfix message_size_limit

2016-03-19 Thread Daniel Wasilewski
Hi, At the beginning it's my first email on mailing list, so if I does wrong please forgive me. Is somebody can explain why postfix still using default values ? root@vps1:~# postconf -e mailbox_size_limit=0 root@vps1:~# postconf -e message_size_limit=0 root@vps1:~# /etc/init.d/po

RE: message_size_limit versus prepended header

2015-10-30 Thread Kevin Miller
ix-us...@postfix.org [mailto:owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] On Behalf Of Wietse Venema Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 5:04 AM To: Postfix users Subject: Re: message_size_limit versus prepended header martijn.list: [ Charset windows-1252 converted... ] > On 10/30/2015 12:56 PM, Jeroen Scheerd

Re: message_size_limit versus prepended header

2015-10-30 Thread Wietse Venema
martijn.list: [ Charset windows-1252 converted... ] > On 10/30/2015 12:56 PM, Jeroen Scheerder wrote: > > Quoth Jeroen Scheerder (30 Oct 2015, 12:46): > > > >> That would result in a > >> > >> 250-SIZE 1024 > >> > >> helo message, *and* a true size limit of 10239918. > > > > I obviously omi

Re: message_size_limit versus prepended header

2015-10-30 Thread martijn.list
ps > further (cleanup). It's not just my little header, the additional > 600 bytes of extra bookkeeping should also be subtracted from the > message_size_limit in the "250-SIZE" banner line. > > But that "250-SIZE" just reports the configured message_si

Re: message_size_limit versus prepended header

2015-10-30 Thread Wietse Venema
martijn.list: > > This got me thinking. Would it be possible to have > > > > message_size_limit = 1024 > > > > but have my smtps/submission services announce slightly less: > > > > 250-SIZE 10239918 > > I think you can override the

Re: message_size_limit versus prepended header

2015-10-30 Thread martijn.list
nyway, this is how I preemptively struck out >against having to insert > foolish disclaimers into message bodies.) > > My message_size_limit is set: > > message_size_limit = 1024 > > The main smtp as well as the smtps/submiss

message_size_limit versus prepended header

2015-10-30 Thread Jeroen Scheerder
olish disclaimers into message bodies.) My message_size_limit is set: message_size_limit = 1024 The main smtp as well as the smtps/submission services report that size after the EHLO: 250-SIZE 1024 Sane clients respect that size limit and refuse to send messages exceedi

Re: logging when message_size_limit is exceeded

2014-06-25 Thread Wietse Venema
smtpd_delay_reject applies only to the configurable policies. smtpd_delay_reject does not apply to invalid SMTP commands such as syntax errors, parameter errors such as SIZE, commands out of order, and the like. Wietse

Re: logging when message_size_limit is exceeded

2014-06-24 Thread btb
ul detail in the process of associating reports >> from end users with this event. > > There is no sender and there is no recipient. Postfix rejects the > MAIL FROM command. thanks for this. i wrongly assumed this event occurred after message_size_limit bytes had been transmitted.

Re: logging when message_size_limit is exceeded

2014-06-24 Thread Wietse Venema
btb: > Jun 24 11:20:21 mta postfix/postscreen[5758]: CONNECT from > [173.201.193.182]:45771 to [10.3.70.5]:25 > Jun 24 11:20:21 mta postfix/postscreen[5758]: PASS OLD [173.201.193.182]:45771 > Jun 24 11:20:21 mta postfix/smtpd[7066]: connect from > p3plsmtp18-01-2.prod.phx3.secureserver.net[173.2

logging when message_size_limit is exceeded

2014-06-24 Thread btb
hi- when message_size_limit is exceeded, i see the following logs: Jun 24 11:20:21 mta postfix/postscreen[5758]: CONNECT from [173.201.193.182]:45771 to [10.3.70.5]:25 Jun 24 11:20:21 mta postfix/postscreen[5758]: PASS OLD [173.201.193.182]:45771 Jun 24 11:20:21 mta postfix/smtpd[7066]: connect

Re: value of zero not documented for message_size_limit

2014-04-11 Thread Wietse Venema
icitly states "[...] or zero (no limit).", the doc for > >> message_size_limit > >> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#message_size_limit > >> doesn't mention that it's possible to turn off the limit by setting this > >> parameter to zero. Shouldn

Re: value of zero not documented for message_size_limit

2014-04-11 Thread Rick Zeman
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:14 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: > Markus Sch?nhaber: >> Hi, >> >> while the documentation for mailbox_size_limit >> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#mailbox_size_limit >> explicitly states "[...] or zero (no limit)."

