Re: migrate from qmail to postfix

2010-07-04 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
Asif, * Asif Iqbal : > well, I am looking for suggestions on how people took care of the > dot-qmail part when > they migrated from qmail to postfix. going back to my original email, > I saw some suggestions > how people did just that. but bringing that up to see if those steps > are relevant. ca

Re: [Postfix-Users] Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 11:31:03PM -0700, junkyardma...@verizon.net wrote: > What is your objection? For the love of $deity *STOP* top-posting. Thank you. You wanted an objection? There it is. John -- "Thinking impli

Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread JunkYardMail1
Very aware spammers can create their own domains and and SPF records. They can do essentially the same thing with any anti spam measures. And I have see a number of them do just that, an SPF record of entire IPv4 address space (0.0.0.0/0). But guess what, everyone of them has been in an RHSBL

Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread JunkYardMail1
What is your objection? -- From: "John Levine" Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:48 PM To: Cc: Subject: Re: Postfix.org SPF Anyone opposed to the postfix.org domain publishing an SPF record? Yes. Now, can you go away, please? R's, John, MAAWG s

Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread Stan Hoeppner
junkyardma...@verizon.net put forth on 7/4/2010 9:53 PM: > What is stupid is to be so opposed to anti spam tools that have no > significant downside. The problem is it has no significant upside either, which is why most sites don't use it as an anti spam measure. Since spammers can simply create

Re: migrate from qmail to postfix

2010-07-04 Thread Asif Iqbal
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: > On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 01:05:21 -0400, Asif Iqbal wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: >> > On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 23:55:48 -0400, Asif Iqbal wrote: >> > >> >> Well, I was actually looking for specific document(s) tha

Re: migrate from qmail to postfix

2010-07-04 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 01:05:21 -0400, Asif Iqbal wrote: > On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 23:55:48 -0400, Asif Iqbal wrote: > > > >> Well, I was actually looking for specific document(s) that discusses > >> qmail to postfix migration.  Also, looking

Re: migrate from qmail to postfix

2010-07-04 Thread Asif Iqbal
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: > On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 23:55:48 -0400, Asif Iqbal wrote: > >> Well, I was actually looking for specific document(s) that discusses >> qmail to postfix migration.  Also, looking for something that covers >> the dot-qmail, seems like the hardest

Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread John Levine
>Anyone opposed to the postfix.org domain publishing an SPF record? Yes. Now, can you go away, please? R's, John, MAAWG senior technical advisor, among other things

Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread JunkYardMail1
My original post was regarding postfix. But you and others who seemed more interested in taking it off topic to squelch the request for postfix.org to publish an SPF record. I oblige the challenge and then you all start complain about thread being off topic. Well it wouldn't be off topic if

Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 21:08:58 -0700, junkyardma...@verizon.net wrote: [blah blah blah] > It is simply becoming unnecessary to accept email from domains which > do not publish an SPF record to let receiving domains know the systems > that are authorized to transfer email for them. And doing so c

Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread JunkYardMail1
US financial services industry group endorses SPF, so most banks, credit unions, brokerages, etc. publish an SPF record. MAAWG: "At the very least, senders should incorporate SPF records for their mailing domains". Austrailan DoD Recommends SPF Google.com, GoogleMail.com, Gmail.com, Comcast.

Re: migrate from qmail to postfix

2010-07-04 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 23:55:48 -0400, Asif Iqbal wrote: > Well, I was actually looking for specific document(s) that discusses > qmail to postfix migration. Also, looking for something that covers > the dot-qmail, seems like the hardest part to migrate over. You were given, among other things, s

Re: migrate from qmail to postfix

2010-07-04 Thread Asif Iqbal
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Jeroen Geilman wrote: > On 07/04/2010 01:38 AM, Asif Iqbal wrote: > > Hi All > > I am planning to migrate from qmail to postfix. > > Currently our qmail uses QMAILQUEUE, qmail-scanner, clamd, > spamassassin, rbldnsd, greylite, qmail-pop, qmail-ldap, virtuals and > e

Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, July 04, 2010 10:51:32 pm junkyardma...@verizon.net wrote: > Yahoo has ulterior motives? They wish to push their domain keys. > > Others probably likewise have ulterior motives. > > Do you also oppose SPF, and if so what is your motives? > Please stop. This is offtopic for this list

Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread Matt Hayes
n 07/04/2010 10:53 PM, junkyardma...@verizon.net wrote: What is stupid is to be so opposed to anti spam tools that have no significant downside. Makes one wonder about true motives. -- From: "Matt Hayes" Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:29 PM To: Su

Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread JunkYardMail1
What is stupid is to be so opposed to anti spam tools that have no significant downside. Makes one wonder about true motives. -- From: "Matt Hayes" Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:29 PM To: Subject: Re: Postfix.org SPF On 07/04/2010 10:20 PM, jun

Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread JunkYardMail1
Yahoo has ulterior motives? They wish to push their domain keys. Others probably likewise have ulterior motives. Do you also oppose SPF, and if so what is your motives? -- From: "mouss" Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:29 PM To: Subject: Re: Post

Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread Matt Hayes
On 07/04/2010 10:20 PM, junkyardma...@verizon.net wrote: Some do not accept email from domains whose owner does not publish the servers they authorize to transfer mail for their domain. -- From: "Sahil Tandon" Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 11:53 A

Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread mouss
junkyardma...@verizon.net a écrit : > Some do not accept email from domains whose owner does not publish the > servers they authorize to transfer mail for their domain. > Then it's their problem. Please don't revive the old spf thread. spf has fans and opponents. $ host -t txt yahoo.com yahoo.co

Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread JunkYardMail1
Some do not accept email from domains whose owner does not publish the servers they authorize to transfer mail for their domain. -- From: "Sahil Tandon" Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 11:53 AM To: Subject: Re: Postfix.org SPF On Sat, 2010-07-03

Re: Postfix.org SPF

2010-07-04 Thread JunkYardMail1
Those who wish to make use of it can do so. From: Jeroen Geilman Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 11:46 AM To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: Re: Postfix.org SPF On 07/03/2010 08:45 PM, junkyardma...@verizon.net wrote: How about publishing an SPF record for postfix.org. This would wor

Re: migrate from qmail to postfix

2010-07-04 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* Asif Iqbal : > Currently our qmail uses QMAILQUEUE, qmail-scanner, clamd, > spamassassin, rbldnsd, greylite, qmail-pop, qmail-ldap, virtuals and > ezmlm. > (I hope I did not miss anything) Here's the typical way most people go: qmail -> postfix

Re: migrate from qmail to postfix

2010-07-04 Thread Jeroen Geilman
On 07/04/2010 01:38 AM, Asif Iqbal wrote: Hi All I am planning to migrate from qmail to postfix. Currently our qmail uses QMAILQUEUE, qmail-scanner, clamd, spamassassin, rbldnsd, greylite, qmail-pop, qmail-ldap, virtuals and ezmlm. (I hope I did not miss anything) I found few suggestions from