Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-22 Thread Wietse Venema
Quanah Gibson-Mount: > After filing a bug with RedHat about their GPL violation, they got on the > phone with Oracle, and Oracle updated the MySQL FOSS exception list to > include IBM Public License 1.0. So this is no longer a problem for anyone. Thanks. That is one less thing to worry about.

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-22 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Monday, February 28, 2011 11:32 PM -0500 Victor Duchovni wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 09:22:52PM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: With Debian, if I need mysql support I simply install the extra package postfix-mysql, which depends on libmysqlclient. (This is the same procedure for acquiri

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-03 Thread mouss
Le 03/03/2011 15:39, Randy Ramsdell a écrit : > mouss wrote: >> Le 01/03/2011 11:25, Matthias Andree a écrit : >>> Am 28.02.2011 23:57, schrieb Quanah Gibson-Mount: >>> The main issue I see at the moment really is the inability to legally link Postfix to MySQL, removing a valuable piece o

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-03 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-03-02 5:10 PM, mouss wrote: > Le 01/03/2011 10:09, Ralf Hildebrandt a écrit : >> "MariaDB is a database server that offers drop-in replacement >> functionality for MySQL. MariaDB is built by some of the original >> authors of MySQL, with assistance from the broader community of Free >> and

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-03 Thread Randy Ramsdell
mouss wrote: Le 01/03/2011 11:25, Matthias Andree a écrit : Am 28.02.2011 23:57, schrieb Quanah Gibson-Mount: The main issue I see at the moment really is the inability to legally link Postfix to MySQL, removing a valuable piece of Postfix functionality. Not a loss. If MySQL and Postfix turn

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-02 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* mouss : > seems promissing, but a fork like that requires a year or so to see > what gets out of it. so either the guys are very good and they'll get > out with a great success, or the project will die. Yes. Promising, to say the least. -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Ne

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-02 Thread mouss
Le 01/03/2011 10:09, Ralf Hildebrandt a écrit : > * Victor Duchovni : > >> This is a legal question. The postfix-mysql loadable object links >> Postfix table driver code available under the IPL against the MySQL >> shared library. Whether this is allowed under the MySQL license is >> not completel

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-02 Thread mouss
Le 01/03/2011 11:25, Matthias Andree a écrit : > Am 28.02.2011 23:57, schrieb Quanah Gibson-Mount: > >> The main issue I see at the moment really is the inability to legally >> link Postfix to MySQL, removing a valuable piece of Postfix functionality. > > Not a loss. If MySQL and Postfix turn ou

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-02 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Tuesday, March 01, 2011 10:06 AM +0100 Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Quanah Gibson-Mount : Sorry, I apologize. Particularly as someone who sees my own name often misspelled. ;) What is the origin of "Quanah"? No relation, and I have no know

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-01 Thread lst_hoe02
Zitat von Matthias Andree : Am 28.02.2011 23:57, schrieb Quanah Gibson-Mount: The main issue I see at the moment really is the inability to legally link Postfix to MySQL, removing a valuable piece of Postfix functionality. Not a loss. If MySQL and Postfix turn out to be incompatible license

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-01 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 28.02.2011 23:57, schrieb Quanah Gibson-Mount: > The main issue I see at the moment really is the inability to legally > link Postfix to MySQL, removing a valuable piece of Postfix functionality. Not a loss. If MySQL and Postfix turn out to be incompatible license-wise, this prevents one part

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.03.2011 10:06, schrieb Ralf Hildebrandt: > Agreed. I do know that some RedHat releases had no maptype mysql > (because of this?) seems so for fedora i had to take the srpm and rebuild it with mysql-support which can be enabled in the SPEC-file but is not enabled in binary builds i think t

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Victor Duchovni : > This is a legal question. The postfix-mysql loadable object links > Postfix table driver code available under the IPL against the MySQL > shared library. Whether this is allowed under the MySQL license is > not completely clear. > > It is not a problem with Postgres or LDAP.

