Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-13 Thread Wietse Venema
lutz.niede...@gmx.net: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=603780 . My mail > client is The Bat and even with this message in the logs it seems > to work. If the biopair message does not break mail, then ignore it. Postfix can't prevent the client from closing the session.

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-13 Thread lutz . niederer
Hi, this is still an open issue. > Ah, and another thing. I see the following in the logs: > Dec 12 16:38:39 hostname postfix/smtpd[1374]: warning: > network_biopair_interop: error reading 5 bytes from the network: Connection > reset by peer > > I already googled and found some hints but none

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-13 Thread lutz . niederer
Hi Wietse, we don't need to check fallback_relay anymore. As I found out, uucp transport will be turned off in near future on my backup smarthost site. I thank you for your help! -lutzn -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://f

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-12 Thread Wietse Venema
lutz.niede...@gmx.net: > Hi, > > I have a working setup of postfix that sends all mail not for me > to a relayhost via smtp. I want to use a fallback_relay to send > mail via uucp. Ok, I know that does not work out of the box. So > I set up another instance listening on port 10027 on 127.0.0.1.

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-12 Thread Wietse Venema
Ruppert G. von Teutul: > > > If I send a mail to someone at live.com it does not pass to the > > > fallback_relay if relayhost is down. In theory this should only > > > happen if my machine announces itself as MX for live.com. Correct? > > > > Oops, I wrote that code long enough that my memory i

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-12 Thread Ruppert G. von Teutul
> > If I send a mail to someone at live.com it does not pass to the > > fallback_relay if relayhost is down. In theory this should only > > happen if my machine announces itself as MX for live.com. Correct? > > Oops, I wrote that code long enough that my memory is incorrect. > > Try putting t

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-12 Thread Wietse Venema
lutz.niede...@gmx.net: > > > > > Why does Postfix believe that it is MX for those domains? If > > it didn't, then it would use the smtp_fallback_relay. > > I have no clue! > > If I send a mail to someone at live.com it does not pass to the > fallback_relay if relayhost is down. In theory this

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-12 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse Venema: > Ruppert G. von Teutul: > > > > > > The machine we are talking about is MX for all the domains that > > > > belong to me (=mydestination). And exactly the way relayhost is > > > > sent mails to the world they should be sent to the fallback_relay > > > > if that relayhost is down.

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-12 Thread lutz . niederer
> > Why does Postfix believe that it is MX for those domains? If > it didn't, then it would use the smtp_fallback_relay. I have no clue! If I send a mail to someone at live.com it does not pass to the fallback_relay if relayhost is down. In theory this should only happen if my machine annou

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-12 Thread Wietse Venema
Ruppert G. von Teutul: > > > > The machine we are talking about is MX for all the domains that > > > belong to me (=mydestination). And exactly the way relayhost is > > > sent mails to the world they should be sent to the fallback_relay > > > if that relayhost is down. > > > > Why are you MX hos

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-12 Thread Ruppert G. von Teutul
> > The machine we are talking about is MX for all the domains that > > belong to me (=mydestination). And exactly the way relayhost is > > sent mails to the world they should be sent to the fallback_relay > > if that relayhost is down. > > Why are you MX host for a domain, and then sending its

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-12 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse Venema: > > The machine we are talking about is MX for all the domains that > > belong to me (=mydestination). And exactly the way relayhost is > > sent mails to the world they should be sent to the fallback_relay > > if that relayhost is down. > > Why are you MX host for a domain, and the

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-12 Thread Wietse Venema
lutz.niede...@gmx.net: > > lutz.niede...@gmx.net: > > > The mails going to the uucp transport are going into the world. > > > > Wietse: > > You are sending mail to some other host, and want Postfix to use > > the smtp_fallback_feature when that host is down. > > > > Why does Postfix believe that

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-12 Thread lutz . niederer
> lutz.niede...@gmx.net: > > The mails going to the uucp transport are going into the world. > > Wietse: > You are sending mail to some other host, and want Postfix to use > the smtp_fallback_feature when that host is down. > > Why does Postfix believe that it is MX host for the destination? > So

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-12 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse: >To prevent mailer loops between MX hosts and fall-back hosts, Postfix >version 2.2 and later will not use the fallback relays for destinations >that it is MX host for (assuming DNS lookup is turned on). I made that change because mail would loop between the fallbax and the M

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-12 Thread lutz . niederer
there any tricks how I can do that? -lutzn Original-Nachricht > Datum: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:36:10 -0500 (EST) > Von: Wietse Venema > An: Postfix users > Betreff: Re: fallback_relay not triggered > lutz.niede...@gmx.net: > > Dec 12 16:38:38 mhost postfix/sm

Re: fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-12 Thread Wietse Venema
lutz.niede...@gmx.net: > Dec 12 16:38:38 mhost postfix/smtp[1378]: 4278AB425ED: to=, > relay=none, delay=0.05, delays=0.03/0/0.02/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred > (connect to mail.relay.de[192.10.64.2]: Connection refused) > > And then the message sits in the queue. It won't be delivered via my

fallback_relay not triggered

2011-12-12 Thread lutz . niederer
Hi, I have a working setup of postfix that sends all mail not for me to a relayhost via smtp. I want to use a fallback_relay to send mail via uucp. Ok, I know that does not work out of the box. So I set up another instance listening on port 10027 on 127.0.0.1. This sends mail via uucp. I c