Re: [PLUG] R there any alternatives to RPM

2005-07-06 Thread Aditya Godbole
On 7/6/05, Gurudatta Raut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ever tried giving links on apte ? > Ever tried reading the mailing list ettiquettes? Is it that you have only email access and no web access whatsoever? -aditya -- __ Pu

Re: [PLUG] System call interface

2005-07-06 Thread Abhijit Bhopatkar
> On 7/6/05, Shrinand Javadekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If a function is written in a kernel module (and not hooked to any > > syscall) and that kernel module is loaded in memory, can user-land > > programs call that function? > no. There are only 2 paths into the kernel: either system calls

[PLUG] reading kernel source

2005-07-06 Thread karan geddam
Hello all, I would like to learn the aspects of kernel by reading the kernel source. But I am confused where to start from. Could you'll let me know where to start off/ which file has the main function? ciao -- __ Pune GNU

Re: [PLUG] DataOne gets slightly cheaper

2005-07-06 Thread Aditya Laghate
> On 7/6/05, Sonawane Satish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > FYI > > BSNL has revised the rates for DataOne: > > Please see: > > http://www.bsnl.in/bsnlnews.asp?intnewsid=50603 The subject is a _little_ misieading. Only the installation costs have come down by Rs. 100 to Rs. 200, not the prices for

Re: [PLUG] R there any alternatives to RPM

2005-07-06 Thread A G
> When you do a GNU/Linux install, you should install > al > the development tools and kernel sources. If a > person > doesn't install it, why blame the software? > > GNU/Linux gives the freedom to compile packages from > sources or install from .rpms or using installers > from > distros. > > E

Re: [PLUG] Re: R there any alternatives to RPM

2005-07-06 Thread A G
Stop this junk! --- Shantanoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +++ Sagar Gokhale [PLUG] [06-07-05 00:58 -0700]: > | > > > | > > (first of all, I would say that gentoo > portage is the best) > | > > | > <_*flame*_> FreeBSD ports are even better. > <_*/flame*_> > | > | thats like saying that > the fa

Re: [PLUG] System call interface

2005-07-06 Thread Sagar Gokhale
warning: following content may be highly unreliable. On 7/6/05, Shrinand Javadekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If a function is written in a kernel module (and not hooked to any > syscall) and that kernel module is loaded in memory, can user-land > programs call that function? no. There are only

[PLUG] Re: R there any alternatives to RPM

2005-07-06 Thread Shantanoo
+++ Sagar Gokhale [PLUG] [06-07-05 00:58 -0700]: | > > | > > (first of all, I would say that gentoo portage is the best) | > | > <_*flame*_> FreeBSD ports are even better. <_*/flame*_> | | thats like saying that the father is better | than a child. By laws of evolution, something will, generally

[PLUG] Re: Plug on IRC

2005-07-06 Thread Shantanoo
+++ Guntupalli Karunakar [PLUG] [06-07-05 09:52 +0530]: | On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:10:05 +0530 (IST) | "Devendra Laulkar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > Hi all, | > Do Plug members still gather on irc.freenode.net in | > #pluggies ? Besides the once a month meeting and the mailing list, | >

[PLUG] Re: rant

2005-07-06 Thread Shantanoo
+++ Devendra Laulkar [PLUG] [01-07-05 23:17 +0530]: | On Friday 01 Jul 2005 1:46 am, sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote: | > | > Somehow, people who just come in and go are not bothered to interact | > more and are not so interested to get into somebody elses problems. | | Or maybe they are interested but f

[PLUG] Re: R there any alternatives to RPM

2005-07-06 Thread Shantanoo
+++ Gurudatta Raut [PLUG] [03-07-05 05:30 -0700]: | Hi, | | Sorry but some good person from PLUG told me to use | | - rpm - ivh Filename.rpm 'rpm -ivh Filename.rpm' | | I used it. TO my shock it gave message that it | required 4 more packages. Packages are generally dynamically linked. If th

[PLUG] Re: How to run "dat" files and "mpeg" files

2005-07-06 Thread Shantanoo
+++ Shakthi Kannan [PLUG] [06-07-05 00:31 -0700]: | Hi, | | --- Vicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > I have RedHat 9.0 installed on my system, | > I am not able to play ".dat" and ".mpeg" movies, | | I use "mplayer" to play .dat and .mpeg files. Install | it. | | http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepa

[PLUG] Re: rant

2005-07-06 Thread Shantanoo
+++ ZYX Rationalist [PLUG] [01-07-05 22:56 -0700]: | | | --- Kaustubh Gadkari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | And, although I | > agree that part of | > the purpose of the existence of the list is to help | > newbies ( I refuse | > to use the word n00b), it does get boring sometimes | > to keep o

