On Wednesday 22 September 2004 16:12, Lester Caine wrote:
> That depends on if there IS a national preference. Having seen drivers
> in some countries there still seems to be a difference of opinion ;)
>
> So even legal requirements can't enforce some preferred activities,
You're missing the poi
Jason Wong wrote:
Have fun driving on the wrong side of the road.
What side is that? Doesn't it depend on national preference?
Not personal preference for certain.
That depends on if there IS a national preference. Having seen drivers
in some countries there still seems to be a difference of opini
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 03:41, Andre Dubuc wrote:
> Arrgh! I use Kmail. I click 'Reply' and I get your personal address
> (instead of the correct 'To:' address. Bummer! Gotta spend some energy
> wiping the current 'To:' addrress, type in letter 'p', click auto-complete
> for correct address
Michael Sims wrote:
> Octavian Rasnita wrote:
>> No, there is no way for customizing the headers Outlook Express use
>> to put in the email messages.
>> I wish there was, because I don't like them also...
>
> Although I haven't used it personally, OE-QuoteFix may help:
>
> http://home.in.tum.de/~
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:17:57 +0930, David Robley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Go get him, troops :-0
Sorry.
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 05:57, John Nichel wrote:
> John Holmes wrote:
>> From: "Andre Dubuc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>> I click 'Reply' and I get your personal address (instead
>>> of the correct 'To:' address.
>>
>>
>> Oh, for the love of god, jub or whoever, can we not turn this into a
>> who-th
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Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] List Etiquette
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 04:01:47 +0300
> "Octavian Rasnita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My email client (Outlook Express) puts a lot of information
> >
John Holmes wrote:
From: "Andre Dubuc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I click 'Reply' and I get your personal address (instead
of the correct 'To:' address.
Oh, for the love of god, jub or whoever, can we not turn this into a
who-the-list-should-reply-to thread?!?!? Been there,
done-beat-the-dead-horse-abo
From: "Andre Dubuc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I click 'Reply' and I get your personal address (instead
of the correct 'To:' address.
Oh, for the love of god, jub or whoever, can we not turn this into a
who-the-list-should-reply-to thread?!?!? Been there,
done-beat-the-dead-horse-about that...
---John
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 03:02 pm, John Nichel wrote:
> While the thread still lives, let me add a pet peeve of mine. People
> who reply to all. Just reply to the list...if you have to click reply
> to all to get the list address in there, fine, but take a few seconds to
> remove all other ad
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:02:27 -0400, John Nichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While the thread still lives, let me add a pet peeve of mine. People
> who reply to all. Just reply to the list...if you have to click reply
> to all to get the list address in there, fine, but take a few seconds to
> re
While the thread still lives, let me add a pet peeve of mine. People
who reply to all. Just reply to the list...if you have to click reply
to all to get the list address in there, fine, but take a few seconds to
remove all other addresses.
Thank you for your time. We now return you to your r
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> No, there is no way for customizing the headers Outlook Express use
> to put in the email messages.
> I wish there was, because I don't like them also...
Although I haven't used it personally, OE-QuoteFix may help:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
I do
er 20, 2004 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] List Etiquette
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 04:01:47 +0300
> "Octavian Rasnita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My email client (Outlook Express) puts a lot of information
> > at the top of the message automaticly, lik
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:02:23 +0800, Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I really shouldn't be indulging you as it's pretty obvious you're only
here
for a vigorous debate (that's my euphemism for an argument - the not so
nice
meaning of argument).
The OP asked for the pros and cons of top
Hi,
> > Happy top posting,
>
> Have fun driving on the wrong side of the road.
Hey that can be fun! Especially in crowded downtown areas. It's a
real challenge!
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- Edwin - wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:11:17 +0800
Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sunday 19 September 2004 05:37, Andre Dubuc wrote:
[...]
Seems to me much easier to scan the Subject, see how it's
developing by reading the reply on the top, rather than
have to wade through even snipped o
Hi Jason,
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:42:09 -0700
"Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> are we still on top posting.. shessh. i only top post cuase
> im lazy...
Maybe we should talk about "one-liners" next time...
Anyway, I'm sure many people will appreciate it if you trim
your posts.
