Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:59 PM, @lbutlr wrote: > >> On 18 Aug 2015, at 06:55, Tom Browder wrote: >> >> So how should the DNS records look? Can anyone give me the exact >> settings for the A, CNAME, MX, and PTR records for A.tld and B.tld >> (and any other suggested records)? ... > $ dig kreme.

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-21 Thread @lbutlr
> On 18 Aug 2015, at 06:55, Tom Browder wrote: > > So how should the DNS records look? Can anyone give me the exact > settings for the A, CNAME, MX, and PTR records for A.tld and B.tld > (and any other suggested records)? $ dig kreme.com mx kreme.com. 86400 IN MX 10

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-19 Thread Tom Browder
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 2:26 AM, L.P.H. van Belle wrote: Okay, I assume then that this should be the only PTR record: 4.3.2.1.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR B.tld. >>> >>> Yes. Provided of course B.tld is The One True Hostname for >>your server. >> >>It is! > > No, imo, it is not.. and this s

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-19 Thread Tom Browder
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 2:26 AM, L.P.H. van Belle wrote: Okay, I assume then that this should be the only PTR record: 4.3.2.1.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR B.tld. >>> >>> Yes. Provided of course B.tld is The One True Hostname for >>your server. >> >>It is! > > No, imo, it is not.. and this s

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-19 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:17:33AM -0400, Bill Cole wrote: > On 18 Aug 2015, at 16:58, Jim Reid wrote: > > >On 18 Aug 2015, at 21:55, Tom Browder wrote: > > > >>Okay, now assuming my server IP address is 1.2.3.4, do the following > >>DNS records appear reasonable? > > > >No. There should be just

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-19 Thread Bill Cole
On 18 Aug 2015, at 16:58, Jim Reid wrote: On 18 Aug 2015, at 21:55, Tom Browder wrote: Okay, now assuming my server IP address is 1.2.3.4, do the following DNS records appear reasonable? No. There should be just one PTR record for an IP address. The only reason for that "should" is to avo

RE: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-19 Thread L . P . H . van Belle
Greetz, Louis >-Oorspronkelijk bericht- >Van: tom.brow...@gmail.com >[mailto:owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] Namens Tom Browder >Verzonden: dinsdag 18 augustus 2015 23:35 >Aan: Jim Reid >CC: postfix users >Onderwerp: Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain i

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-18 Thread Tom Browder
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Jim Reid wrote: > > On 18 Aug 2015, at 22:06, Tom Browder wrote: > >> Okay, I assume then that this should be the only PTR record: >> >> 4.3.2.1.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR B.tld. > > Yes. Provided of course B.tld is The One True Hostname for your server. It is! > BTW,

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-18 Thread Jim Reid
On 18 Aug 2015, at 22:06, Tom Browder wrote: > Okay, I assume then that this should be the only PTR record: > > 4.3.2.1.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR B.tld. Yes. Provided of course B.tld is The One True Hostname for your server. BTW, you will get on a lot better if your postings used the actual IP add

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-18 Thread Jim Reid
On 18 Aug 2015, at 21:55, Tom Browder wrote: > Okay, now assuming my server IP address is 1.2.3.4, do the following > DNS records appear reasonable? No. There should be just one PTR record for an IP address.

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-18 Thread Tom Browder
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Jim Reid wrote: > On 18 Aug 2015, at 21:55, Tom Browder wrote: >> Okay, now assuming my server IP address is 1.2.3.4, do the following >> DNS records appear reasonable? > > No. There should be just one PTR record for an IP address. Okay, I assume then that this s

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-18 Thread Tom Browder
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:44:03AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: >> Okay, then I guess I should pick one of the virtual hosts as the domain >> name and add some arbitrary host then. Does that mean it is then a "real" >> server and should not b

RE: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-18 Thread L . P . H . van Belle
phabet. Greetz, Louis >-Oorspronkelijk bericht- >Van: rwhee...@artifact-software.com >[mailto:owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] Namens Ron Wheeler >Verzonden: dinsdag 18 augustus 2015 16:14 >Aan: postfix-users@postfix.org >Onderwerp: Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-18 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 08/18/2015 06:49 AM, Koko Wijatmoko wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 07:55:00 -0500 Tom Browder wrote: So how should the DNS records look? Can anyone give me the exact settings for the A, CNAME, MX, and PTR records for A.tld and B.tld (and any other suggested records)? this is not the best qu