[PLUG] Re: How to run "dat" files and "mpeg" files

2005-07-06 Thread Shantanoo
+++ Aditya Godbole [PLUG] [05-07-05 21:26 +0530]: | On 6/30/05, Vicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > Hi friends, | > | > I have RedHat 9.0 installed on my system, | > I am not able to play ".dat" and ".mpeg" movies, | > Pls let me know if there are any applications to play these file types, | > an

[PLUG] Re: rant

2005-07-06 Thread Shantanoo
+++ Gurudatta Raut [PLUG] [05-07-05 11:37 -0700]: | | | --- Shridhar Daithankar | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > I must point out a difference here. It is not RTFM | > and get lost here. When one | > is told to RTFM, it is with a pointer. | | WHAT IS RTFM aAnyways ? http://en.wikipedia.org

[PLUG] Re: rant

2005-07-06 Thread Shantanoo
| The main problem with | > linux is that it tries to dictate how things should be | > done instead of asking how things are wanted to be | > done. There should be a Linux version completely based | > on majority voting about user interface by the USERS | > instead of Linux OS developers. | > | >

Re: [PLUG] DataOne gets slightly cheaper

2005-07-06 Thread Vishal Rao
On 7/6/05, Sonawane Satish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FYI > BSNL has revised the rates for DataOne: > Please see: > http://www.bsnl.in/bsnlnews.asp?intnewsid=50603 That link's not working for me, got a working one (on the BSNL site)? -- "Thou shalt not follow the null pointer for at it's end m

Re: [PLUG] EU Software patent update

2005-07-06 Thread Kaustubh Gadkari
On Wednesday 06 Jul 2005 5:09 pm, Aditya Godbole wrote: > Got this on IRC (#bxl-ffii on freenode) - > > EU Parliament rejects software patents 648 to 14 votes (18 abstentions). > Video/audio/transcriptons of voting on wiki.vrijschrift.org/EP050706 > I am impressed. Politicians finally got something

Re: [PLUG] Beginning Linux Programming

2005-07-06 Thread Kaustubh Gadkari
> And also could you just suggest a complete book for UNIX ?? I have > read unix before a no of times but still not got the perfect book > intended for the same. > I am not sure such a book exists. Try the book by Maurice Bach. It's one of my personal favourites. But I guess that depends on where

Re: [PLUG] RPM files dont get installed

2005-07-06 Thread Abhijit Muthiyan
Dude, Guru, you have quite a thread going. Don't normally respond to these rants, but I couldn't stop myself... Why don't you state your specific problem and lets see if we can solve it. I don't think we can fix your attitude and we should not try. If you don't like Linux, that is fine. This is no

[PLUG] [Commercial] Fwd: Python developer Requirement to be posted on LUG

2005-07-06 Thread lonetwin
Hi Guys, This is an excellect opening for anyone working in Python. The client for which the company is recruiting is 'Elemental Securities', the place where Guido works ! Regards Steve --- Rajesh nair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:43:20 +0530 > From: "Rajesh nair" <[EM

Re: [PLUG] R there any alternatives to RPM

2005-07-06 Thread c.v.hazarey
Hi Gurudutta, I would suggest you lookup yum for redhat , and also apt-get from redhat. Even when you have got all the packages in place to install you can use a good tool such as ezrpm. Look it up. Regards, Chaitanya V. Hazarey -- ___

[PLUG] System call interface

2005-07-06 Thread Shrinand Javadekar
If a function is written in a kernel module (and not hooked to any syscall) and that kernel module is loaded in memory, can user-land programs call that function? Also, does making an entry in the syscall table mean writing an interrupt handler? Thanks in advance -Shri -- ___

[PLUG] Beginning Linux Programming

2005-07-06 Thread Rohan Dighe
Hi ! This is rohan.. I saw the book Beginning Linux Programming, Wrox. Can anyone tell me what actually this book aim's at ?? Found the review quite confusing. And also could you just suggest a complete book for UNIX ?? I have read unix before a no of times but still not got the perfect book inte

Re: [PLUG] EU Software patent update

2005-07-06 Thread Abhijit Bhopatkar
> Got this on IRC (#bxl-ffii on freenode) - > > EU Parliament rejects software patents 648 to 14 votes (18 abstentions). > Video/audio/transcriptons of voting on wiki.vrijschrift.org/EP050706 Whoooho -- __

[PLUG] EU Software patent update

2005-07-06 Thread Aditya Godbole
Got this on IRC (#bxl-ffii on freenode) - EU Parliament rejects software patents 648 to 14 votes (18 abstentions). Video/audio/transcriptons of voting on wiki.vrijschrift.org/EP050706 -aditya -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mai

[PLUG] DataOne gets slightly cheaper

2005-07-06 Thread Sonawane Satish
FYI BSNL has revised the rates for DataOne: Please see: http://www.bsnl.in/bsnlnews.asp?intnewsid=50603 regards Satish __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html -- __

Re: [PLUG] R there any alternatives to RPM

2005-07-06 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- Gurudatta Raut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used it. TO my shock it gave message that it > required 4 more packages. You are to use the package installers for your distro which will take care of dependencies. > I was installing FireFox, Its a shame that now I am > using Firefox on Win

Re: [PLUG] wanna use inernet.

