Re: Phoenix is emerging as the city of the future

2023-06-26 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
On 2023-06-25 19:25, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Thu, 22 Jun 2023 13:52:06 -0700 Yes water is an issue. This was my first thought upon reading the subject of your post. This is a huge challenge. And when I think of data centers in Phoenix during t

Re: Phoenix is emerging as the city of the future

2023-06-25 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Thu, 22 Jun 2023 13:52:06 -0700 >Yes water is an issue. This was my first thought upon reading the subject of your post. This is a huge challenge. > And when I think of data centers in Phoenix >during the summer... machines pumping out heat and A/C units n

Re: Phoenix is emerging as the city of the future

2023-06-23 Thread Jim via PLUG-discuss
One thing I've noticed about mass transit in the Valley is the money wasted on that train.  The train only goes where there are tracks.  Instead of taking multiple lanes from traffic to put in the rails for the train, buses surely would have been a better solution.  A bus can go anywhere.  If a

Re: Phoenix is emerging as the city of the future

2023-06-22 Thread Matthew Crews via PLUG-discuss
As a life long Arizonan, I can say that, without even reading the article, it's full of crap. If Phoenix wants to be considered a city of the future, it needs to embrace dense urban planning (and get rid of this ridiculous urban sprawl), have an actual functional mass transit system, have actu

Re: Phoenix is emerging as the city of the future

2023-06-22 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
I think that's a whole other ball of worms around "Smart Cities", and more about the technologies they conceptualize applying to run cities better, not so much cities turning into a large hub of technology employers. I don't think there's a (good) book for that yet... Been there, done that too wi

Re: Phoenix is emerging as the city of the future

2023-06-22 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
On 2023-06-22 16:04, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote: may I ... https://www.amazon.com/Smart-Cities-Dummies-Computer-Tech/dp/111967994X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=smart+cities+for+dummies&sr=8-1 The page says "At its core, a smart city is a collection of technological responses to the growing deman

Re: Phoenix is emerging as the city of the future

2023-06-22 Thread greg zegan via PLUG-discuss
may I ...https://www.amazon.com/Smart-Cities-Dummies-Computer-Tech/dp/111967994X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=smart+cities+for+dummies&sr=8-1 On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 04:00:44 PM MST, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> I've only lived in AZ except for a stint in the military.  I've

Re: Phoenix is emerging as the city of the future

2023-06-22 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
>> I've only lived in AZ except for a stint in the military. I've only had >> a couple good managers. Most others where in over their head. Most often my experience too, particularly in AZ. Entrenched/clueless leadership often enough, then combine entrenched vendors (think cisco, microsoft,

Re: Phoenix is emerging as the city of the future

2023-06-22 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
I've only lived in AZ except for a stint in the military. I've only had a couple good managers. Most others where in over their head. If AZ is so bad then why is all this tech choosing AZ? Yes water is an issue. And when I think of data centers in Phoenix during the summer... machines p

Re: Phoenix is emerging as the city of the future

2023-06-22 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
Meh, I've heard this since the dot.bomb implosion of 2000, when I happened to move back from silicon valley at the beginning of 2001 with everything going under there. Seemed like half of Cali moved here with me after, and tons of like speculation at the time of a Silicon Desert. While I think AZ

Phoenix is emerging as the city of the future

2023-06-22 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Hi, Came upon this article that sounds interesting. https://www.axios.com/2023/06/21/phoenix-chips-cars I posted an article a while ago about a class that was being offered to teach chip making skills (if I recall correctly). Any thoughts on how this will help/effect Linux folks... Open So