Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

I'm currently travelling behind the Great Firewall of China with limited Internet so I may not be able to respond promptly. I saw the thread re-developing but only managed to get a private comment through to Richard. First, I need to apologize to Michael and the community for not yet doing what I'

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

Thanks guys - I think some useful clarifications came out of this - and I hope it doesn’t dent anyone’s enthusiasm to spreading the good word about all useful technology and approaches. > On 11 Apr 2019, at 08:28, Michael Zeder wrote: > > > >> How about we just move on? > > Thanks. I have r

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

How about we just move on? Thanks. I have responded in private to persons who asked for it, to not further flood the list. To close this thread, I feel it may be necessary to say something conciliatory: So, apology to Richard for being rude and loud. I was pushing for reactions, and sinc

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

+1 /*—-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org > On Apr 10, 2019, at 12:38, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > > How about we just move on? I don’t see much usefulness in arguing over older >

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

How about we just move on? I don’t see much usefulness in arguing over older stuff - I’m sure you/we/them will have different opinions on levels of incorrectness - honestly it’s not worth it. I think you’ve defended your corner fine , but I would much prefer that everyone focuses on the merits

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

On 28. 2. 2019 18:02, Esteban Maringolo wrote: Hi Michael, I share the belief that beyond some point pushing for something can backfire, and if you keep going then you enter into the trolls or fanatics zone. However I don't believe the community has to do something, or exclude anybody. In a

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

Just to prove that I'm a very reasonable person, I make this unconditional offer... If Michael can identify which of my JavaScript and Python articles are in error and point out the specific falsehoods, I will correct them. I presume that not ALL of my criticisms are unjustified. This should assu

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

As a point of honour, there are statements here that I cannot leave unchallenged. "but before that, he showed up without any Smalltalk background..." This is an unacceptable smear. Without any Smalltalk background? In 2007, I wrote a Seaside application in Squeak for a psychiatrist acquaintance o

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

I thought it was interesting at the recent Pharo Days that there was an attendee from the clinical medical field - who had heard about Smalltalk and wanted to learn more. When we asked him where he heard about it, he referenced these Mr Smalltalk medium articles in question - so I guess there’s

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

On 2019-04-09 1:17 p.m., horrido wrote: BTW, I've also said many unkind things about Python. And C++. And Scala and Swift. But I'm being criticized for what I've said about JavaScript? Really??? There is certainly no hint of bias here. Richard, you keep doing what you're doing; that guy doesn'

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

BTW, I've also said many unkind things about Python. And C++. And Scala and Swift. But I'm being criticized for what I've said about JavaScript? Really??? There is certainly no hint of bias here. Michael J. Zeder wrote > Hey Ben, > > I leave it with this answer, as you suggested, thank you fo

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

I just accidentally came across this thread. I feel I have to provide some clarifications... First of all, the sobriquet "Mr. Smalltalk" started way back in October of 2016 with this article . It was meant as a marketing gim

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

Hey Ben, I leave it with this answer, as you suggested, thank you for picking up the ball! First, I admit again, I have thought about it one whole day, if and how I should do this "intervention", which is absolutly not my usual style, but I decided for myself, to be intentionally blunt, provoc

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

Hi Michael, Thanks for your thoughtful followup. On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 19:59, Michael Zeder wrote: > > I have carefully thought about, if I should really go publicly against one > person within the community, and to start this "tirade", including the > possibility that this causes an escalation

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

@Esteban: Thanks for your balanced answer. got it. But I get back to the point of "silencing/ban" (which is not my suggestion). @Eduardo: Right, sorry, this should have been more clearly (and I did not want to be condescending towards newcomers). Soft skills and people who create articles, tut