2005-07-06 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- sughosh ganu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi, >i'm using a P4.i have an internal modem.i want to > use internet on > linux(ver2.4).how do i do it.what r the specific > settings that r required to > b done. Is it a winmodem? Post the output of: /sbin/lspci /sbin/lsmod SK -- proudl

Re: [PLUG] Suggestion: Linux Kernel & Driver Development

2005-07-06 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- Rohan Dighe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am a TE computer engineering student and very much > interested in > driver development under linux. Check these: http://www.xml.com/ldd/chapter/book/ http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdrive3/ Check my simple device driver examples from: h

Re: [PLUG] R there any alternatives to RPM

2005-07-06 Thread Sagar Gokhale
> > > > (first of all, I would say that gentoo portage is the best) > > <_*flame*_> FreeBSD ports are even better. <_*/flame*_> thats like saying that the father is better than a child. By laws of evolution, something will, generally speaking, improve over generations. Thus portage is better. :P

Re: [PLUG] How to run "dat" files and "mpeg" files

2005-07-06 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- Vicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have RedHat 9.0 installed on my system, > I am not able to play ".dat" and ".mpeg" movies, I use "mplayer" to play .dat and .mpeg files. Install it. http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/index.html SK -- proudly anti-micro$oft

Re: [PLUG] Suggestion: Linux Kernel & Driver Development

2005-07-06 Thread Abhijit Bhopatkar
> > HI !! > > > > I am a TE computer engineering student and very much interested in > > driver development under linux. I would like to have some info abt the > Linux device drivers by Jonathan Corbet, Alessandro Rubini is > considered to be the bible for device driver development. The online > ht

Re: [PLUG] modem installation problem

2005-07-06 Thread Madhur Kumar Tanwani
Saeid Hasan wrote: Hi. I have Internal conexant softK56, i cant install it and i dont have driver for it, please some one help me, thnx a simple search on google will give u details on this common topic - i think linmodems.com should help best of luck -- __

Re: [PLUG] modem installation problem

2005-07-06 Thread swathantra software
> I have Internal conexant softK56, i cant install it and i dont have > driver for it, please some one help me, thnx You can get the softmodem driver from www.linuxant.com/drivers/ page and install the driver Sujeevan S2S2 -

Re: [PLUG] modem installation problem

2005-07-06 Thread Abhijit Bhopatkar
> Hi. > I have Internal conexant softK56, i cant install it and i dont have > driver for it, please some one help me, thnx STFW try http://adotout.net/abhijit/wiki -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug

Re: [PLUG] ubuntu 5.04 hoary intel 915G graphics support..help pls

2005-07-06 Thread Abhijit Bhopatkar
> Hi, > i installed ubuntu with a custom kernel for alsa sound support.but my > problem is i did not find graphics support in Ubuntu even with Xorg.so > what should i do to get graphics support.help pleaaase! try http://adotout.net/abhijit/wiki -- BAIN http://abhijit.adotout.net --

Re: [OT] Take it offline - Was [PLUG] RPM files dont get installed

2005-07-06 Thread Abhijit Bhopatkar
> > To the Linux zealots : Having "experienced" Windows > > 3.1 > > does not give you the right to comment about all > > Windows. > > The truth is OUT THERE. > > > To the Windows zealots : Having one bad experience > > on one > > ditro doesnt mean that all other Linuxes are the > > same. > > ONE

Re: [PLUG] % cpu usage calculations ?

2005-07-06 Thread Balwinder Singh
On Tuesday 05 Jul 2005 12:19 pm, Yogesh1 Talekar wrote: hi, Hope this may help. Have a look at /proc/stat Find user(Tu),nice(Tn),sys(Ts) and ideal(Ti) usage in jiffies for  some small time duration(T in jiffies). %usage Total = (Tu+Tn+Ts+Ti)*100 / T Same should be true for each process /proc/PI

Re: [PLUG] RPM files dont get installed

2005-07-06 Thread Abhijit Bhopatkar
> > Isnt microsoft one of the primary reasons why Linux > > is so popular? > > Ya, it the hatrate towards, why ? because no one like > to be dictated of what to use and not, not even Linux > has the right to dictate, Its all about what majority demands. WEll of course not I don't hate microsoft,

Re: [PLUG][was RPM files dont ... ]rant

2005-07-06 Thread Abhijit Bhopatkar
> > I must point out a difference here. It is not RTFM > > and get lost here. When one > > is told to RTFM, it is with a pointer. > > WHAT IS RTFM aAnyways ? STFW try http://adotout.net/abhijit/wiki -- BAIN http://abhijit.adotout.net -- _