[pfx] Re: spf

2024-07-19 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
On 08.07.24 11:42, natan via Postfix-users wrote: What you propose use ? Maybe instead of not accepting such mail will better is change score in SA ? W dniu 15.07.2024 o 12:06, Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users pisze: This is a policy issue. You can choose your policy to be rejecting

[pfx] Re: spf

2024-07-19 Thread natan via Postfix-users
W dniu 15.07.2024 o 12:06, Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users pisze: On 08.07.24 11:42, natan via Postfix-users wrote: What you propose use ? Maybe instead of not accepting such mail will better is change score in SA ? This is a policy issue. You can choose your policy to be rejecting

[pfx] Re: spf

2024-07-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
On 08.07.24 11:42, natan via Postfix-users wrote: What you propose use ? Maybe instead of not accepting such mail will better is change score in SA ? This is a policy issue. You can choose your policy to be rejecting mail with spf=fail, both spf=fail and spf=softfail, or reject any mail whe

[pfx] Re: spf and Permerror

2024-07-08 Thread Scott Kitterman via Postfix-users
Did you read the error message: No valid SPF record for included domain: _spf.cyberfolks.pl: include:_spf.cyberfolks.pl. In fact, _spf.cyberfolks.pl does not have an SPF record. Either it needs to have one published or you need to remove the include. Scott K On July 8, 2024 2:47:54 PM UTC, n

[pfx] Re: spf and Permerror

2024-07-08 Thread natan via Postfix-users
Hi I try onother Permerror but I dont known why Jul  8 14:28:29 MX postfix/smtpd[48372]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s10b.cyber-folks.pl[193.17.184.42]: 550 5.7.24 : Recipient address rejected: Message rejected due to: SPF Permanent Error: No valid SPF record for included domain: _spf.cyberfol

[pfx] Re: spf

2024-07-08 Thread natan via Postfix-users
Hi What you propose use ? Maybe instead of not accepting such mail will better is change score in SA ? W dniu 8.07.2024 o 11:36, natan via Postfix-users pisze: Hi What value do you use in postfix-policyd-spf in PermError_reject ? HELO_reject = Fail Mail_From_reject = Fail #update 20240706 #P

[pfx] Re: spf

2024-07-08 Thread Jeff Pang via Postfix-users
I am using the default value: PermError_reject = True But it totally depends by you. On 2024-07-08 17:36, natan via Postfix-users wrote: Hi What value do you use in postfix-policyd-spf in PermError_reject ? HELO_reject = Fail Mail_From_reject = Fail #update 20240706 #PermError_reject = False

[pfx] Re: spf and Permerror

2024-06-27 Thread Carlos Velasco via Postfix-users
natan via Postfix-users escribió el 27/06/2024 a las 15:48: W dniu 27.06.2024 o 15:39, Scott Kitterman via Postfix-users pisze: Hi Scott Jun 27 15:39:06 MX policyd-spf[3729]: prepend Received-SPF: Permerror (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=200.28.23.150; helo=200-28-23-150.baf.movistar.cl

[pfx] Re: spf and Permerror

2024-06-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
On 27.06.24 15:30, natan via Postfix-users wrote: I have a strange problem with SPF and I honestly don't know what to pay attention to What is a Permerror in SPF In log i get: Jun 27 15:09:11 MX policyd-spf[57158]: prepend Received-SPF: Permerror (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=84.205

[pfx] Re: spf and Permerror

2024-06-27 Thread natan via Postfix-users
W dniu 27.06.2024 o 15:48, natan via Postfix-users pisze: W dniu 27.06.2024 o 15:39, Scott Kitterman via Postfix-users pisze: On June 27, 2024 1:30:37 PM UTC, natan via Postfix-users wrote: Hi I have a strange problem with SPF and I honestly don't know what to pay attention to What is a Per

[pfx] Re: spf and Permerror

2024-06-27 Thread natan via Postfix-users
W dniu 27.06.2024 o 15:39, Scott Kitterman via Postfix-users pisze: On June 27, 2024 1:30:37 PM UTC, natan via Postfix-users wrote: Hi I have a strange problem with SPF and I honestly don't know what to pay attention to What is a Permerror in SPF In log i get: Jun 27 15:09:11 MX policyd-sp