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-18 Thread Michael Ströder
Ron Wheeler wrote: > The MX record has to point to an A or CNAME that maps to the actual machine > where your main service (Postfix) runs. IIRC the MX should not point to a CNAME as target host to make proper loop detection work. Or am I wrong? See https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5321#section-5.1:

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-18 Thread Ron Wheeler
This is pretty common. The DNS does not matter all that much as long as people can find the MX server for each domain. The MX record has to point to an A or CNAME that maps to the actual machine where your main service (Postfix) runs. The A or CNAME can be in a different domain as long as that i

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-18 Thread Koko Wijatmoko
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 07:55:00 -0500 Tom Browder wrote: > So how should the DNS records look? Can anyone give me the exact > settings for the A, CNAME, MX, and PTR records for A.tld and B.tld > (and any other suggested records)? > this is not the best question on this list. google will guide you

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-18 Thread Tom Browder
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 3:36 PM, @lbutlr wrote: > On 16 Aug 2015, at 10:44 , Tom Browder wrote: >> Okay, then I guess I should pick one of the virtual hosts as the domain name >> and add some arbitrary host then. Does that mean it is then a "real" server >> and should not be treated as a virtu

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-16 Thread @lbutlr
On 16 Aug 2015, at 10:44 , Tom Browder wrote: > Okay, then I guess I should pick one of the virtual hosts as the domain name > and add some arbitrary host then. Does that mean it is then a "real" server > and should not be treated as a virtual domain? You need a reasonable helo name and you ne

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-16 Thread Tom Browder
On Aug 16, 2015 1:59 PM, "Viktor Dukhovni" wrote: > > > Nothing of the sort. Just give the machine a sensible hostname > Whether that name has anything to do with your virtual domains or > not is irrelevant. Pick one of those names if you like, or use > some other domain name at your disposal. >

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-16 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 01:48:46PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > Nothing of the sort. Just give the machine a sensible hostname > > that will be used as its smtp_helo_name and is the sole name in > > its PTR record. > > Viktor, thanks, but forgive my ignorance . All the domain names I own all >

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-16 Thread Tom Browder
On Aug 16, 2015 12:24 PM, "Viktor Dukhovni" wrote: > On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:44:03AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > Okay, then I guess I should pick one of the virtual hosts as the domain > > name and add some arbitrary host then. Does that mean it is then a "real" > > server and should not be t

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-16 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:44:03AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > Okay, then I guess I should pick one of the virtual hosts as the domain > name and add some arbitrary host then. Does that mean it is then a "real" > server and should not be treated as a virtual domain? Nothing of the sort. Just giv

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-16 Thread Tom Browder
On Aug 16, 2015 11:33 AM, "Wietse Venema" wrote: > > > If this server will send mail directly to the internet, then myhostname > > > should be a name that resolves to the internet IP address. > > > > Well, the only mail that should be sent is from or through the virtual > > domains, all of which s

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-16 Thread Wietse Venema
Tom Browder: > On Aug 16, 2015 10:57 AM, "Wietse Venema" wrote: > > If this server will send mail directly to the internet, then myhostname > > should be a name that resolves to the internet IP address. > > Well, the only mail that should be sent is from or through the virtual > domains, all of w

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-16 Thread Tom Browder
On Aug 16, 2015 10:57 AM, "Wietse Venema" wrote: > If this server will send mail directly to the internet, then myhostname > should be a name that resolves to the internet IP address. Well, the only mail that should be sent is from or through the virtual domains, all of which share the same IP ad

Re: Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-16 Thread Wietse Venema
Tom Browder: > Thanks to Mark Sapiro, one of the Mailman developers, in 2011 I was able > to get a set of mailing lists for multiple virtual hosts working, and now > I'm in the process of moving to a new server (with the latest versions of > Postfix and MM2 installed from src) and want to get a be

Postfix and Mailman 2 virtual alias domain integration

2015-08-16 Thread Tom Browder
Thanks to Mark Sapiro, one of the Mailman developers, in 2011 I was able to get a set of mailing lists for multiple virtual hosts working, and now I'm in the process of moving to a new server (with the latest versions of Postfix and MM2 installed from src) and want to get a better feel for some of