Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-30 Thread Brian Evans - Postfix List
On 12/30/2009 3:19 PM, Daniel L. Miller wrote: > Geert Hendrickx wrote: >> Then do the recipient domain validity check *before* accepting and >> queuing the message: put "reject_unknown_recipient_domain" in your >> smtpd_recipient_restrictions. This will make Postfix respond with: >> >> 450 4.1.2

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-30 Thread Daniel L. Miller
Geert Hendrickx wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 04:07:01PM -0800, Daniel L. Miller wrote: My understanding is a MUA (for convenience, call it Thunderbird) will talk to a local MTA (Postfix, of course!) to send mail. After authentication and any other local checks, the local MTA accepts respon

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-30 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 04:07:01PM -0800, Daniel L. Miller wrote: > My understanding is a MUA (for convenience, call it Thunderbird) will talk > to a local MTA (Postfix, of course!) to send mail. After authentication and > any other local checks, the local MTA accepts responsibility for the messag

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Wietse Venema
Daniel L. Miller: > Wietse Venema wrote: > > Daniel L. Miller: > > > >> Wietse Venema wrote: > >> > > Postfix reports enhanced status codes (5.1.1 means the mailbox does > > not exist, etc.) in standardized non-delivery notifications. See RFC > > 3463 for an overview. > > > > Mail user agen

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Daniel L. Miller
Wietse Venema wrote: Daniel L. Miller: Wietse Venema wrote: Postfix reports enhanced status codes (5.1.1 means the mailbox does not exist, etc.) in standardized non-delivery notifications. See RFC 3463 for an overview. Mail user agents can translate these standardized status codes into

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Wietse Venema
Daniel L. Miller: > Wietse Venema wrote: > > Daniel L. Miller: > > > >> Wietse Venema wrote: > >> > >>> Daniel L. Miller: > >>> > >>> So...I unreservedly withdraw my question about an e-mail interface for > >>> queue management. But...is there any provision for more advanced bounce > >>>

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Daniel L. Miller
Wietse Venema wrote: Daniel L. Miller: Wietse Venema wrote: Daniel L. Miller: So...I unreservedly withdraw my question about an e-mail interface for queue management. But...is there any provision for more advanced bounce processing? I offered a solution that allows you to s

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Wietse Venema
Daniel L. Miller: > Wietse Venema wrote: > > Daniel L. Miller: > > > >> 5F47320CEC2 4338844 Mon Dec 28 13:12:09 idiotu...@amfes.com > >> (host mail.fireprobymesa.com[65.40.152.138] said: 550 5.1.1 User unknown > >> (in reply to RCPT TO command)) > >> j

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Daniel L. Miller
Wietse Venema wrote: Daniel L. Miller: 5F47320CEC2 4338844 Mon Dec 28 13:12:09 idiotu...@amfes.com (host mail.fireprobymesa.com[65.40.152.138] said: 550 5.1.1 User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command)) jeff...@fireprobymesa.com That does no

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Wietse Venema put forth on 12/29/2009 10:56 AM: > We have a cultural confusion. > > I think Stan's use of "God" does not imply adolation but rather > indicates a special role (in this case with respect to Postfix). Correct. The "God" analogy simply implies "creator" and "supreme authority" of

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Wietse Venema
Sahil Tandon: > On Dec 29, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Stan Hoeppner > wrote: > > > Sahil Tandon put forth on 12/29/2009 9:08 AM: > > > >> God himself? Is this a joke or are you working on some creepy, > >> endearing biography? > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy > > > > According to Jewish an

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Dec 29, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Sahil Tandon put forth on 12/29/2009 9:08 AM: God himself? Is this a joke or are you working on some creepy, endearing biography? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy According to Jewish and Christian belief, God is the creator of the

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Sahil Tandon put forth on 12/29/2009 9:08 AM: > God himself? Is this a joke or are you working on some creepy, > endearing biography? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy According to Jewish and Christian belief, God is the creator of the universe, and is all knowing of all things in the univer

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Dec 29, 2009, at 6:46 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Daniel L. Miller put forth on 12/29/2009 2:44 AM: I believe I understand where you're headed with this - but it's NOT what I was asking! Hi Daniel, Just a quick note. It's probably not a great idea to SHOUT! at Dr. Venema, the perso

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Wietse Venema
Daniel L. Miller: > 5F47320CEC2 4338844 Mon Dec 28 13:12:09 idiotu...@amfes.com > (host mail.fireprobymesa.com[65.40.152.138] said: 550 5.1.1 User unknown > (in reply to RCPT TO command)) > jeff...@fireprobymesa.com That does not seem right. You have "so

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2009-12-28 5:17 PM, Daniel L. Miller wrote: > When a user mistypes a remote e-mail address (not that THAT ever > happens!), the result is typically either a "user unknown", "invalid > recipient", or "host or domain not found" message. At least for MY > system, with MY configuration (however fla

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Hannes Erven
Daniel, > 5F47320CEC2 4338844 Mon Dec 28 13:12:09 idiotu...@amfes.com > (host mail.fireprobymesa.com[65.40.152.138] said: 550 5.1.1 User unknown > (in reply to RCPT TO command)) > jeff...@fireprobymesa.com Do you have "soft_bounce=yes" configured? (http

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Daniel L. Miller put forth on 12/29/2009 2:44 AM: > I believe I understand where you're headed with this - but it's NOT what > I was asking! Hi Daniel, Just a quick note. It's probably not a great idea to SHOUT! at Dr. Venema, the person to whom who were replying here, and who is trying to help

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-29 Thread Daniel L. Miller
Wietse Venema wrote: Daniel L. Miller: [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] I don't know what the correct terminology is for my question - please adjust my wording as needed. When a user mistypes a remote e-mail address (not that THAT ever happens!), the result is typically ei

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-28 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Daniel L. Miller wrote: > I don't know what the correct terminology is for my question - > please adjust my wording as needed. > > When a user mistypes a remote e-mail address (not that THAT ever > happens!), the result is typically either a "user unknown", "invalid > recipie

Re: In-queue rejections

2009-12-28 Thread Wietse Venema
Daniel L. Miller: [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > I don't know what the correct terminology is for my question - please > adjust my wording as needed. > > When a user mistypes a remote e-mail address (not that THAT ever > happens!), the result is typically either a "user unkn