Thank
Hi,
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 04:01:47 +0300
"Octavian Rasnita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My email client (Outlook Express) puts a lot of information
> at the top of the message automaticly, like:
>
> The signature,
> --- original message ---
> The From line
> - The to line
> - The date line
> - The
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:11:17 +0800
Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 19 September 2004 05:37, Andre Dubuc wrote:
[...]
> > Seems to me much easier to scan the Subject, see how it's
> > developing by reading the reply on the top, rather than
> > have to wade through even snipped o
Hi,
(I know a lot has already been said but...)
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:37:59 -0400
Andre Dubuc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After googling 'Web Etiquette, Top Posting', I still am
> puzzled why some people on this list insist that top
> posting is bad form, rather than personal preferen
are we still on top posting.. shessh. i only top post cuase im lazy...
J
"Octavian Rasnita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Nichel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Mond
- Original Message -
From: "John Nichel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] List Etiquette
> Octavian Rasnita wrote:
>
> > In other words it's easier for you to reach your Del
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
In other words it's easier for you to reach your Delete key when you top
post than when you bottom post ???
--
Ok, I have bottom posted, and have trimmed the end of the message. But this
was a little text only, while the header of this message is still there, and
it is bigg
From: "John Nichel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Easier for reading? Yes, you're right. Do you read a book from the
> bottom of the page up? Trimming a message is easier if you top post?
> That's pretty weak. Follow a top posted thread, you'll see that most
> top posters just leave everything in ther
From: "Chris Shiflett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This is like arguing that people choose to use IE instead of Firefox.
Surely the flaws of this argument are obvious. For people who bother to
make a choice, Firefox is a clear winner. The same is true for formatted
email. People (who care) tend to agree o
Teddy
- Original Message -
From: "-{ Rene Brehmer }-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Octavian Rasnita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] List Etiquette
At 16:57 19-09-2004, Octavian Ras
At 16:57 19-09-2004, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Hi,
From: "John Nichel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Do the words get smaller at the bottom? Having to scroll thru line
after line of message doesn't deal with top vs. bottom posting...that
stems from people not trimming non-releative parts out of the message.
-
I think it might be best to let this topic die. The original question did
not seem to be an attempt to start a debate but rather to hear why
experienced users dislike "top posting." I think I gave such reasons in my
initial reply, so there's no longer a question that needs to be answered.
This is
On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 14:49, John Nichel wrote:
> Check the headers of this email. I'm using a Windows box right now, and
> my cursor was automatically at the end when I clicked reply. Again,
> it's laziness if one doesn't want to configure their client to put the
> cursor at the end, or to ma
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
The rules should be made to make the reading process easier for the readers
and the top posting versus bottom posting has nothing to do with the
trimming of the messages.
It is much easier to trim a message when top posting, just as I explained
you.
Easier for reading? Yes,
* Thus wrote Octavian Rasnita:
> Hi,
>
> I have a very strong reason for top posting and a very strong one for not
> agreeing too much bottom posting at all, and this is the fact that I am
> blind and if I need to read a bottom post, I need to read again and again
> the whole original message, eve
Hi,
From: "John Nichel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Do the words get smaller at the bottom? Having to scroll thru line
after line of message doesn't deal with top vs. bottom posting...that
stems from people not trimming non-releative parts out of the message.
---
The rules should be made to make the re
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Hi,
I have a very strong reason for top posting and a very strong one for not
agreeing too much bottom posting at all, and this is the fact that I am
blind and if I need to read a bottom post, I need to read again and again
the whole original message, even though most of the
On Sunday 19 September 2004 19:36, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> I have a very strong reason for top posting and a very strong one for not
> agreeing too much bottom posting at all, and this is the fact that I am
> blind and if I need to read a bottom post, I need to read again and again
> the whole o
s, and try not fighting for that.
Cheers.
Teddy
- Original Message -
From: "Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] List Etiquette
On Sunday 19 September 2004 07:52, Robert Cummings wrote:
"Top posting"
Whats that?
hehehe
--- -{ Rene Brehmer }- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Most mail programs have their default settings set
> for top posting ...
