Re: Postfix HELO FQDN requirement

2009-08-04 Thread Noel Jones
Robin Smidsrød wrote: Mikael Bak wrote: Robin Smidsrød wrote: I've had at least one client leave because he absolutely needs to have every email, because every single email he receives could be really important. So dealing with spam is something he just has to do. On the other hand I have users

Re: Postfix HELO FQDN requirement

2009-08-04 Thread Robin Smidsrød
Mikael Bak wrote: > Robin Smidsrød wrote: >> I've had at least one client leave because he absolutely needs to have >> every email, because every single email he receives could be really >> important. So dealing with spam is something he just has to do. On the >> other hand I have users that don't

Re: Postfix HELO FQDN requirement

2009-08-04 Thread Mikael Bak
Robin Smidsrød wrote: > > I've had at least one client leave because he absolutely needs to have > every email, because every single email he receives could be really > important. So dealing with spam is something he just has to do. On the > other hand I have users that don't really care one way o

Re: Postfix HELO FQDN requirement

2009-08-04 Thread Robin Smidsrød
/dev/rob0 wrote: > On Monday 03 August 2009 07:58:48 Robin Smidsrød wrote: >> I'm just trying to figure out what to write in a policy document about >> this behaviour. A behaviour which is backed by a RFC has a lot of more >> weight (conserning interoperability) than our own policies about what is

Re: Postfix HELO FQDN requirement

2009-08-03 Thread /dev/rob0
On Monday 03 August 2009 07:58:48 Robin Smidsrød wrote: > Wietse Venema wrote: > > John Peach: > >> On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:18:52 +0200 > >> Robin Smidsr__d wrote: > >> [snip] > >> > >>> Willy De la Court wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Does this mean that all of the reject rules are in fact not > >>> RFC

Re: Postfix HELO FQDN requirement

2009-08-03 Thread Robin Smidsrød
Wietse Venema wrote: > John Peach: >> On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:18:52 +0200 >> Robin Smidsr__d wrote: >> [snip] >>> Willy De la Court wrote: >>> >>> >>> Does this mean that all of the reject rules are in fact not >>> RFC-conformant? >>> >>> The reason I mention reject_invalid_helo_hostname is that I'

Re: Postfix HELO FQDN requirement

2009-08-03 Thread Willy De la Court
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:05:26 -0400 (EDT), wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: > John Peach: >> On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:18:52 +0200 >> Robin Smidsr__d wrote: >> [snip] >> > Willy De la Court wrote: >> > This was the question asked by robin. Something went wrong with the quoting. >> > >> >

Re: Postfix HELO FQDN requirement

2009-08-03 Thread Wietse Venema
John Peach: > On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:18:52 +0200 > Robin Smidsr__d wrote: > [snip] > > Willy De la Court wrote: > > > > > > Does this mean that all of the reject rules are in fact not > > RFC-conformant? > > > > The reason I mention reject_invalid_helo_hostname is that I'm unsure > > if the IPv(

Re: Postfix HELO FQDN requirement

2009-08-03 Thread John Peach
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:18:52 +0200 Robin Smidsr__d wrote: [snip] > Willy De la Court wrote: > > > Does this mean that all of the reject rules are in fact not > RFC-conformant? > > The reason I mention reject_invalid_helo_hostname is that I'm unsure > if the IPv(4|6) address syntax is part of thi

Re: Postfix HELO FQDN requirement

2009-08-03 Thread Robin Smidsrød
Willy De la Court wrote: > On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:14:10 +0200, Robin Smidsrød > wrote: [snip] > > rfc2821 contains the following > > - the clarifications and applicability statements in RFC 1123 [2], [snip] > http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/RFC/1123/90.htm > > where it states > > The sender-SMT

Re: Postfix HELO FQDN requirement

2009-08-03 Thread Willy De la Court
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:18:53 +0200, Willy De la Court wrote: > On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:14:10 +0200, Robin Smidsrød > wrote: >> I read John Peach's response to a mail regarding the Postfix option to >> reject non-FQDN HELO transactions. >> >> http://www.irbs.net/internet/postfix/0302/0183.html >>

Re: Postfix HELO FQDN requirement

2009-08-03 Thread Willy De la Court
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:14:10 +0200, Robin Smidsrød wrote: > I read John Peach's response to a mail regarding the Postfix option to > reject non-FQDN HELO transactions. > > http://www.irbs.net/internet/postfix/0302/0183.html > > He states that Joris Benschop is correct in that email. > > I was s

Postfix HELO FQDN requirement

2009-08-03 Thread Robin Smidsrød
I read John Peach's response to a mail regarding the Postfix option to reject non-FQDN HELO transactions. http://www.irbs.net/internet/postfix/0302/0183.html He states that Joris Benschop is correct in that email. I was scanning through RFC 821 (and also through RFC2821 which has superseeded it)