Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 04:39:53PM -0500, Randy Ramsdell wrote: > Beating a dead horse, but I would use a relay where the admins do not know > the standards. The admins of that server should delegate duties to someone > else. Perhaps the relay is really an MSA for home MUA users and is not desi

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Randy Ramsdell
Trigve Siver wrote: From: Michael Tokarev To: Trigve Siver Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 10:08:04 AM Subject: Re: Empty From when generating bounce 07.12.2010 11:21, Trigve Siver wrote: [] yes I know but I'm not in charge of realyhost and they (who a

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-12-07 2:39 AM, Trigve Siver wrote: > Hi, > I'm having some problem with bounces. When someone send mail to my mail > server > and sender is not existent, postfix generate bounce. Bounce has empty > envelope > "From" set (from=<>) . I'm using relayhost and when sending bounce back I've

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Wietse Venema
Trigve Siver: > Thanks for reply. > > Could some post the except from standard where this is defined to be able to > argue with relayhost provider, please? RFC 5321 is the current SMTP definition. 6.1. Reliable Delivery and Replies by Email ... If there is a delivery failure after acce

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Trigve Siver : > "... Since in most cases it is not appropriate to respond to an automatic > response, and the responder is not interested in delivery status messages, > a > MAIL FROM address of <> MAY be used for this purpose. A MAIL FROM address > which is specifically chosen for

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Trigve Siver
> From: Ralf Hildebrandt > To: postfix-users@postfix.org > Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 10:37:20 AM > Subject: Re: Empty From when generating bounce > > This is all best summed up by section 5.2.9 of RFC1123, which says: > > The syntax shown in RFC-821 for the MAIL

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Trigve Siver : > Could some post the except from standard where this is defined to be able to > argue with relayhost provider, please? This is all best summed up by section 5.2.9 of RFC1123, which says: The syntax shown in RFC-821 for the MAIL FROM: command omits the case of an empty path: "M

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Trigve Siver
> From: Michael Tokarev > To: Trigve Siver > Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org > Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 10:08:04 AM > Subject: Re: Empty From when generating bounce > > 07.12.2010 11:21, Trigve Siver wrote: > [] > > yes I know but I'm not in charge of re

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Michael Tokarev
07.12.2010 11:21, Trigve Siver wrote: [] > yes I know but I'm not in charge of realyhost and they (who are in charge) > told > me that they don't accept empty From. Could I somehow change From to some > kind > of "black hole" which will discard all the mails? Postfix tries hard to conform to e

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Trigve Siver
> From: Erwan David > To: postfix-users@postfix.org > Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 9:05:43 AM > Subject: Re: Empty From when generating bounce > > On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 08:39:24AM CET, Trigve Siver said: > > Hi, > > I'm having some problem with bounces.

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Erwan David
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 08:39:24AM CET, Trigve Siver said: > Hi, > I'm having some problem with bounces. When someone send mail to my mail > server > and sender is not existent, postfix generate bounce. Bounce has empty > envelope > "From" set (from=<>) . I'm using relayhost and when sending b

Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-06 Thread Trigve Siver
Hi, I'm having some problem with bounces. When someone send mail to my mail server and sender is not existent, postfix generate bounce. Bounce has empty envelope "From" set (from=<>) . I'm using relayhost and when sending bounce back I've got error that "From" shouldn't be empty/invalid (I thin