Re: Ubuntu/Debian Postfix 2.8.x repository -- general chroot question

2011-02-07 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Wietse Venema put forth on 2/7/2011 1:05 PM: > getpwnam() is not a good example because Postfix uses proxymap from > inside the jail, but you get the idea. Here's a good example Wietse, one you helped me figure out/fix a couple of years ago. Before Lenny (Released Feb 2009), Debian didn't create

Re: Ubuntu/Debian Postfix 2.8.x repository -- general chroot question

2011-02-07 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Daniel Bromberg put forth on 2/7/2011 12:39 PM: > Finally, how does one use Postfix properly in the possessive? "Postfix's, > Postfixs', Postfix', and Postfixes" all look wrong. Go the Romance language route and use "of". Example, instead of using Postfix' smtpd_foo_restrictions use smtpd_foo

Re: Ubuntu/Debian Postfix 2.8.x repository -- general chroot question

2011-02-07 Thread Wietse Venema
Mark Alan: > On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:21:39 -0500 (EST), Wietse Venema > wrote: > > > Except for all those beginners that get into trouble because they > > use someone elses cookbook instructions instead of their own > > expertise. > > And instead of being continuously consumed by same beginner que

Re: Ubuntu/Debian Postfix 2.8.x repository -- general chroot question

2011-02-07 Thread Mark Alan
On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:21:39 -0500 (EST), Wietse Venema wrote: > Except for all those beginners that get into trouble because they > use someone elses cookbook instructions instead of their own > expertise. And instead of being continuously consumed by same beginner questions, wouldn't it be easi

Re: Ubuntu/Debian Postfix 2.8.x repository -- general chroot question

2011-02-07 Thread Wietse Venema
Christian Roessner: > >> For the sake of curiosity and education, why is running chroot'd Postfix > >> complicated? > > > > Late binding. Cyrus SASL may dynamically load plugins. Table drivers may > > dynamically do hostname lookups, CA certificates may need to retrieved, ... > > > > The more fe

Re: Ubuntu/Debian Postfix 2.8.x repository -- general chroot question

2011-02-07 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 08:15:49PM +0100, Christian Roessner wrote: > But I also could say: The more features you enable, the more experienced > you probably are. You could also say something just to disagree or make the last point. -- Viktor.

Re: Ubuntu/Debian Postfix 2.8.x repository -- general chroot question

2011-02-07 Thread Christian Roessner
>> For the sake of curiosity and education, why is running chroot'd Postfix >> complicated? > > Late binding. Cyrus SASL may dynamically load plugins. Table drivers may > dynamically do hostname lookups, CA certificates may need to retrieved, ... > > The more features you enable that use externa

Re: Ubuntu/Debian Postfix 2.8.x repository -- general chroot question

2011-02-07 Thread Wietse Venema
Mark Alan: > A quick google search shows that, for years, Wietse have been answering > questions related with users trying to use chrooted parts of Postfix. > > But, I wonder, in his machines does he use chroot or not? Wietse: > > Indeed I do, helped by an OS that requires few files in the postfix

Re: Ubuntu/Debian Postfix 2.8.x repository -- general chroot question

2011-02-07 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 01:39:18PM -0500, Daniel Bromberg wrote: > For the sake of curiosity and education, why is running chroot'd Postfix > complicated? Late binding. Cyrus SASL may dynamically load plugins. Table drivers may dynamically do hostname lookups, CA certificates may need to retriev

Re: Ubuntu/Debian Postfix 2.8.x repository -- general chroot question

2011-02-07 Thread Daniel Bromberg
On 2/7/2011 1:22 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: Mark Alan: A quick google search shows that, for years, Wietse have been answering questions related with users trying to use chrooted parts of Postfix. But, I wonder, in his machines does he use chroot or not? Indeed I do, helped by an OS that require