Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 12/30/2008 04:27 PM Nathan Nobbe said the following: I was following the blog tutorial on cake and here's what I got from hitting the post/index page: 081230 12:51:55 316 Connect r...@localhost on 316 Init DB cake

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Eric Butera wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Robert Cummings > wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 12:53 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Nathan Nobbe > >> > >> I was following the blog tutorial on cake and here's what I got

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Eric Butera
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 12:53 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Nathan Nobbe >> >> I was following the blog tutorial on cake and here's what I got from >> hitting the post/index page: >> >> 081230 12:51:55

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 12:53 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Nathan Nobbe > > > > I was following the blog tutorial on cake and here's what I got from > > hitting the post/index page: > > > > 081230 12:51:55

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 12:53 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Nathan Nobbe > > I was following the blog tutorial on cake and here's what I got from > hitting the post/index page: > > 081230 12:51:55 316 Connect r...@localhost on > 316 Ini

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 12:15 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > >> on 12/30/2008 01:13 AM Sancar Saran said the following: > >> > and please read this why > >> > > >> > http://talks.php.net/show/drupal08/0 > > it also acts as a nice control mechanism

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Eric Butera
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Eric Butera wrote: >> >> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Nathan Nobbe >> wrote: >> >> on 12/30/2008 01:13 AM Sancar Saran said the following: >> >> > and please read this why >> >> > >> >> > http://tal

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Eric Butera wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Nathan Nobbe > wrote: > >> on 12/30/2008 01:13 AM Sancar Saran said the following: > >> > and please read this why > >> > > >> > http://talks.php.net/show/drupal08/0 > > it also acts as a nice control mechani

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Eric Butera
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: >> on 12/30/2008 01:13 AM Sancar Saran said the following: >> > and please read this why >> > >> > http://talks.php.net/show/drupal08/0 > it also acts as a nice control mechanism to compare so many frameworks, > trivial php, and html. really ni

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > > plus did you see the part about 'cleaning up the include path'. moving to > require at the outer layer and as far in as possible, basically. thats a > really good idea, and it looks like this 'includes' extension > lol, its 'inclued' dumm

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-30 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Manuel Lemos wrote: > Hello, > > on 12/30/2008 05:07 AM Nathan Nobbe said the following: > How do you structure your web applications? I am thinking in terms of > separating presentation and logic. How is that done in PHP? And how > many architect

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-29 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 12/30/2008 05:07 AM Nathan Nobbe said the following: How do you structure your web applications? I am thinking in terms of separating presentation and logic. How is that done in PHP? And how many architecture patterns are there? >>> >>> Well, >>> >>> I use, way of Rasmus

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-29 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Manuel Lemos wrote: > Hello, > > on 12/30/2008 01:13 AM Sancar Saran said the following: > >> How do you structure your web applications? I am thinking in terms of > >> separating presentation and logic. How is that done in PHP? And how > >> many architecture pat

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-29 Thread Daniel Kolbo
Michael C. Yates wrote: Hey, How do you structure your web applications? I am thinking in terms of separating presentation and logic. How is that done in PHP? And how many architecture patterns are there? Thanks Micheal C. Yates I am an amateur programmer, so take my comments with a gr

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-29 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 12/30/2008 01:13 AM Sancar Saran said the following: >> How do you structure your web applications? I am thinking in terms of >> separating presentation and logic. How is that done in PHP? And how >> many architecture patterns are there? > > > Well, > > I use, way of Rasmus (I give t

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-29 Thread Sancar Saran
On Sunday 28 December 2008 01:40:01 Michael C. Yates wrote: > Hey, > > How do you structure your web applications? I am thinking in terms of > separating presentation and logic. How is that done in PHP? And how > many architecture patterns are there? > > > Thanks > > > Micheal C. Yates Well, I

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-29 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 12/27/2008 10:57 PM Murray said the following: > I'm interested in this topic as well. I'm starting out on a reasonably large > web application, and I'm wondering at the best approach in PHP, particularly > since it's been some years since I worked with PHP on a daily basis (the > last 5

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-28 Thread Phpster
The pup architect framework Book on zend also has excellent detail on the mvc pattern Bastien Sent from my iPod On Dec 28, 2008, at 5:38 PM, "Nathan Nobbe" wrote: On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Michael C. Yates wrote: Nathan Nobbe wrote: Hey, How do you structure your web a

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-28 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Michael C. Yates wrote: > Nathan Nobbe wrote: > >> >> >> Hey, >>> >>> How do you structure your web applications? I am thinking in terms of >>> separating presentation and logic. How is that done in PHP? >>> >> >> mvc is pretty popular, but php is so flexible yo

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-28 Thread Michael C. Yates
Nathan Nobbe wrote: Hey, How do you structure your web applications? I am thinking in terms of separating presentation and logic. How is that done in PHP? mvc is pretty popular, but php is so flexible you often don't need it for smaller applications. For example, if you take a page-con

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-27 Thread Phpster
I think there is a lot to be gained from using a framework. I have an extremely large web app in asp ( over 1500 pages ) and maintenance is a frigging nightmare as it's so imtertwined. Using the code ignitor framework reduces that dramatically and I now have 5 rules based classes that contr

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-27 Thread Larry Garfield
On Saturday 27 December 2008 6:57:18 pm Murray wrote: > I'm interested in this topic as well. I'm starting out on a reasonably > large web application, and I'm wondering at the best approach in PHP, > particularly since it's been some years since I worked with PHP on a daily > basis (the last 5 yea

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-27 Thread Murray
I'm interested in this topic as well. I'm starting out on a reasonably large web application, and I'm wondering at the best approach in PHP, particularly since it's been some years since I worked with PHP on a daily basis (the last 5 years have been purely C#). There's some dev community bias agai

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-27 Thread Nathan Nobbe
Hey, How do you structure your web applications? I am thinking in terms of separating presentation and logic. How is that done in PHP? mvc is pretty popular, but php is so flexible you often don't need it for smaller applications. For example, if you take a page-controller approach, a

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-27 Thread Michael C. Yates
dude, whatever Daniel Brown wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 18:40, Michael C. Yates wrote: [snip!] Micheal C. Yates You mis-spelled your name, Michael. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-27 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Sat, 2008-12-27 at 19:00 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: > On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 18:40, Michael C. Yates wrote: > [snip!] > > > > Micheal C. Yates > > You mis-spelled your name, Michael. > > -- > > daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net > http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilot

Re: [PHP] Architecture patterns in PHP

2008-12-27 Thread Daniel Brown
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