Re: value of zero not documented for message_size_limit

2014-04-11 Thread Markus Schönhaber
11.04.2014 13:14, Wietse Venema: > Markus Sch?nhaber: >> Hi, >> >> while the documentation for mailbox_size_limit >> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#mailbox_size_limit >> explicitly states "[...] or zero (no limit).", the doc for >> messag

Re: value of zero not documented for message_size_limit

2014-04-11 Thread Wietse Venema
Markus Sch?nhaber: > Hi, > > while the documentation for mailbox_size_limit > http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#mailbox_size_limit > explicitly states "[...] or zero (no limit).", the doc for > message_size_limit > http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#messa

value of zero not documented for message_size_limit

2014-04-11 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Hi, while the documentation for mailbox_size_limit http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#mailbox_size_limit explicitly states "[...] or zero (no limit).", the doc for message_size_limit http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#message_size_limit doesn't mention that it's poss

Re: message_size_limit

2014-02-15 Thread Grant
>> Is message_size_limit still valid? All of the references I can find >> to it online are very old. Is there another postfix directive I >> should use to set the maximum upload size for roundcube? > > Postfix configuration parameters don't capriciously disappear.

Re: message_size_limit

2014-02-13 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 05:58:20PM -0800, Grant wrote: > Is message_size_limit still valid? All of the references I can find > to it online are very old. Is there another postfix directive I > should use to set the maximum upload size for roundcube? Postfix configuration paramet

Re: message_size_limit

2014-02-13 Thread Noel Jones
On 2/13/2014 7:58 PM, Grant wrote: > Is message_size_limit still valid? All of the references I can find > to it online are very old. Is there another postfix directive I > should use to set the maximum upload size for roundcube? > > - Grant > Yes, it's still vali

message_size_limit

2014-02-13 Thread Grant
Is message_size_limit still valid? All of the references I can find to it online are very old. Is there another postfix directive I should use to set the maximum upload size for roundcube? - Grant

Re: message_size_limit weirdness

2013-12-07 Thread LuKreme
On 06 Dec 2013, at 17:21 , Jose Borges Ferreira wrote: > I've setup a Postfix like this, having on the submission port a bigger > value than the message_size_limit specified in main.cf > > main.cf > message_size_limit = 1000 > > master.cf >

Re: message_size_limit weirdness

2013-12-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Jose Borges Ferreira: > Hi! > > I've setup a Postfix like this, having on the submission port a bigger > value than the message_size_limit specified in main.cf > > main.cf > message_size_limit = 1000 > > master.cf > smtp inet n - n -

message_size_limit weirdness

2013-12-06 Thread Jose Borges Ferreira
Hi! I've setup a Postfix like this, having on the submission port a bigger value than the message_size_limit specified in main.cf main.cf message_size_limit = 1000 master.cf smtp inet n - n - - smtpd submission inet n - n - -

Re: message_size_limit and attachment size

2013-06-06 Thread LuKreme
On 06 Jun 2013, at 06:40 , Raphael Bauduin wrote: > Hi, > > I have message_size_limit set at the default value: > # postconf | grep message_size_limit > message_size_limit = 1024 > > I create a file to attach by: > # dd if=/dev/urandom of=/tmp/75 bs=1024 count=7

Re: message_size_limit and attachment size

2013-06-06 Thread Raphael Bauduin
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Geoff Shang wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jun 2013, Raphael Bauduin wrote: > > Why is there a 2Mb+ difference between the message_size_limit value and >> the >> attachment size accepted? (I don't think the envelope can take 2Mb...) >>

