Re: testssl reports issues with "Session Resumption" & "OCSP stapling" ; expected status/use for Postfix?

2022-01-07 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Jan 08, 2022 at 01:05:41PM +1100, raf wrote: > Probably no real harm done. OCSP stapling is just a way to make it > more private and more efficient for a web browser to verify that a > website's certificate hasn't been revoked, by providing that > information in-band, so the browser doesn'

Re: testssl reports issues with "Session Resumption" & "OCSP stapling" ; expected status/use for Postfix?

2022-01-07 Thread raf
On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 05:47:55PM -0500, PGNet Dev wrote: > > Postfix has no CRL or OCSP support, and none is planned. > > other than reporting the bad result, does the current (bad) config cause any > actual mail delivery breakage? Probably no real harm done. OCSP stapling is just a way to m

Re: smtp_tls_security_level for mandatory TLS and optonal DANE

2022-01-07 Thread raf
On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 07:28:32AM -0500, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 11:34:32AM +0100, Charlotte 🦝 Delenk wrote: > > > I was trying to harden my postfix configuration and was looking into > > making TLS mandatory, as well as verifying the TLS Certificate using > > DANE w

Re: testssl reports issues with "Session Resumption" & "OCSP stapling" ; expected status/use for Postfix?

2022-01-07 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 06:17:45PM -0500, PGNet Dev wrote: > > Absent DANE, this is all security theatre. > > yup. which is why i'm doing the step1 cleanups etc to get my own > mistakes out of the way ... on the way to DNSSEC/DANE. Be sure to do it right, or not at all. It does nobody a favour

Re: testssl reports issues with "Session Resumption" & "OCSP stapling" ; expected status/use for Postfix?

2022-01-07 Thread PGNet Dev
i've clearly not noticed my mistake 'til now, and afaict have seen no unexplained breakage. dunno if i should've and missed it, or it's just noisy and ignorable? Best to not solicit misbehaviour, even if typically nothing bad happens. sure. not hoping to avoid fixing it! asking if i should'v

Re: testssl reports issues with "Session Resumption" & "OCSP stapling" ; expected status/use for Postfix?

2022-01-07 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 05:47:55PM -0500, PGNet Dev wrote: > > Postfix has no CRL or OCSP support, and none is planned. > > other than reporting the bad result, does the current (bad) config > cause any actual mail delivery breakage? It could, if the sending MTA implements OCSP and honours the e

Re: testssl reports issues with "Session Resumption" & "OCSP stapling" ; expected status/use for Postfix?

2022-01-07 Thread PGNet Dev
Session ID resumption is by default disabled. This is a feature, let the client store a session ticket if it wants, otherwise it does a fresh handshake. This makes sense for SMTP. OCSP staplingnot offered ???OCSP must staple extension requires OCSP stapling

Re: testssl reports issues with "Session Resumption" & "OCSP stapling" ; expected status/use for Postfix?

2022-01-07 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 08:33:52AM -0500, PGNet Dev wrote: >Session Ticket RFC 5077 hint 7200 seconds, session tickets keys seems > to be rotated < daily Keys are rotated as soon as possible, which is 2 * active lifetime. Initially the key is used to encrypt new tickets, later it is only

Re: No delivery delay notification for particular recipients?

2022-01-07 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse Venema: > tobs...@brain-force.ch: > > Yes postmaster as recipient of delivery status notifications. I have > > set > > > > > notify_classes = bounce, 2bounce, delay, policy, protocol, resource, > > software > > > > so postmaster receives delay warnings in general on my system. But it > > a

Re: No delivery delay notification for particular recipients?

2022-01-07 Thread Wietse Venema
tobs...@brain-force.ch: > Yes postmaster as recipient of delivery status notifications. I have > set > > > notify_classes = bounce, 2bounce, delay, policy, protocol, resource, > software > > so postmaster receives delay warnings in general on my system. But it > also receives warnings for message

Re: testssl reports issues with "Session Resumption" & "OCSP stapling" ; expected status/use for Postfix?

