Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-14 Thread Arun Khan
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Vikas Tara wrote: > > I just thought that their contribution was something to point out in the > context of this discussion as some people may not know about it. > Contributing driver code is in their own self interest; i.e. Linux guest VMs get better I/O perform

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-14 Thread Amarendra Godbole
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 4:56 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote: [...] > The idea that MS and Apple hit it right isn't also so true, whether > for the so-called 'single user experience' or any other. Both MS and > Apple had to spend millions of marketing dollars to sell their ribbon > interfaces, UI's etc. T

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-14 Thread pavithran s
On 14 April 2015 at 10:24, Vikas Tara wrote: > I just thought that their contribution was something to point out in the > context of this discussion as some people may not know about it. I don't think their (MS) contribution was worth pointing out . They are just opportunists who contributed onl

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-14 Thread Vikas Tara
On 14/04/15 07:04, Arun Khan wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Vikas Tara > wrote: On 11/04/15 18:08, Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे wrote: Awesome !! I have been exclusively using linux for close to a decade, but the points mentioned by Amarendra

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-13 Thread Arun Khan
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Milind Oka wrote: > thanks all > I do not want any Linux user to change to BOSS. Because they are already > doing the thing that I want. You people keep using the distros you want but > I need your support > even if you criticize me. > ... snip .. I la

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-13 Thread Arun Khan
Hi Shirish, Well put and thanks. -- Arun Khan ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-13 Thread Arun Khan
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Vikas Tara wrote: > On 11/04/15 18:08, Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे wrote: > > Awesome !! > > I have been exclusively using linux for close to a decade, but the points > mentioned by Amarendra make complete sense. > I am a linux user because it is the "right tool" *f

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-13 Thread shirish शिरीष
In-line :- On 4/11/15, Amarendra Godbole wrote: > Hi Milind, Hi Amarendra, > Though I understand the desire and need to be "in control" of your > life and your software, which is a laudable goal, I am confused at the > anti-Microsoft stance taken by many FOSS people, since it deflects > slightl

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-13 Thread Vikas Tara
On 11/04/15 02:21, Milind Oka wrote: It is another Linux Base OS localized for 18 Indian Languages. They (CDAC) have improved the kernel also according to their claim. Any existing FOSS system can serve the purpose but common man is unable to understand the FOSS concept. For him Linux and Win

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-13 Thread Vikas Tara
On 11/04/15 18:08, Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे wrote: Awesome !! I have been exclusively using linux for close to a decade, but the points mentioned by Amarendra make complete sense. I am a linux user because it is the "right tool" *for me*, not because MS Windows is "bad/evil" I am thinking of mo

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-13 Thread Sudhanwa Jogalekar
Hi, On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Mayuresh wrote: > On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 10:12:24PM +0530, Milind Oka wrote: >> Please sign the petition on the following link and share it via >> Facebook, WhatsApp and email > > Can the OP/others who know about the project, elaborate more on its goals, > pu

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-12 Thread ॥ ॐ . का र . हस्य . ॐ ॥
> On Sunday 12 Apr 2015 8:13:08 AM Milind Oka wrote: > thanks all I do not want any Linux user to change to BOSS. Because they are > already doing the thing that I want. You people keep using the distros you > want but I need your support even if you criticize me. The problem is that > there are

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-11 Thread Mayuresh
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 08:31:02AM +0530, Mayuresh wrote: > A purely technical question is why was it needed (i.e. isn't Linux > sufficiently flexible already to create a localized flavor?) IMHO the thread is floundering. Any objective and purely technical/architectural answers to the above? (kee

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-11 Thread Milind Oka
thanks all I do not want any Linux user to change to BOSS. Because they are already doing the thing that I want. You people keep using the distros you want but I need your support even if you criticize me. The problem is that there are several thousand state and central government offices whe

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-11 Thread Amit Jathar
Hi Amarendra Well said n really well balanced thoughts which has insight about microsoft apple n all open source Thanks n keep on posting like this Amit On Saturday, April 11, 2015, Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे wrote: > >> >> सरकारचा FOSS ला साहजिकच विरोध होता > > I don't indian govt. cares one way

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-11 Thread Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे
> सरकारचा FOSS ला साहजिकच विरोध होता I don't indian govt. cares one way or another BTW, The OS seems "out of date" (Last update was in Dec 2013) -Mandar ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in http://list.plug.org.in/listinfo/plug-mail

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-11 Thread Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे
Awesome !! I have been exclusively using linux for close to a decade, but the points mentioned by Amarendra make complete sense. I am a linux user because it is the "right tool" *for me*, not because MS Windows is "bad/evil" I am thinking of moving to OSX because it is *nix under the hood, and all

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-11 Thread Amarendra Godbole
Hi Milind, Though I understand the desire and need to be "in control" of your life and your software, which is a laudable goal, I am confused at the anti-Microsoft stance taken by many FOSS people, since it deflects slightly from the original goal of being "in control" - Microsoft is not the only

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-10 Thread Milind Oka
I agree all your points but how many Indians will understand them ? People have been using different linux distros in IIT's and in research institutes for past 10 years and giving lectures on FOSS but it has no effect on the country's mentality. My simple point is kick Microsoft as early as pos

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-10 Thread Mayuresh
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 06:51:35AM +0530, Milind Oka wrote: > It is another Linux Base OS localized for 18 Indian Languages. They > (CDAC) have improved the kernel also > according to their claim. So, is it not more appropriate to call it Linux? Like most other flavors do? (Say Bharat Linux?) An

Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-10 Thread Milind Oka
It is another Linux Base OS localized for 18 Indian Languages. They (CDAC) have improved the kernel also according to their claim. Any existing FOSS system can serve the purpose but common man is unable to understand the FOSS concept. For him Linux and Windows (pirated) both are free so rulers

[PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

2015-04-09 Thread Milind Oka
Please sign the petition on the following link and share it via Facebook, WhatsApp and email https://www.change.org/p/india-s-honorable-prime-minister-shree-narendra-modi-implement-india-s-own-operating-system-bharat-operating-system-boss-immediately-in-state-and-central-government-offices-sch

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-11-04 Thread Vivek Khurana
On Nov 4, 2007 6:02 PM, ಓಂ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are genuinely serious problems unless you are careful coding > recursion... > > But think of scenarios where you can use recursion and you will find > that recursion is not a very easily implementable for most purposes... > and even whe

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-11-04 Thread ಓಂ
There are genuinely serious problems unless you are careful coding recursion... But think of scenarios where you can use recursion and you will find that recursion is not a very easily implementable for most purposes... and even when you can use it, removing bugs in it is complicated... (you have

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-11-02 Thread Vivek Khurana
\> > Try writing smallest code snippet for any given program output... you > will realise it is not easy to write a *small* program that meets and > does what it is expected to do... It is assumed here that only those > programs which catch and handle exceptions properly will be > compared... so t

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-11-02 Thread ಓಂ
On 11/3/07, Vivek Khurana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 2, 2007 5:38 PM, ಓಂ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually I think we need not worry much about M$, because they will > > dig their own resting place as the time passes... for all we know they > > may have started in that direction with

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-11-02 Thread Vivek Khurana
On Nov 2, 2007 5:38 PM, ಓಂ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually I think we need not worry much about M$, because they will > dig their own resting place as the time passes... for all we know they > may have started in that direction with launch of Vista... > Not really, if you carefully look at

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-11-02 Thread ಓಂ
Actually in my earlier mail i went off a bit.. Sorry if I hurt any feeble heart in the process... Here is what I sincerely feel will keep M$ off for most things... everybody involved with Linux making whatever efforts they can to increase the number of Linux desktops. While actual developers of L

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-11-02 Thread ಓಂ
Actually I think we need not worry much about M$, because they will dig their own resting place as the time passes... for all we know they may have started in that direction with launch of Vista... I noticed another thing recently there are bunch of people who are stuck in the cold with nobody bei

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-10-31 Thread Vivek Khurana
On 10/31/07, ಓಂ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many (nearly 50% or more) points mentioned in the petition are of > highly argumentative nature... that's my sincere opinion... > > The best thing an *international* body like ISO could do is to make > Microsoft work for getting it's standard to the lev

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-10-31 Thread ಓಂ
Many (nearly 50% or more) points mentioned in the petition are of highly argumentative nature... that's my sincere opinion... The best thing an *international* body like ISO could do is to make Microsoft work for getting it's standard to the level and point where that could be acceptable to all :

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-10-31 Thread ಓಂ
Educating masses (to suit one's convinience) is better than blocking others from perverse educating masses :-) Gives the choice in the hands of person listening and learning (that's the lot that counts anyway..) Have as much faith in people's intellect as you have in your own... that is the basic

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-10-30 Thread Vivek Khurana
On 10/31/07, ಓಂ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quite frankly I do not understand how stopping somebody else from > applying for a new standard or protocol for exchange of information > help me improve or attain my freedom Well read the online petition it clearly defines the pitfalls to be faced

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-10-30 Thread ಓಂ
On 10/30/07, Sarang Kulkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This standard proposal was not created by bringing together the > experience and expertise of all interested parties (such as the > producers, sellers, buyers, users and regulators), but by Microsoft > alone. Just for information I am writt

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-10-30 Thread ಓಂ
Quite frankly I do not understand how stopping somebody else from applying for a new standard or protocol for exchange of information help me improve or attain my freedom please feel free to enlighten me on this... [OT] This looks just like NPT... :-) OR what is commonly called a *inside the

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-10-30 Thread Nishit Dave
On 10/30/07, Aditya Godbole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/30/07, Sarang Kulkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > The Free Software Foundation is running a petition to oppose > > Microsoft's OpenXML from becoming an ISO standard. > > Wasnt MS shown the door earlier? Or is t

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-10-30 Thread श्रीधर नारायण दैठणकर
On Tuesday 30 Oct 2007 20:35:14 Aditya Godbole wrote: > Wasnt MS shown the door earlier? Or is this something new brewing up? I think their request for fast track movement of standard was denied. The routine process is still taking place. Shridhar --

Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-10-30 Thread Aditya Godbole
On 10/30/07, Sarang Kulkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > The Free Software Foundation is running a petition to oppose > Microsoft's OpenXML from becoming an ISO standard. Wasnt MS shown the door earlier? Or is this something new brewing up? -aditya -- _

[PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard

2007-10-29 Thread Sarang Kulkarni
Hello, The Free Software Foundation is running a petition to oppose Microsoft's OpenXML from becoming an ISO standard. Serious flaws exists in Microsoft's OpenXML and it would be highly undesirable if it becomes an ISO standard. I request everybody to sign this petition to prevent bad stan