Re: [Pharo-users] Installing PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Shaping
Metacello new baseline: 'PharoJS'; repository: 'github://bouraqadi/PharoJS'; load This is the officiel way of loading PharoJS as stated in Github and pharojs.org . It should work just fine but ONLY with Pharo 7. I got the above baseline to load into Pharo 7.0

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Esteban Maringolo
> Are we sure that Git is really the best way to go? Yes, it’s everywhere, but > its representation in Iceberg seems awkward or incomplete. I’ve been able to > crash several Pharo VMs with routine repo operations. This is why I backed > away recently from Pharo--that and the mush (see below).

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 7 Oct 2019, at 11:55, Esteban Maringolo wrote: > >> Are we sure that Git is really the best way to go? Yes, it’s everywhere, >> but its representation in Iceberg seems awkward or incomplete. I’ve been >> able to crash several Pharo VMs with routine repo operations. This is why I >>

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Esteban Maringolo
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:07 PM Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > On 7 Oct 2019, at 11:55, Esteban Maringolo wrote: > >> So I’m wondering when the Pharo GUI will snap as well as VW. > > > > Maybe with native widgets there will be a significant speedup, > > although I don't know whether the lag comes

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Shaping
I haven't seen is the instability of the VM you mention, it has worked pretty well for my average use, although the UX is not straightforward. Yes, lots of redirection and extra steps. Many degrees of freedom. Seemingly no good default “happy” path to simplify things a little before you sta

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread pmissech
On 07/10/2019 12:39, Shaping wrote: I haven't seen is the instability of the VM you mention, it has worked pretty well for my average use, although the UX is not straightforward. Yes, lots of redirection and extra steps.  Many degrees of freedom.  Seemingly no good default “happy” path to s

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi Esteban, Le lun. 7 oct. 2019 à 12:26, Esteban Maringolo a écrit : > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:07 PM Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > > On 7 Oct 2019, at 11:55, Esteban Maringolo wrote: > > > >> So I’m wondering when the Pharo GUI will snap as well as VW. > > > > > > Maybe with native widgets t

[Pharo-users] How to install stripe library on Pharo 7 64bit ?

2019-10-07 Thread jmathews via Pharo-users
--- Begin Message --- Hi, I am just starting to work with Pharo and Seaside to create a website that accepts payments though stripe. Smalltalk is supported as a third party library according to https://stripe.com/docs/libraries#third-party However I cannot get it to install. Is the stripe libr

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 7 Oct 2019, at 12:39, Shaping wrote: > > I haven't seen is the instability of the VM you mention, it has worked pretty > well for my average use, although the UX is not straightforward. > > Yes, lots of redirection and extra steps. Many degrees of freedom. > Seemingly no good default

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread pmissech
On 07/10/2019 14:23, Shaping wrote: Correction length is 264.  The debugger abbreviates the string with an ellipsis.    Registry entry removes the 260-character limit.   Not sure why this does not work: 'C:/Users/Crypto/Documents/Pharo/images/PharoJS in 7.0 64-bit/pharo-local/iceberg/boura

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
> On 7 Oct 2019, at 05:12, Shaping wrote: > > How does PharoJS deal with the JS reuse issue? There are lots of JS widgets > out there that we would just like to use, but we don’t want to read JS if we > don’t have to. There are many wheels to reinvent, or at least recode in DSL, > if I un

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
Some of my students reported similar errors with gitlib on Windows on other projects (not PharoJS). Removing spaces from the image name helps. Noury > On 7 Oct 2019, at 14:23, Shaping wrote: > > Correction length is 264. The debugger abbreviates the string with an > ellipsis.Registry en

Re: [Pharo-users] JS charting widgets in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
I'm not aware of anyone doing it. Noury > On 7 Oct 2019, at 06:44, Shaping wrote: > > Does anyone have experience with JS financial charting widgets like > > https://app.fintatech.com/demo > > in PharoJS? > > > Shaping