[pfx] Re: spf and Permerror

2024-06-27 Thread Scott Kitterman via Postfix-users
On June 27, 2024 1:30:37 PM UTC, natan via Postfix-users wrote: >Hi >I have a strange problem with SPF and I honestly don't know what to pay >attention to > >What is a Permerror in SPF >In log i get: > >Jun 27 15:09:11 MX policyd-spf[57158]: prepend Received-SPF: Permerror >(mailfrom) identit

[pfx] Re: SPF hostname and domainname

2024-06-21 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Peter via Postfix-users: > On 21/06/24 07:13, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote: > > Bounces are sent with the null envelope.from address which has no > > domain. Therefore, SPF applies policy to a surrogate: the hostname > > in the SMTP client's HELO/EHLO command (as if the envelope.from > > a

[pfx] Re: SPF hostname and domainname

2024-06-21 Thread Peter via Postfix-users
On 21/06/24 23:10, Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users wrote: Peter via Postfix-users skrev den 2024-06-21 08:45: SPF/DKIM/DMARC Checklist for (IMO) the best chance of getting your mail to be accepted: 1.  HELO banner should pass SPF. 2.  Envelope Sender should pass SPF. 3.  Envelope Se

[pfx] Re: SPF hostname and domainname

2024-06-21 Thread Peter via Postfix-users
On 21/06/24 21:49, Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-users wrote: Dnia 21.06.2024 o godz. 18:45:15 Peter via Postfix-users pisze: SPF/DKIM/DMARC Checklist for (IMO) the best chance of getting your mail to be accepted: 1. HELO banner should pass SPF. 2. Envelope Sender should pass SPF. 3. Envelope

[pfx] Re: SPF hostname and domainname

2024-06-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
Peter via Postfix-users skrev den 2024-06-21 08:45: SPF/DKIM/DMARC Checklist for (IMO) the best chance of getting your mail to be accepted: 1. HELO banner should pass SPF. 2. Envelope Sender should pass SPF. 3. Envelope Sender domain should align with the From: header domain. 4. Message

[pfx] Re: SPF hostname and domainname

2024-06-21 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-users
Dnia 21.06.2024 o godz. 18:45:15 Peter via Postfix-users pisze: > SPF/DKIM/DMARC Checklist for (IMO) the best chance of getting your > mail to be accepted: > > 1. HELO banner should pass SPF. > > 2. Envelope Sender should pass SPF. > > 3. Envelope Sender domain should align with the From: hea

[pfx] Re: SPF hostname and domainname

2024-06-21 Thread Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users
Peter via Postfix-users skrev den 2024-06-21 08:45: On 21/06/24 07:13, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote: SPF/DKIM/DMARC Checklist for (IMO) the best chance of getting your mail to be accepted: 1. HELO banner should pass SPF. 2. Envelope Sender should pass SPF. 3. Envelope Sender do

[pfx] Re: SPF hostname and domainname

2024-06-20 Thread Peter via Postfix-users
On 21/06/24 07:13, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote: Bounces are sent with the null envelope.from address which has no domain. Therefore, SPF applies policy to a surrogate: the hostname in the SMTP client's HELO/EHLO command (as if the envelope.from address was postmaster@helo-argument). Th

[pfx] Re: SPF hostname and domainname

2024-06-20 Thread Emmanuel Fusté via Postfix-users
Le 21/06/2024 à 00:13, John Levine a écrit : It appears that Emmanuel Fusté via Postfix-users said: In the general case (not null sender), HELO SPF validation does not interfere with DMARC as DMARC only use the MAIL FROM identity. There was historically a bug in some DMARC implementation witch

[pfx] Re: SPF hostname and domainname

2024-06-20 Thread John Levine via Postfix-users
It appears that Emmanuel Fusté via Postfix-users said: >In the general case (not null sender), HELO SPF validation does not >interfere with DMARC as DMARC only use the MAIL FROM identity. >There was historically a bug in some DMARC implementation witch evaluate >whatever SPF identity check that

[pfx] Re: SPF hostname and domainname

2024-06-20 Thread Emmanuel Fusté via Postfix-users
Le 20/06/2024 à 21:13, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users a écrit : Bounces are sent with the null envelope.from address which has no domain. Therefore, SPF applies policy to a surrogate: the hostname in the SMTP client's HELO/EHLO command (as if the envelope.from address was postmaster@helo-argumen

[pfx] Re: SPF hostname and domainname

2024-06-20 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Bounces are sent with the null envelope.from address which has no domain. Therefore, SPF applies policy to a surrogate: the hostname in the SMTP client's HELO/EHLO command (as if the envelope.from address was postmaster@helo-argument). This helo-argument is by default the value of the Postfix myho

[pfx] Re: SPF hostname and domainname

2024-06-20 Thread postfix--- via Postfix-users
So there's a confusion between the hostname of the mailer and the doamin to be used for the SPF check. Is anybody else seeing this ? Yes, I had to recently add an "a:" record to an SPF (for the sending hostname) as I was seeing some of these I think. Im confused by the language being used.

