Re: Delivery to a websocket gateway

2010-11-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Liam put forth on 11/6/2010 10:39 PM: > Websocket is a new protocol to enable persistent, full-duplex, efficient > connections to web servers. That's vague marketing gobbledeygook. Are you trying to accomplish some actual task other than playing with this new persistent, full-duplex, efficient p

Re: Delivery to a websocket gateway

2010-11-06 Thread Liam
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Jeroen Geilman wrote: > You're again mixing up clients and servers. > > I'd need more pertinent information to hazard a guess what you're trying to > achieve here. > Here's a schematic: [postfix] >--smtp/lmtp--> [custom gateway] >--websocket--> [webso

Re: Delivery to a websocket gateway

2010-11-06 Thread Jeroen Geilman
On 11/07/2010 02:59 AM, Liam wrote: I need to have postfix deliver email bound for a specific subdomain (e.g. websock.mydomain.xyz) to a websocket gateway I'm coding (in Node.js). I don't know what that is, but postfix is an SMTP server. I've looked over the architecture docs, and would app

Delivery to a websocket gateway

2010-11-06 Thread Liam
I need to have postfix deliver email bound for a specific subdomain (e.g. websock.mydomain.xyz) to a websocket gateway I'm coding (in Node.js). I've looked over the architecture docs, and would appreciate input on which delivery method is most simple/robust to implement. The messages in question

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Will Fong
On Nov 6, 2010, at 3:14 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > I've gotten myself into a somewhat heated discussion... which seems to > be the only kind I get into these days... on another mailing list > regarding the spam outflow filtering capabilities of one particular > non-Posfix based e-mail servic

Re: DKIM

2010-11-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Noel Jones put forth on 11/6/2010 11:53 AM: > On 11/6/2010 11:48 AM, Noel Jones wrote: >> On 11/6/2010 11:16 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >>> Noel Jones put forth on 11/6/2010 10:05 AM: >> The checkdbl.pl reject rate is far less than 1 per recipient >> per day here. Any rule that only rejects 1 out of

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Michael J Wise
On Nov 6, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Michael J Wise put forth on 11/6/2010 11:02 AM: > >> Adding locks after the fact with existing contracts in place can get messy. >> But we are thinking about it, and are working on rate limiting for some >> customers. >> The thing is, we don't

Re: DKIM

2010-11-06 Thread Noel Jones
On 11/6/2010 11:48 AM, Noel Jones wrote: On 11/6/2010 11:16 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Noel Jones put forth on 11/6/2010 10:05 AM: The checkdbl.pl reject rate is far less than 1 per recipient per day here. Any rule that only rejects 1 out of 1000 messages that pass prior rules -- regardless of th

Re: DKIM

2010-11-06 Thread Noel Jones
On 11/6/2010 11:16 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Noel Jones put forth on 11/6/2010 10:05 AM: On 11/6/2010 9:04 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: There's already demand for DNS lookups for header substrings. This resulted in a header_checks plugin by Sahil, if I recall correctly. Native support for DNS looku

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Michael J Wise put forth on 11/6/2010 11:02 AM: > Adding locks after the fact with existing contracts in place can get messy. > But we are thinking about it, and are working on rate limiting for some > customers. > The thing is, we don't want to "Punish" people as such, we want to FIX THE > PROB

Re: DKIM

2010-11-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Noel Jones put forth on 11/6/2010 10:05 AM: > On 11/6/2010 9:04 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: >> There's already demand for DNS lookups for header substrings. This >> resulted in a header_checks plugin by Sahil, if I recall correctly. >> >> Native support for DNS lookups from header_checks fragments cou

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Michael J Wise
On Nov 6, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > I'm guessing your perspective is going to be different that most users > on this list, who are, I'm guessing, not ISPs or service providers per > se. Yeah. We have about a thousand servers currently doing mail classification. > Thus, I'm guessi

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Michael J Wise put forth on 11/6/2010 9:53 AM: > But since RFG is taking a crash course in outflow filtering, I also would be > VERY interested in whatever suggestions the list membership might have about > ways to do it well. > > Currently, the service where I am employed uses automated proces

Re: DKIM

2010-11-06 Thread Noel Jones
On 11/6/2010 9:04 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: There's already demand for DNS lookups for header substrings. This resulted in a header_checks plugin by Sahil, if I recall correctly. Native support for DNS lookups from header_checks fragments could look like this: I think it's premature to design D

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Michael J Wise
On Nov 6, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > Hello again friends. Long time no see. No, we were speaking yesterday, as I recall... > I've gotten myself into a somewhat heated discussion... Well, yes. > ... which seems to > be the only kind I get into these days... on another maili

DKIM (was: DNS Whitelisting)

2010-11-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Victor Duchovni: > There will at some point be interest in DNSWL support for verified DKIM > "d=" domains. For now that's out of scope (milters, pre-queue filters, ...) > I've recently starting using the OpenDKIM library, ... it is fairly easy > to support. If there is ever interest in directly sup

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ronald F. Guilmette put forth on 11/6/2010 5:14 AM: > Hello again friends. Long time no see. > > I've gotten myself into a somewhat heated discussion... which seems to > be the only kind I get into these days... on another mailing list > regarding the spam outflow filtering capabilities of one pa

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Ronald F. Guilmette: > > > Hello again friends. Long time no see. > > I've gotten myself into a somewhat heated discussion... which seems to > be the only kind I get into these days... on another mailing list > regarding the spam outflow filtering capabilities of one particular > non-Posfix bas

Re: DNS Whitelisting

2010-11-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Noel Jones put forth on 11/5/2010 11:04 AM: > On 11/5/2010 10:03 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: >> This is now implemented with minor changes. > > Excellent! Looking forward to a test drive. Excellent indeed. Thank you for implementing this Wietse. Jerrale, it appears Wietse just solved your problem

Re: serious bug with check_client_access

2010-11-06 Thread mouss
Le 05/11/2010 09:48, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : On 2010-11-04 23:36:04 -0300, Reinaldo de Carvalho wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Yes, it will generate *some* lookups, but it doesn't say exactly *which* lookups. That was precisely my question. - client hostname

Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
Hello again friends. Long time no see. I've gotten myself into a somewhat heated discussion... which seems to be the only kind I get into these days... on another mailing list regarding the spam outflow filtering capabilities of one particular non-Posfix based e-mail service. For the sake of c

Re: serious bug with check_client_access

2010-11-06 Thread mouss
Le 05/11/2010 10:03, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : [hash/cdb/...] - if parent_domain_matches_subdomains contains smtpd_access: here, the search list is S = ( lab1.lab2.lab3.example.com, lab2.lab3.example.com, lab3.example.com ..., com, 1.2.3.4, 1.2.3, 1.2, 1 ) so postfix will search for each