Re: Clients Sending Phantom Email

2021-04-29 Thread Tom Hendrikx
On 28-04-2021 22:41, Wietse Venema wrote: Asai: Greetings, We are getting reports, more and more, of email clients (Type App, Mac Mail, iOS Mail) that seem to send email, and show that the email has been sent on the client, but the mail server has no record of email ever reaching the SMTP se

Re: Clients Sending Phantom Email

2021-04-29 Thread Aban Dokht
Asai wrote: Can someone advise as to what area of debugging we can turn on? There's a lot of info in debugging, and we can't turn it all on at once, so we could use some specifics. Perhaps setting up SPF + DMARC RUF will help you to identify those systems. Regards Aban -- Aban Dokht

Re: Clients Sending Phantom Email

2021-04-29 Thread @lbutlr
On 28 Apr 2021, at 10:28, Asai wrote: > We are getting reports, more and more, of email clients (Type App, Mac Mail, > iOS Mail) that seem to send email, and show that the email has been sent on > the client, but the mail server has no record of email ever reaching the SMTP > service, nor does

Re: Clients Sending Phantom Email

2021-04-29 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 28.04.21 09:28, Asai wrote: We are getting reports, more and more, of email clients (Type App, Mac Mail, iOS Mail) that seem to send email, and show that the email has been sent on the client, but the mail server has no record of email ever reaching the SMTP service, nor does it even seem th

Re: Clients Sending Phantom Email

2021-04-28 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2021-04-29 02:42, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: Many legitimate ISPs (and even some cloud providers) block port 25 outbound, so yes. might be why even microsoft, dreamhost, ovh, have clients try port 465, 587, and even some do try port 993, i cant find that mta that do guide one this directio

Re: Clients Sending Phantom Email

2021-04-28 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 4/28/21 6:59 PM, Asai wrote: > Thank you, Wietse: >> >> This means that client systems are compromised with malware >> that sends email directly to the outside world, bypassing >> your mail server. >> >> To stop these, block outbound port 25 on your firewall for all >> systems except your mail s

Re: Clients Sending Phantom Email

2021-04-28 Thread Asai
Thank you, Wietse: This means that client systems are compromised with malware that sends email directly to the outside world, bypassing your mail server. To stop these, block outbound port 25 on your firewall for all systems except your mail server. Wietse Is it safe to assume that

Re: Clients Sending Phantom Email

2021-04-28 Thread Wietse Venema
Asai: > Greetings, > > We are getting reports, more and more, of email clients (Type App, Mac > Mail, iOS Mail) that seem to send email, and show that the email has > been sent on the client, but the mail server has no record of email ever > reaching the SMTP service, nor does it even seem that

Re: Clients Sending Phantom Email

2021-04-28 Thread Rob McGee
On 2021-04-28 11:28, Asai wrote: We are getting reports, more and more, of email clients (Type App, Mac Mail, iOS Mail) that seem to send email, and show that the email has been sent on the client, but the mail server has no record of email ever reaching the SMTP service, nor does it even seem th

Re: Clients Sending Phantom Email

2021-04-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
> On Apr 28, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Asai wrote: > > We are getting reports, more and more, of email clients (Type App, Mac Mail, > iOS Mail) that seem to send email, and show that the email has been sent on > the client, but the mail server has no record of email ever reaching the SMTP > service,

Re: Clients Sending Phantom Email

2021-04-28 Thread IL Ka
> > > We are getting reports, more and more, of email clients (Type App, Mac > Mail, iOS Mail) that seem to send email, and show that the email has > been sent on the client, but the mail server has no record of email ever > reaching the SMTP service, nor does it even seem that the client is > conn

Clients Sending Phantom Email

2021-04-28 Thread Asai
Greetings, We are getting reports, more and more, of email clients (Type App, Mac Mail, iOS Mail) that seem to send email, and show that the email has been sent on the client, but the mail server has no record of email ever reaching the SMTP service, nor does it even seem that the client is c