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Stan Hoeppner : > With Debian, if I need mysql support I simply install the extra package > postfix-mysql, which depends on libmysqlclient. (This is the same > procedure for acquiring pgsql, pcre, cdb, ldap, etc capability) Yes, but this functionality (splitting out maptypes) has been PATCHED

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-03-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Quanah Gibson-Mount : > Sorry, I apologize. Particularly as someone who sees my own name > often misspelled. ;) What is the origin of "Quanah"? > >position. I don't care if one flavor of "you must release source > >code" is better than another flavor. If I had the choice it then > >would be

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 09:22:52PM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > With Debian, if I need mysql support I simply install the extra package > postfix-mysql, which depends on libmysqlclient. (This is the same > procedure for acquiring pgsql, pcre, cdb, ldap, etc capability) > > So by installing the

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Quanah Gibson-Mount put forth on 2/28/2011 4:03 PM: > Postfix is highly used among > various linux distributions (Debian, Ubuntu, SuSE, RedHat all come to > mind), but with the exception of Redhat, none of them link postfix > against the MySQL libraries by default. I'm no dev so please excuse the

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Mihira Fernando
On 03/01/2011 04:23 AM, mouss wrote: postfix is the default MTA in NetBSD. so it seems "some" of the "BSD folks" have no problems with the current licence;-p Speaking of default MTAs, Postfix is the default MTA on Ubuntu Server as well. Mihira.

RE: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Alfonso Alejandro Reyes Jimenez
34 82 -Mensaje original- De: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org [mailto:owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] En nombre de Quanah Gibson-Mount Enviado el: lunes, 28 de febrero de 2011 04:57 p.m. Para: mouss+nob...@netoyen.net; postfix-users@postfix.org Asunto: Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatib

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Monday, February 28, 2011 5:43 PM -0500 Wietse Venema wrote: Quanah Gibson-Mount: >> Wieste, will postfix be moving to the CPL, or will it be retaining the >> IPL? > > The IPL is the second license under which Postfix was released. > With IPL and CPL being similar in spirit (and equally

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Monday, February 28, 2011 11:53 PM +0100 mouss wrote: Certainly allowing postfix to be linked against the MySQL libraries without engendering a license violation is a significant positive. Postfix is highly used among various linux distributions (Debian, Ubuntu, SuSE, RedHat all come to

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread mouss
Le 28/02/2011 23:03, Quanah Gibson-Mount a écrit : > --On Monday, February 28, 2011 3:37 PM -0500 Wietse Venema > wrote: > >>> Wieste, will postfix be moving to the CPL, or will it be retaining the >>> IPL? >> >> The IPL is the second license under which Postfix was released. >> With IPL and CPL

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Wietse Venema
Quanah Gibson-Mount: > >> Wieste, will postfix be moving to the CPL, or will it be retaining the > >> IPL? > > > > The IPL is the second license under which Postfix was released. > > With IPL and CPL being similar in spirit (and equally objectionable > > for OpenBSD, according to people I talked to

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Monday, February 28, 2011 3:37 PM -0500 Wietse Venema wrote: Wieste, will postfix be moving to the CPL, or will it be retaining the IPL? The IPL is the second license under which Postfix was released. With IPL and CPL being similar in spirit (and equally objectionable for OpenBSD, accor

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Wietse Venema
Quanah Gibson-Mount: > wrote: > > >> The MySQL FOSS exception, however, does not broadly include all OSI > >> licenses. > > > > Victor, > > > > Thanks for the information, very useful. I would be particularly curious > > to know if Postfix is now licensed under the CPL rather than the IPL. > > W

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Friday, February 25, 2011 11:02 PM -0800 Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: The MySQL FOSS exception, however, does not broadly include all OSI licenses. Victor, Thanks for the information, very useful. I would be particularly curious to know if Postfix is now licensed under the CPL rather th

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-25 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Saturday, February 26, 2011 1:41 AM -0500 Victor Duchovni wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 04:39:25PM -0800, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: Just curious, the GPL and the IPL are not license compatible. Anyone know how RHEL and other sites deal with this when trying to provide a postfix wit

Re: mysql GPL/postfix IPL incompatibility

2011-02-25 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 04:39:25PM -0800, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: > Just curious, the GPL and the IPL are not license compatible. Anyone know > how RHEL and other sites deal with this when trying to provide a postfix > with mysql tables as an option? [IANAL] The MySQL client libraries may