Re: Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello all, Michael Biebl [2015-11-24 22:28 +0100]: > Am 24.11.2015 um 22:25 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: > > [Felipe Sateler] > >> That would potentially leave initscripts with wrong ordering, thus > >> breaking a boot back to sysvinit (via syvinit package). > > > > My guess is that this would no

Re: Bug#801156 marked as pending

2015-11-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi Guillem! On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 03:40:50 + Guillem Jover wrote: > Control: tag 801156 pending > > Hi! > > Bug #801156 reported by you has been fixed in the Git repository. You can > see the changelog below, and you can check the diff of the fix at: > > https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/d

Re: Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 24 November 2015 at 18:57, Felipe Sateler wrote: > On 24 November 2015 at 18:28, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Am 24.11.2015 um 22:25 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: >>> [Felipe Sateler] That would potentially leave initscripts with wrong ordering, thus breaking a boot back to sysvinit (via s

Re: Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 24 November 2015 at 18:28, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 24.11.2015 um 22:25 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: >> [Felipe Sateler] >>> That would potentially leave initscripts with wrong ordering, thus >>> breaking a boot back to sysvinit (via syvinit package). >> >> My guess is that this would not happ

Re: Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.11.2015 um 22:25 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: > [Felipe Sateler] >> That would potentially leave initscripts with wrong ordering, thus >> breaking a boot back to sysvinit (via syvinit package). > > My guess is that this would not happen if the initscripts package is > installed before trying

Re: Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Felipe Sateler] > That would potentially leave initscripts with wrong ordering, thus > breaking a boot back to sysvinit (via syvinit package). My guess is that this would not happen if the initscripts package is installed before trying to boot using sysvinit, which I suspect is a requirement. Th

Re: Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.11.2015 um 21:29 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Thanks for the suggestions, Felipe! > > Am 24.11.2015 um 19:37 schrieb Felipe Sateler: >> f/ Patch update-rc.d to use --force when initscripts is not installed. What check did you have in mind here? Testing for a (conf)file shipped by the initscript

Re: Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Thanks for the suggestions, Felipe! Am 24.11.2015 um 19:37 schrieb Felipe Sateler: > f/ Patch update-rc.d to use --force when initscripts is not installed. > > These two options have the added advantage of not relying on the > active init, and thus could work while switching to sysvinit in the >

Bug#805927: timesyncd does not automatically start after removing all NTP daemons

2015-11-24 Thread Josh Triplett
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 02:14:19PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > Hi Josh > Am 24.11.2015 um 06:53 schrieb Josh Triplett: > > Package: systemd > > Version: 228-2 > > Severity: wishlist > > > > /lib/systemd/system/systemd-timesyncd.service.d/disable-with-time-daemon.conf > > disables systemd-timesyn

Re: Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 24 November 2015 at 15:59, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 24.11.2015 um 19:37 schrieb Felipe Sateler: >> e/ Patch insserv to look for a flag file/setting somewhere in >> /etc/insserv{,.conf.d}, which causes it to treat Required-* as Should* >> (ie, conffile-version of --force). Then initscripts coul

Re: Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.11.2015 um 19:59 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Am 24.11.2015 um 19:37 schrieb Felipe Sateler: >> e/ Patch insserv to look for a flag file/setting somewhere in >> /etc/insserv{,.conf.d}, which causes it to treat Required-* as Should* >> (ie, conffile-version of --force). Then initscripts could ship

Re: Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.11.2015 um 19:37 schrieb Felipe Sateler: > e/ Patch insserv to look for a flag file/setting somewhere in > /etc/insserv{,.conf.d}, which causes it to treat Required-* as Should* > (ie, conffile-version of --force). Then initscripts could ship such a > configuration, thus demoting dependencies

Re: Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.11.2015 um 19:32 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: > The reason I do not like this is that insserv do not know about package > names and only do know about the dependency format and derive everything > from there. I believe it is a mistake to hardcode script names into > insserv. I also believe

Re: Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.11.2015 um 19:44 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Am 24.11.2015 um 19:32 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: >> [Michael Biebl] >>> a/ Pere suggested to turn the Required- dependencies into Should- >>> dependencies. This means, as long as initscripts is not installed, >>> insserv does not fail, but potentia

Re: Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.11.2015 um 19:32 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: > [Michael Biebl] >> a/ Pere suggested to turn the Required- dependencies into Should- >> dependencies. This means, as long as initscripts is not installed, >> insserv does not fail, but potentially calculates a wrong ordering. >> This is not fata

Re: Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 24 November 2015 at 14:54, Michael Biebl wrote: > Hi everyone, > > a few days ago, I filed bug reports against packages which declare an > explicit dependency on the initscripts package [1] and asked them to > remove it. > My assumption back then was, that this dependency was mainly added for >