Re: message_size_limit and attachment size

2013-06-06 Thread Geoff Shang
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013, Raphael Bauduin wrote: Why is there a 2Mb+ difference between the message_size_limit value and the attachment size accepted? (I don't think the envelope can take 2Mb...) It doesn't. But an encoded attachment does take up quite a deal more space than the origina

message_size_limit and attachment size

2013-06-06 Thread Raphael Bauduin
Hi, I have message_size_limit set at the default value: # postconf | grep message_size_limit message_size_limit = 1024 I create a file to attach by: # dd if=/dev/urandom of=/tmp/75 bs=1024 count=7500 and then try to send it with: # echo 'test 75' | biabam /tmp/75 -s tes

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-26 Thread Nicolas Hahn
It's true I don't have your experience as you are the postfix coders. But it's also true you don't know what can be my expericence. Considering your political answers since the beginning, embarassing for who? You're right that's enough. I'm going to answer you in private. Envoyé de mon iPad Le

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Nicolas HAHN
> sorry, but after following the thread you are not qualified > enough to judge design-patterns of a software you do not > understand enough I agree totally on that. That's why I write in the users mailing list, not in the developpers mailing list. To stop this thread that is borring for everybo

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Nicolas HAHN
You're right that's enough and I'll answer you in private. Wietse Venema a écrit : > Nicolas HAHN: >> The "archietcture" is not a good excuse for me, I'm sorry. As a >> coder, allowing a software to start despite the fact there is a >> FATAL is a total non-sens. And saying finally that is just a

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.04.2013 19:45, schrieb Nicolas HAHN: > The "archietcture" is not a good excuse for me, I'm sorry. As a coder well, that's the difference between "coder" and "delevoper" a "coder" writes something which works for now and every few years all is thrown away because the architecture and softw

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Wietse Venema
Nicolas HAHN: > The "archietcture" is not a good excuse for me, I'm sorry. As a > coder, allowing a software to start despite the fact there is a > FATAL is a total non-sens. And saying finally that is just a daemon > which will not run but the others will, I really don't know how > to take it...

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:45:52PM +0200, Nicolas HAHN wrote: > The "archietcture" is not a good excuse for me, I'm sorry. You don't yet known enough about Postfix to appreciate the answer, this is not your fault, but the design is fine. -- Viktor.

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Nicolas HAHN
0:00 iccpfxor04 postfix/local[9370]: >> fatal: main.cf configuration error: mailbox_size_limit is smaller >> than message_size_limit > > Here, local(8) is having a fatal error. This error occurs whenever > local (and probably virtual(8) as well) is invoked for delivery. > Conversely, t

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread /dev/rob0
:04:38.005665+00:00 iccpfxor04 postfix/local[9370]: > fatal: main.cf configuration error: mailbox_size_limit is smaller > than message_size_limit Here, local(8) is having a fatal error. This error occurs whenever local (and probably virtual(8) as well) is invoked for delivery. Conversely,

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Nicolas HAHN
Yea. Thanks, i've seen it the first time you posted it. But that's not for this reason I'll change my mind about this. BR. nicolas Wietse Venema a écrit : > Nicolas HAHN: >> What I consider just abnormal as already written is that for me >> (so it's my opinion), Postfix should refuse to start

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Wietse Venema
Nicolas HAHN: > What I consider just abnormal as already written is that for me > (so it's my opinion), Postfix should refuse to start when it detects > a fatal about a configuration issue in the config files. But it > starts any way and display each minute the fatal in the log file. If you think

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Nicolas HAHN
ion error: mailbox_size_limit is smaller than message_size_limit 2013-04-24T10:04:39.006185+00:00 iccpfxor04 postfix/master[26402]: warning: process /usr/libexec/postfix/local pid 9370 exit status 1 2013-04-24T10:04:39.006209+00:00 iccpfxor04 postfix/master[26402]: warning: /usr/libexec/postfix/local: bad comman

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 04:47:26PM +0200, Nicolas HAHN wrote: > This is a reply to myself because I'm reviewing the way it works. > > > Yes, but if I'm right, the log message is emitted at the time there > > is an e-mail processed (by postfix/local for my issue). > > In fact, the fatal is writt