[pfx] Re: SPF hostname and domainname

2024-06-20 Thread Gilgongo via Postfix-users
On Thu, 20 Jun 2024, 2:01 pm Emmanuel Seyman via Postfix-users, < postfix-users@postfix.org> wrote: > > So there's a confusion between the hostname of the mailer and the > doamin to be used for the SPF check. Is anybody else seeing this ? > Yes, I had to recently add an "a:" record to an SPF (for

[pfx] Re: SPF hostname and domainname

2024-06-20 Thread Bill Cole via Postfix-users
On 2024-06-20 at 09:00:35 UTC-0400 (Thu, 20 Jun 2024 15:00:35 +0200) Emmanuel Seyman via Postfix-users is rumored to have said: Hello, all. Since yesterday, I've started seeing email from my servers getting rejected due to SPF problems. 550 5.7.23 : Sender address rejected: Message rejected

[pfx] Re: SPF format question

2024-06-09 Thread Scott Kitterman via Postfix-users
On June 9, 2024 12:17:38 PM UTC, Jeff Peng via Postfix-users wrote: >Hello > >If I have a mx server: mx.host.com whose ip is 1.2.3.4. > >The domain.com who use this mx server may have the following SPF. > >v=spf1 mx ~all >v=spf1 ip4:1.2.3.4 ~all >v=spf1 a:mx.host.com ~all >v=spf1 mx:domain.com

[pfx] Re: SPF questions

2023-06-12 Thread Bill Cole via Postfix-users
On 2023-06-12 at 04:19:12 UTC-0400 (Mon, 12 Jun 2023 20:19:12 +1200) Peter via Postfix-users is rumored to have said: > Technically it's an invalid MX record because MX records must point to a > hostname, not an IP address. > > They are probably trying (but failing) to implement a null MX record

[pfx] Re: SPF questions

2023-06-12 Thread Peter via Postfix-users
Technically it's an invalid MX record because MX records must point to a hostname, not an IP address. They are probably trying (but failing) to implement a null MX record: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7505 Peter On 12/06/23 19:50, wesley--- via Postfix-users wrote: Note there is also

[pfx] Re: SPF questions

2023-06-12 Thread postfix--- via Postfix-users
I saw some domains have MX pointing to 127.0.0.1. what does this mean? This will tell the sender of the email to connect to 127.0.0.1 which is itself. It will send the mail program chasing its own tail. ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@

[pfx] Re: SPF questions

2023-06-12 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
Note there is also RFC 7505 "Null MX" where you simply add "IN MX 0 ." to any DNS name you wish not to send or accept e-mail. (this is designed to work around implicie MX records when A record is present). On 12.06.23 07:50, wesley--- via Postfix-users wrote: I saw some domains have MX pointing

[pfx] Re: SPF questions

2023-06-12 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
Dnia 10.06.2023 o godz. 17:33:06 Gerd Hoerst via Postfix-users pisze: my entry e.g.    600 IN TXT    "v=spf1 a mx -all" that mean all servers listet in MX enrties of my domain are allowed to send emails from my domain So if you receive an email from my domain which are not sent from on

[pfx] Re: SPF questions

2023-06-10 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-users
Dnia 10.06.2023 o godz. 17:33:06 Gerd Hoerst via Postfix-users pisze: > my entry e.g. > >    600 IN TXT    "v=spf1 a mx -all" > > that mean all servers listet in MX enrties of my domain are allowed > to send emails from my domain > > So if you receive an email from my domain which are no

[pfx] Re: SPF questions

2023-06-10 Thread Gerd Hoerst via Postfix-users
Hi ! The dns entry provides info from which mailservers the receiptient should only accpet email from entire domain... whta the receiptiten is doing with that information is up to your settings in postfix my entry e.g.    600 IN TXT    "v=spf1 a mx -all" that mean all servers listet in