> while most news clients are set for bottom posting
> which way is the
> most preferable depends on what's most useful for
> your
> -Original Message-
> >What side is that? Doesn't it depend on national preference?
>
> When I overtake others, I usually take to the other lane ... is that the
> wrong side, or the right side of the road, for what I'm doing ?
Depends on your perspective :P hehe
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On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 22:02, Jason Wong wrote:
> On Sunday 19 September 2004 07:52, Robert Cummings wrote:
>
> > But definitely there's not global consensus.
>
> I really shouldn't be indulging you as it's pretty obvious you're only here
> for a vigorous debate (that's my euphemism for an argume
PHP Warning: Missing forest, too many trees.
Lots of you are good coders, I've seen you devote immense time and
enegry to crafting informative and helpful posts for years, let's just
move on and read messages using incredibly normal skills like short-term
memory and index finger dexterity for your
At 01:40 19-09-2004, Robert Cummings wrote:
On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 18:46, Jason Wong wrote:
> On Sunday 19 September 2004 06:33, Robert Cummings wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Happy top posting,
>
> Have fun driving on the wrong side of the road.
What side is that? Doesn't it depend on national preference?
Most mail programs have their default settings set for top posting ...
while most news clients are set for bottom posting which way is the
most preferable depends on what's most useful for your reply ... but those
that enjoy mixing top and bottom posting are the daft ones ... once a
thread
On Sunday 19 September 2004 07:52, Robert Cummings wrote:
> But definitely there's not global consensus.
I really shouldn't be indulging you as it's pretty obvious you're only here
for a vigorous debate (that's my euphemism for an argument - the not so nice
meaning of argument).
The OP asked f
On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 19:42, Jason Wong wrote:
> On Sunday 19 September 2004 07:40, Robert Cummings wrote:
>
> > > Have fun driving on the wrong side of the road.
> >
> > What side is that? Doesn't it depend on national preference?
>
> Not personal preference for certain.
But definitely there's
On Sunday 19 September 2004 07:40, Robert Cummings wrote:
> > Have fun driving on the wrong side of the road.
>
> What side is that? Doesn't it depend on national preference?
Not personal preference for certain.
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On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 18:46, Jason Wong wrote:
> On Sunday 19 September 2004 06:33, Robert Cummings wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Happy top posting,
>
> Have fun driving on the wrong side of the road.
What side is that? Doesn't it depend on national preference?
Cheers,
Rob.
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.
OK, Jason. I'm throughly confused. You say:
"Top posting means one cannot reply point by point like I'm doing here."
then you state:
"Wouldn't you agree that it's easier to read something point by point
whereby you can easily see the context, instead of reading a sentence at the
top of the post
On Sunday 19 September 2004 06:46, Robert Cummings wrote:
> I think the argument was top posting versus bottom posting. Not top
> posting versus interlacing. If you have no need to reply point to point
> then there is no reason I can see why top posting is unsuitable.
I think you're splitting hai
On Sunday 19 September 2004 06:33, Robert Cummings wrote:
[snip]
> Happy top posting,
Have fun driving on the wrong side of the road.
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On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 18:11, Jason Wong wrote:
> On Sunday 19 September 2004 05:37, Andre Dubuc wrote:
>
> > After googling 'Web Etiquette, Top Posting', I still am puzzled why some
> > people on this list insist that top posting is bad form, rather than
> > personal preference. The arguments seem
*RUH ROH* Better watch out, top posting is an extremely unpopular
discussion. Some members of the list will attempt to lambaste you and
tell you that because the rules are written, then they must be the final
word. Feel free to post however you please, while the dogs might bark
loudly, they are at
On Sunday 19 September 2004 05:37, Andre Dubuc wrote:
> After googling 'Web Etiquette, Top Posting', I still am puzzled why some
> people on this list insist that top posting is bad form, rather than
> personal preference. The arguments seem to be balanced on either side.
- Top posting means one
--- Andre Dubuc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After googling 'Web Etiquette, Top Posting', I still am puzzled
> why some people on this list insist that top posting is bad form,
> rather than personal preference.
I don't think these two things are mutually exclusive.
Yes, there is a difference bet
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