Re: Enabling Postscreen'

2013-04-06 Thread Wietse Venema
LuKreme: > > I've just updated my postfix install to 2.8 patch 14 (from 2.7) > and am looking into enabling postscreen. I've read the > http://www.postfix.org/POSTSCREEN_README.html document, and it > looks like I should replace my old rbi checks with the new > postscreen_dnsbl_sites value, but wh

Enabling Postscreen

2013-04-06 Thread LuKreme
I've just updated my postfix install to 2.8 patch 14 (from 2.7) and am looking into enabling postscreen. I've read the http://www.postfix.org/POSTSCREEN_README.html document, and it looks like I should replace my old rbi checks with the new postscreen_dnsbl_sites value, but what about some of

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Viktor Dukhovni: > On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 04:30:59PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: > > > > My best guess is that Wietse will likely adopt something functionally > > > equivalent wrt the compile-time override for DEF_MAIL_OWNER and > > > DEF_SGID_GROUP. > > > > No override is needed. > > > > You c

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 09:01:54PM +, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > I think it would be more consistent to also allow mail_owner and > setgid_group to have appropriate compile-time defaults for the > target platform whether installing locally, or building packages. > > That said, the OP can of cou

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 04:30:59PM -0400, Wietse Venema wrote: > > My best guess is that Wietse will likely adopt something functionally > > equivalent wrt the compile-time override for DEF_MAIL_OWNER and > > DEF_SGID_GROUP. > > No override is needed. > > You can trivially set these at installat

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse Venema: > Viktor Dukhovni: > > On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 12:17:53PM -0700, ixlo...@sent.at wrote: > > > > > Will your patch be added to main source tree at any time, or is it > > > something I'll need to tweak/modify & apply when I upgrade? > > > > My best guess is that Wietse will likely ad

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Viktor Dukhovni: > On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 12:17:53PM -0700, ixlo...@sent.at wrote: > > > Will your patch be added to main source tree at any time, or is it > > something I'll need to tweak/modify & apply when I upgrade? > > My best guess is that Wietse will likely adopt something functionally >

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.04.2013 21:22, schrieb Viktor Dukhovni: > Since the OP is installing into /usr/local, a non-packaged version > is fine. I would go further and install into: > > /usr/local/postfix/${version}/{etc,sbin,libexec,man,html}/ > > with "sendmail", "mailq" and "newaliases" in > > /u

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.04.2013 21:22, schrieb Viktor Dukhovni: > On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 08:38:41PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >>> (1) I'm no longer intersted in someone's 'downstream idea' of what >>> version and how I should configure, build & use postfix >> >> what exactly did you not understand in "based

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread ixloran
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > Will your patch be added to main source tree at any time, or is it > > something I'll need to tweak/modify & apply when I upgrade? > > My best guess is that Wietse will likely adopt something functionally > equivalent wrt the compile-tim

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 12:17:53PM -0700, ixlo...@sent.at wrote: > Will your patch be added to main source tree at any time, or is it > something I'll need to tweak/modify & apply when I upgrade? My best guess is that Wietse will likely adopt something functionally equivalent wrt the compile-time

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 08:38:41PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > (1) I'm no longer intersted in someone's 'downstream idea' of what > > version and how I should configure, build & use postfix > > what exactly did you not understand in "based on"? No need to hammer your point in. There's more

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread ixloran
Hi Viktor, On Sat, Apr 6, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > You can either create a "postdrop" group, or with the patch re-use the > existing "maildrop" group, which makes it easier to transition between > the system and your custom Postfix, since file permissions will be the > same. I r

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread ixloran
Huh? On Sat, Apr 6, 2013, at 11:38 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > you missed COMPLETLY what i saied Well there's ONE thing you said that makes some sense ...

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.04.2013 20:25, schrieb ixlo...@sent.at: > On Sat, Apr 6, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> and why do you not build a package based on your distros one? > > Because > > (1) I'm no longer intersted in someone's 'downstream idea' of what > version and how I should configure, build

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread ixloran
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > and why do you not build a package based on your distros one? Because (1) I'm no longer intersted in someone's 'downstream idea' of what version and how I should configure, build & use postfix. (2) I've had enough of being told "go talk to

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread ixloran
Viktor, Thanks for the answers. I thing I have what I need for now; I'll give it a try in a but. Thanks! On Sat, Apr 6, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 10:53:54AM -0700, ixlo...@sent.at wrote: > > > > I am attaching a patch for "MacOSX", where a bare-metal "

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.04.2013 19:53, schrieb ixlo...@sent.at: > make upgrade > ... > make: Nothing to be done for `update'. > /bin/sh postfix-install -non-interactive > postfix-install: Error: "postdrop" needs an entry in the group > file. > Remember, "postdrop" needs a dedica

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 10:53:54AM -0700, ixlo...@sent.at wrote: > > I am attaching a patch for "MacOSX", where a bare-metal "make > > upgrade" with no main.cf fails, because Apple defines "postfix" as > > a nickname for "_postfix" and "postdrop" as a nickname for "_postdrop", > > so with default

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread ixloran
Hi On Sat, Apr 6, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 09:25:28AM -0700, ixlo...@sent.at wrote: > > > "The non-interactive version ("make upgrade") needs the > > /etc/postfix/main.cf file from a previous installation. > > It works just fine without one. If you don

Re: misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ? (and MacOSX patch)

2013-04-06 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 09:25:28AM -0700, ixlo...@sent.at wrote: > "The non-interactive version ("make upgrade") needs the > /etc/postfix/main.cf file from a previous installation. It works just fine without one. If you don't want to build a package, but want non-interactive installation, that's

misunderstanding INSTALL "vs" compile-time config ?

2013-04-06 Thread ixloran
Hi, I'm finally taking the plunge and moving from distro-pacakged Postfix to building from source. I'm reading INSTALL.html 4.4 - Overriding built-in parameter default settings All Postfix configuration parameters can be changed by editing a Postfix configuration file, except for one: the param

Re: R: Scheduling policies for outgoing smtp server

2013-04-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Giorgio Luchi: > Thanks for your reply. > > We are an Italian Telco/ISP company, so we offer outgoing SMTP > service to our customers. > For this service, we have always thought that the best way to pick > up messages from the queue, it is to do round-robin based on IP > (or authenticated user if

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Re: Trouble configuring backup MX to reject unauth destination

2013-04-06 Thread Titanus Eramius
Solved it :-) When sending to unknown users, Postfix now rejects the mail with "User unknown in virtual mailbox table", and it does so for hosted (that is, virtual mailbox domains) domains as well. It seems the SRS-daemon* I have been using with the main.cf parameters recipient_canonical_maps rec

R: Scheduling policies for outgoing smtp server

2013-04-06 Thread Giorgio Luchi
Thanks for your reply. We are an Italian Telco/ISP company, so we offer outgoing SMTP service to our customers. For this service, we have always thought that the best way to pick up messages from the queue, it is to do round-robin based on IP (or authenticated user if used) of the sender, to ob