On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 02:48:14PM +0200, Lothar Gesslein wrote:
> > Just to make sure that I'm crystal clear however, let me ask: When you
> > say "terminated" what you are actually implying is just that the policy
> > server process receives EOF on stdin, correct?
>
> AFAIK normal unix process
Lothar Gesslein:
> As far as I understand it, $max_use is counted/incremented by the
> postfix master daemon, for each new incoming connection (it is a
No, that is incorrect, as are all inferences based on this.
Wietse
On 10/10/2014 07:36 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> Thank you. What you have written above does in fact clarify things a
> good deal more.
>
> Just to make sure that I'm crystal clear however, let me ask: When you
> say "terminated" what you are actually implying is just that the policy
> serve
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Lothar Gesslein wrote:
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>On 10/09/2014 08:25 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette
On 10/09/2014 08:25 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> In any event, regardless of how this key sentence is construed, it
> self-evidently leaves open a rather obvious quetion: What happens,
> exactly, when the $max_use limit is exceeded? The document makes
> no effort at all to specify, leaving th
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 11:46:24AM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
>
> >Spawn launches a new {policy} process for each new {SMTP} connection.
>
> Thank you! I most certainly did not grasp that until just this moment.
No, I deliberately did not use the words you inse
On 09 Oct 2014, at 13:50 , Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> No one sensible would dispute your skill as a software developer,
> but I'll put my own understanding of the English language up against
> your's,
Funniest thing all day. Hurray for Skitt’s Law.
--
'I thought we could do it without anyone
Ronald F. Guilmette:
>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/use
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk
Wietse
In message <3jdmll1j7pzj...@spike.porcupine.org>,
wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote:
>Ronald F. Guilmette:
>> I'm asking you to explain your documentation, and specifically why
>> you have a different understanding of the word "use" that the vast
>
>See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clie
Ronald F. Guilmette:
>
> In message <3jdlhr1bzjzj...@spike.porcupine.org>, you wrote:
>
> >Ronald F. Guilmette:
> >> OK, I'm reading (and re-reading, and re-re-reading) the statement in
> >> question, which appears in the SMTPD_POLICY_README, and I'm sorry to
> >> say that I still find it almost
In message <3jdlhr1bzjzj...@spike.porcupine.org>, you wrote:
>Ronald F. Guilmette:
>> OK, I'm reading (and re-reading, and re-re-reading) the statement in
>> question, which appears in the SMTPD_POLICY_README, and I'm sorry to
>> say that I still find it almost imponderably ambiguous.
>>
>> Plea
In message <20141009172354.gu13...@mournblade.imrryr.org>,
Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
>Spawn launches a new {policy} process for each new {SMTP} connection.
Thank you! I most certainly did not grasp that until just this moment.
>A policy server connection never outlives the smtpd(8) process that
Ronald F. Guilmette:
>
> In message <3jdjvm2k00zj...@spike.porcupine.org>,
> wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote:
>
> >Ronald F. Guilmette:
> >> Somewhere burried in the documentation I vaguely remember seeing a
> >> comment to the effect that Postfix will only ask a policy server to
> >>
In message <3jdjvm2k00zj...@spike.porcupine.org>,
wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote:
>Ronald F. Guilmette:
>> Somewhere burried in the documentation I vaguely remember seeing a
>> comment to the effect that Postfix will only ask a policy server to
>> handle 100 requests. (I guess that
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 10:07:21AM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> Please do correct me if I'm wrong... I may be misunderstanding...
> but these additional possibilities you are describing would be
> available _only_ if the policy server is invoked by something
> other than spawn(8), correct?
Ronald F. Guilmette:
> Somewhere burried in the documentation I vaguely remember seeing a
> comment to the effect that Postfix will only ask a policy server to
> handle 100 requests. (I guess that this is one way of allowing for
> badly written policy servers that have, for example, memork leaks
>
Am 09.10.2014 um 19:07 schrieb Ronald F. Guilmette:
I wonder how many Postfix policy servers have been written to be
invoked other than via spawn(8). I have trouble imagining that any
have been, since just allowing them to be invoked by spawn(8)...
which automagically handles hooking up stdin t
In message <20141009152227.gq13...@mournblade.imrryr.org>,
Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
>On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 06:17:45PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>> As I understand it, a Postfix policy server is supposed to be reading
>> incoming requests from stdin.
>
>No, it is supposed to be accepting
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 06:17:45PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> The SMTPD_POLICY_README file says:
>
> "In case of trouble the policy server must not send a reply. Instead the
> server
> must log a warning and disconnect. Postfix will retry the request at some
> later
> time."
>
>
> Um
How exactly does one "disconnect" from stdin? I mean other than by
calling exit() ?
Exiting is sufficient.
The SMTPD_POLICY_README file should be edited in a way so as to
make that clear. The current wording is quite entirely perplexing.
"Disconnect" is quite obviously the wrong word to us
In message <54361549.5050...@megan.vbhcs.org>,
Noel Jones wrote:
>On 10/8/2014 8:17 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>> The SMTPD_POLICY_README file says:
>>
>> "In case of trouble the policy server must not send a reply. Instead the ser
>ver
>> must log a warning and disconnect. Postfix will re
On 10/8/2014 8:17 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> The SMTPD_POLICY_README file says:
>
> "In case of trouble the policy server must not send a reply. Instead the
> server
> must log a warning and disconnect. Postfix will retry the request at some
> later
> time."
>
>
> Ummm...
>
> I can easl
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