[pfx] Re: SPF questions

2023-06-08 Thread Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users
wesley--- via Postfix-users skrev den 2023-06-09 02:17: Hello, for this spf setting, bar.org. 3600 IN TXT "v=spf1 -all" no ip addresses were provided. does it mean all IP are passed, or no IP can pass? no ip will pass essentially all mails is rejected from that domain if recipient enforc

[pfx] Re: SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record

2023-04-13 Thread David Bürgin via Postfix-users
Jaroslaw Rafa: > Dnia 12.04.2023 o godz. 15:43:07 Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users pisze: >> OK, I see. >> So should the client (mail.example.com) then have it's own SPF record, >> in addition to the domain itself (example.com) ? > > If you plan to send mail with senders addresses as > someth.

[pfx] Re: SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record

2023-04-12 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-users
Dnia 12.04.2023 o godz. 15:43:07 Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users pisze: > OK, I see. > So should the client (mail.example.com) then have it's own SPF record, > in addition to the domain itself (example.com) ? If you plan to send mail with senders addresses as someth...@mail.example.com, then

[pfx] Re: SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record

2023-04-12 Thread Bill Cole via Postfix-users
On 2023-04-12 at 06:41:02 UTC-0400 (Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:41:02 +0200) Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users <400the...@gmx.ch> is rumored to have said: Hello, I have domain mydomain.com, with mx record: $ host -t mx mydomain.com mail.mydomain.com and I have SPF record on my domain: host

[pfx] Re: SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record

2023-04-12 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote in |fantomas.fantomas.sk descriptive text "v=spf1 a -all" On April 12, 2023 2:00:01 PM UTC, Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users wrote: Interesting this still works for you. I had to change to ~all because some behind-alias-expansion-and-forward collocutor de-fact

[pfx] Re: SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record

2023-04-12 Thread Scott Kitterman via Postfix-users
On April 12, 2023 2:00:01 PM UTC, Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users wrote: >Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote in > : > |On 12.04.23 12:41, Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users wrote: > ... > |>Does it mean that I should either: > |> > |> 1) create SPF record for mail.mydomain.com > ... > |I would

[pfx] Re: SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record

2023-04-12 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote in : |On 12.04.23 12:41, Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users wrote: ... |>Does it mean that I should either: |> |> 1) create SPF record for mail.mydomain.com ... |I would do the first: | |fantomas.fantomas.sk descriptive text "v=spf1 a -all" Interesting thi

[pfx] Re: SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record

2023-04-12 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users: > > On 2023-04-12 15:30, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote: > > Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users: > >> > On 2023-04-12 14:48, Byung-Hee HWANG via Postfix-users wrote: > > > > The smtp_helo_name used in the Postfix SMTP client should resolve to the >

[pfx] Re: SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record

2023-04-12 Thread Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users
> On 2023-04-12 15:30, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote: Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users: > On 2023-04-12 14:48, Byung-Hee HWANG via Postfix-users wrote: The smtp_helo_name used in the Postfix SMTP client should resolve to the client IP address that is seen by a remote SMTP server.

[pfx] Re: SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record

2023-04-12 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users: > > On 2023-04-12 14:48, Byung-Hee HWANG via Postfix-users wrote: > >>2) change smtp_helo_name to > >> > >> smtp_helo_name = $mydomain > > > > It is very strange, i think. > > what do you mean? > is it strange to use example.com, instead of mail.exam

[pfx] Re: SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record

2023-04-12 Thread Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users
> On 2023-04-12 14:48, Byung-Hee HWANG via Postfix-users wrote: 2) change smtp_helo_name to smtp_helo_name = $mydomain It is very strange, i think. what do you mean? is it strange to use example.com, instead of mail.example.com as smtp_helo_name, when the smtp client is actually mail

[pfx] Re: SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record

2023-04-12 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG via Postfix-users
> 2) change smtp_helo_name to > > smtp_helo_name = $mydomain It is very strange, i think. Sincerely, -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))// ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfix.org To unsubscribe send an email to postfix-users-le...@pos

[pfx] Re: SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record

2023-04-12 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
On 12.04.23 12:41, Fourhundred Thecat via Postfix-users wrote: I have domain mydomain.com, with mx record: Use example.com unless you are real owner of mydomain.com I have no SPF record on mail.mydomain.com itself. Now, when I check my email score on mail-tester.com, it says: SPF_HELO_NONE