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Nicolas HAHN
This is a reply to myself because I'm reviewing the way it works. > Yes, but if I'm right, the log message is emitted at the time there > is an e-mail processed (by postfix/local for my issue). In fact, the fatal is written in the logs each minute and 1 second for this issue in my case by the

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Wietse Venema
me it is started > or its configuration is reloaded, and REFUSE to start because of > "fatal: main.cf configuration error: mailbox_size_limit is smaller > than message_size_limit". > > Don't you think? If you think about duplicating all configuration tests that are inside P

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Nicolas HAHN
This story also makes me think, suddenly, that I should integrate in my Log Search Tool a feature allowing real time fatal error catching (and not only fatal) form postfix logs and real time alerting of the users using the tool in case a fatal comes during e-mail procesing. Will see that for ver

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Nicolas HAHN
oaded, and REFUSE to start because of "fatal: main.cf configuration error: mailbox_size_limit is smaller than message_size_limit". Don't you think? But I learn I learn (well... I try) Wietse Venema a écrit : > Nicolas HAHN: >> Postfix feature request: that would be nice

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Wietse Venema
Nicolas HAHN: > Postfix feature request: that would be nice that Postfix be able > to do this kind of basic checks by itself when starting (or when > configuration is reloaded) between various inter-dependent > configuration settings, and display in the logs at least some > warnings when such kind

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Nicolas HAHN
> 1. Don't send bounces to postmaster, just generate and read log summaries > that may highlight aggregate problems with your mail stream. > > notify_classes = > > This applies to any MTA handing mail for a large number of users, > it is fine to have postmaster notices for a ma

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 03:37:17PM +0200, Nicolas HAHN wrote: > > More likely you have a mailbox size limit smaller than the message > > size limit. > > Yes, that's the reason. I completely forgot to check the matching > between both settings. > > The mailbox size limit was set to its default va

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Nicolas HAHN
> More likely you have a mailbox size limit smaller than the message > size limit. Yes, that's the reason. I completely forgot to check the matching between both settings. The mailbox size limit was set to its default value of 50 Mb. After setting it to 150 Mb, the issue was fixed. Note: the b

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Wietse Venema
Nicolas HAHN: Content-Description: Version texte brut du message [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > OK. > > I did some tries and it seems that I cannot go above 40 Mb for > message_size_limit to avoid the issue. > > As you wrote, here below is a set of lo

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 03:22:14PM +0200, Nicolas HAHN wrote: > 2013-04-24T12:32:01.442962+00:00 iccpfxor04 postfix/qmgr[24391]: 6B34360BAA: > from=, size=8389, nrcpt=1 (queue > active) > 2013-04-24T12:36:09.981198+00:00 iccpfxor04 postfix/qmgr[27126]: 6B34360BAA: > from=, size=8389, nrcpt=1 (q

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Nicolas HAHN
ch time I've reloaded (and even restarted) postfix after a config change. Mm But you're probably right. I might have forget to check the mailbox_size_limit to make it matching with the message_size_limit... I go check that &

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.04.2013 15:22, schrieb Nicolas HAHN: > As you wrote, here below is a set of log lines during the issue. The emails > staying in the growing active queue are > the bounce messages (we intercept them to send a copy to postmaster): > > [root@iccpfxor04 postfix]# grep 6B34360BAA /var/log/mail

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Nicolas HAHN
OK. I did some tries and it seems that I cannot go above 40 Mb for message_size_limit to avoid the issue. As you wrote, here below is a set of log lines during the issue. The emails staying in the growing active queue are the bounce messages (we intercept them to send a copy to postmaster

Re: Message_size_limit issue with postfix v 2.8.8-1 on RHEL 6

2013-04-24 Thread Wietse Venema
Nicolas HAHN: > I've modified message_size_limit from 20 Mb to 120 Mb this morning. > I know that's not something to do and we explained to the customer > a messaging system wasn't in any case a file transfer service... > But after, politic came in and blablabla... >

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