Re: Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Michael Biebl] > a/ Pere suggested to turn the Required- dependencies into Should- > dependencies. This means, as long as initscripts is not installed, > insserv does not fail, but potentially calculates a wrong ordering. > This is not fatal for systemd though, as the ordering is not used by > sys

Making it possible to uninstall initscripts / insserv and facilities

2015-11-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi everyone, a few days ago, I filed bug reports against packages which declare an explicit dependency on the initscripts package [1] and asked them to remove it. My assumption back then was, that this dependency was mainly added for the /run-transition and could be dropped now easily. Unfortunat

Bug#770876: udev: Linux 3.2.0 with udev 215 breaks X11 keyboard and mouse

2015-11-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Control: tags -1 + moreinfo On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 22:08:47 +0100 Nils Dagsson Moskopp wrote: > For reasons I still do not understand, systemd was unable to mount > /boot as ext2. I have been unable to make the Linux kernel load the > ext2 module – modprobe exited zero, but lsmod did not show the

Processed: Re: udev: Linux 3.2.0 with udev 215 breaks X11 keyboard and mouse

2015-11-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > tags -1 + moreinfo Bug #770876 [udev] udev: Linux 3.2.0 with udev 215 breaks X11 keyboard and mouse Added tag(s) moreinfo. -- 770876: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=770876 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems __

Processed: forcibly merging 648528 804910

2015-11-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > forcemerge 648528 804910 Bug #648528 [systemd] systemd: The fs check message is not visible enough Bug #804910 [systemd] systemd: Invisible fsck, looked like a hanging system Severity set to 'wishlist' from 'important' Marked as found in versions

Processed: severity of 648528 is normal

2015-11-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > severity 648528 normal Bug #648528 [systemd] systemd: The fs check message is not visible enough Bug #804910 [systemd] systemd: Invisible fsck, looked like a hanging system Severity set to 'normal' from 'wishlist' Severity set to 'normal' from 'wi

Bug#805742: marked as done (systemd: add ntpdate to the list of another NTP daemon installed)

2015-11-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Tue, 24 Nov 2015 16:11:58 +0100 with message-id <56547e3e.3050...@debian.org> and subject line Re: Bug#805742: systemd: add ntpdate to the list of another NTP daemon installed has caused the Debian Bug report #805742, regarding systemd: add ntpdate to the list of another NTP dae

Processed: tagging 805742

2015-11-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > tags 805742 = wontfix Bug #805742 [systemd] systemd: add ntpdate to the list of another NTP daemon installed Added tag(s) wontfix; removed tag(s) moreinfo. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 805742:

Processed: tagging 805133

2015-11-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > tags 805133 + pending Bug #805133 [systemd] systemd disables swap too early during shutdown Added tag(s) pending. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 805133: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cg

Bug#805927: timesyncd does not automatically start after removing all NTP daemons

2015-11-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi Josh Am 24.11.2015 um 06:53 schrieb Josh Triplett: > Package: systemd > Version: 228-2 > Severity: wishlist > > /lib/systemd/system/systemd-timesyncd.service.d/disable-with-time-daemon.conf > disables systemd-timesyncd if /usr/sbin/ntpd (or another NTP daemon) > exists. However, nothing causes

Processed: Re: Bug#805910: FTBFS on x32: wrong assumption about sizeof(long)

2015-11-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > tag -1 pending Bug #805910 [src:systemd] FTBFS on x32: wrong assumption about sizeof(long) Added tag(s) pending. -- 805910: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=805910 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems _

Bug#805910: FTBFS on x32: wrong assumption about sizeof(long)

2015-11-24 Thread Martin Pitt
Control: tag -1 pending Helmut Grohne [2015-11-23 22:25 +0100]: > Since 228, systemd FTBFS on x32. See > https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=systemd&arch=x32&ver=228-2&stamp=1447934469 > > The reason is a wrong assumption on the sizeof(long). I forwarded the > fix upstream already (see

Processed: bug 802780 is forwarded to https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2015

2015-11-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > forwarded 802780 https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2015 Bug #802780 [systemd] systemd: systemctl 227 fails in chroots (instead of ignoring) Set Bug forwarded-to-address to 'https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2015'. > thanks Stoppi

Bug#802780: systemd: systemctl 227 fails in chroots (instead of ignoring)

2015-11-24 Thread Stephan Sürken
Hi Michael, On Fr, 2015-11-20 at 14:15 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 23.10.2015 um 17:43 schrieb Stephan Sürken: > > So yes, for a non-existing script, that's (changed behaviour) but > > correct. > > > > For the example wicd service however, it should ignore the call like > > before, afaiu. >