2022-01-07 Thread PGNet Dev
The other ??? item, "Session Resumption   Tickets: yes, ID resumption test failed, pls report" I've not found any guidance on at all, yet. For postfix, do I care? And if so, what/where is a fix? did find this comment at SF, "Certbot — Post-Handshake New Session Ticket a

Re: No delivery delay notification for particular recipients?

2022-01-07 Thread tobster
Yes postmaster as recipient of delivery status notifications. I have set > notify_classes = bounce, 2bounce, delay, policy, protocol, resource, software so postmaster receives delay warnings in general on my system. But it also receives warnings for messages where the one and only RCPT TO of the

Re: No delivery delay notification for particular recipients?

2022-01-07 Thread Wietse Venema
tobs...@brain-force.ch: > Wietse > > seems the ugly hack does not work for delay messages to postmaster. postmaster as the RECIPIENT of copies of delivery status notifications? By default, postmaster does not receive copies of delivery notifications. So that is one way to fix this. If you tur

Re: smtp_tls_security_level for mandatory TLS and optonal DANE

2022-01-07 Thread Charlotte 🦝 Delenk
On 07.01.22 13:28, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 11:34:32AM +0100, Charlotte 🦝 Delenk wrote: I was trying to harden my postfix configuration and was looking into making TLS mandatory, as well as verifying the TLS Certificate using DANE wherever possible. TLS mandatory for del

Re: https://www.postfix.org/ in trouble

2022-01-07 Thread Kris Deugau
raf wrote: Being flippant, it would protect against a man-in-the-middle-attack where someone tricks you into reading false online documentation. :-) Why bother? Most of us can misread the docs perfectly well all on our own... -kgd

testssl reports issues with "Session Resumption" & "OCSP stapling" ; expected status/use for Postfix?

2022-01-07 Thread PGNet Dev
i'm prepping postfix tls on the way to DANE implementation current check with testssl -t smtp mx.example.com:25 reports, Testing server defaults (Server Hello) TLS extensions (standard)"renegotiation info/#65281" "EC point formats/#11" "session ticket/#35"

Re: No delivery delay notification for particular recipients?

2022-01-07 Thread tobster
Wietse seems the ugly hack does not work for delay messages to postmaster. Is it possible it only works for delay messages to sender and not for postmaster delay notifications? I still got delay warnings in my postmaster box using the ugly hack. Anyway changed back to graveyard-mode ;-) Cheers

Re: smtp_tls_security_level for mandatory TLS and optonal DANE

2022-01-07 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 11:34:32AM +0100, Charlotte 🦝 Delenk wrote: > I was trying to harden my postfix configuration and was looking into > making TLS mandatory, as well as verifying the TLS Certificate using > DANE wherever possible. TLS mandatory for delivery to the world at large? Or is yo

Re: https://www.postfix.org/ in trouble

2022-01-07 Thread Nilo César Teixeira
> > > It also prevents some browsers from indicating that a > site is "insecure", but anyone going directly to > www.postfix.org will know better than to worry about > that. > Yes, the suggestion was mainly to ease new direct user accesses to postfix.org, which nowadays don't require the protocol

smtp_tls_security_level for mandatory TLS and optonal DANE

2022-01-07 Thread Charlotte 🦝 Delenk
Hi, I was trying to harden my postfix configuration and was looking into making TLS mandatory, as well as verifying the TLS Certificate using DANE wherever possible. According to the documentation of smtp_tls_security_level, you can either set the value to "encrypt" for mandatory tls or "dan

Re: No delivery delay notification for particular recipients?

2022-01-07 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
With an ugly hack we could make these a "notify-none" recipient I always like ugly hacks ;-) This /^(RCPT\s+TO:\s On 07.01.22 08:00, tobs...@brain-force.ch wrote: in command_filter seems to do the job. Just wonder could a time-unit be specified instead of NEVER? no, this is a SMTP command