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Shaping
I haven't used your latest "native widgets" (GTK) build, but as long as the UI isn't programmed to be as async as possible, then any non-UI related event will slowdown or micro-block the UI, causing the noticed latency. That's interesting. Yes, we need async updating without the microblocki

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Shaping
Thanks, Ben. From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Ben Coman Sent: Monday, 7 October, 2019 06:16 To: Any question about pharo is welcome Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Installing PharoJS On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 09:57, Shaping mailto:shap...@uurda.org>

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Shaping
I would like to know more about the native widgets in Pharo. Does anyone know when this is likely to happen? I know, since I’m doing it :) Native widgets (more like “gtk widgets”. This is technically just native under linux, but Gtk3 works very well both in Windows and Mac (you just has to

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Shaping
How does PharoJS deal with the JS reuse issue? There are lots of JS widgets out there that we would just like to use, but we don’t want to read JS if we don’t have to. There are many wheels to reinvent, or at least recode in DSL, if I understand the PharoJS scheme correctly, but I may not.

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Shaping
On 7 Oct 2019, at 05:12, Shaping mailto:shap...@uurda.org> > wrote: How does PharoJS deal with the JS reuse issue? There are lots of JS widgets out there that we would just like to use, but we don’t want to read JS if we don’t have to. There are many wheels to reinvent, or at least recode

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread David Mason
The PharoJS FAQ page describes this:     https://pharojs.github.io/faq.html ../Dave On Oct 7, 2019, 8:41 AM -0400, Noury Bouraqadi , wrote: > > > > On 7 Oct 2019, at 05:12, Shaping wrote: > > > > How does PharoJS deal with the JS reuse issue?   There are lots of JS > > widgets out there that we

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
> On 7 Oct 2019, at 15:27, Shaping wrote: > > How does PharoJS deal with the JS reuse issue? There are lots of JS widgets > out there that we would just like to use, but we don’t want to read JS if we > don’t have to. There are many wheels to reinvent, or at least recode in DSL, > if I un

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
> On 7 Oct 2019, at 15:41, Shaping wrote: > > On 7 Oct 2019, at 05:12, Shaping > wrote: > > How does PharoJS deal with the JS reuse issue? There are lots of JS widgets > out there that we would just like to use, but we don’t want to read JS if we > don’t have to

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Shaping
Thanks, Noury. I got PharoJS baseline to load into a Widows 10 Pharo 7.0 64-bit, but the Launcher is still flaky. With the folder now moved (to where paths will be shorter and workable), I don’t see the newly created images in the right pane. I have to cycle the Launcher for that to happen

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread Shaping
Are you saying that none of the JS was manually written or that some of it was and the rest is coming from an imported library. I’m looking at the page in Chrome dev tools now. Exactly. That's the whole point of having PharoJS :-) Exactly. But then I don’t understand Cincom’s

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo: Git and GUI speed; JS widget reuse in PharoJS

2019-10-07 Thread giorgio ferraris
Hello, Regarding native widget, on the VW side the usage on them brought slowness on the OSX platform. Windows platform is speedy, but OSX platform is slower using native widget than with emulated ones. So native widget alone are not always a solution. ciao giorgio On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 2:08 PM

Re: [Pharo-users] How to install stripe library on Pharo 7 64bit ?

2019-10-07 Thread Paul DeBruicker
Oh sorry. I haven't updated the load instructions in a while. I'll edit them there today. Try this instead. Metacello new baseline:'Stripe'; repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/pdebruic/Stripe/main'; load:#('Tests' 'Seaside-Example') Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list

Re: [Pharo-users] How to install stripe library on Pharo 7 64bit ?

2019-10-07 Thread jmathews via Pharo-users
--- Begin Message --- Hi Paul, Thanks for the update. I tried your new code and it went futher than last time. However the debugger shows up during cleanup and the entire image hangs. I've attached a screenshot. I also retested this with a completely fresh image using pharolauncher with the sa