On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:28 PM, kilon alios wrote:
> A problem I have with pharoLaunher is that I want to help out to improve it
> but I cant for the life of me figure out the code. I think the most
> important thing is to document it so it will allow people like me to improve
> it easier. I dont
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Andy Burnett <
andy.burn...@knowinnovation.com> wrote:
> Obviously, we can do all of this, but it has never been quite as obvious
> as I would like it to be.
if you go to the settings of Pharo Launcher, you can now choose where your
images should be.
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Damie
On 23 Dec 2013, at 14:05, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
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> On 23 Dec 2013, at 01:17, Johan Fabry wrote:
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>> On Dec 22, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Mark Bestley wrote:
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>>> On 22/12/2013 14:04, Johan Fabry wrote:
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>> Also, I think it is very wrong to keep the images in the Library
>> fo
On 23 Dec 2013, at 01:17, Johan Fabry wrote:
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> On Dec 22, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Mark Bestley wrote:
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>> On 22/12/2013 14:04, Johan Fabry wrote:
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> Also, I think it is very wrong to keep the images in the Library
> folder by default. The Library is "hidden" and a "black magic - do no
On Dec 22, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Mark Bestley wrote:
> On 22/12/2013 14:04, Johan Fabry wrote:
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Also, I think it is very wrong to keep the images in the Library
folder by default. The Library is "hidden" and a "black magic - do not
touch" area for the common user. A sensible default
On 22/12/2013 14:04, Johan Fabry wrote:
Also, I think it is very wrong to keep the images in the Library
folder by default. The Library is "hidden" and a "black magic - do not
touch" area for the common user. A sensible default is the Documents folder.
If a user thinks the Library is black ma
Hi Ben,
It's cultural I would say. The purpose of the Library folder is to hold
preferences, caches, et cetera. Never user documents. There is a bunch of stuff
in there that actually I don't even have an idea of. Moreover, as standard the
Library is a hidden folder now.
On Dec 22, 2013, at 7:
Johan, I don't use a Mac so... Is the "Show in folder" menu item not
sufficient to make it less black-magic - or is there a greater cultural
aversion to putting images under Library?
Damien, Maybe for cross-platform consistency that is a Pharo feature
(mostly), this should wait until there ar
A problem I have with pharoLaunher is that I want to help out to improve it
but I cant for the life of me figure out the code. I think the most
important thing is to document it so it will allow people like me to
improve it easier. I dont expect anyone to tell me exactly how each method
works but a
2013/12/20 Yuriy Tymchuk :
> Just of curiosity, do you use iTunes, or organise music in directories by
> yourself? :)
I moved from file based management (by myself) to services like
Spotify/Grooveshark.
I skipped the iTunes like music management.
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Esteban.
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That is a good question. I have to admit that I do use iTunes, and I have
often been annoyed by not being able to - easily - find the files. I can
certainly see the value of presenting end users with simple interfaces, but
I am with Johan, I would like to be able to put my images somewhere more
Ah, and I *hate* that when I remove music in iTunes that I have to confirm that
I want the files to be moved to the trash and not leave them on disc. Trash it
already! That's what it means to delete music! I don't want to have a bunch of
orphaned files taking up space.
On Dec 20, 2013, at 11:
*"in this one, I’m with you… using Library folder is just plain wrong." *
I will have to agree too. I would expect the launcher to put them in the
same folder as launcher or a folder than user chooses.
I am also a big hater of shared libraries and their shared
folders. Uninstalling them is a pai
After long consideration of the subject, I allow iTunes to organize music
because:
- it structures things how *I* want them to be structured : Music -> Artists ->
Albums -> track name with number.
- they are in the right place: the Music directory. Not in Library
If iTunes would behave differe
On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:40, Johan Fabry wrote:
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> Also, I think it is very wrong to keep the images in the Library folder by
> default. The Library is "hidden" and a "black magic - do not touch" area for
> the common user. A sensible default is the Documents folder.
in this one, I’m with you
I think we should offer both: launcher for newbies and simple images like now
for power users.
On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:35, Johan Fabry wrote:
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> I am an old-school guy, I just double-click on images to open them. So I
> guess that as long as that keeps on working I don't really mind what the
On 20 Dec 2013, at 15:04, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
> Just of curiosity, do you use iTunes, or organise music in directories by
> yourself? :)
+1 :)
>
> Uko
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> On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:54, Johan Fabry wrote:
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>> Sure. As I said before, I am old-school and double click on my images. So
>> f
Just of curiosity, do you use iTunes, or organise music in directories by
yourself? :)
Uko
On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:54, Johan Fabry wrote:
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> Sure. As I said before, I am old-school and double click on my images. So for
> me they are just documents, like any other, and I use the finder extensi
2013/12/20 Johan Fabry :
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> Sure. As I said before, I am old-school and double click on my images. So for
> me they are just documents, like any other, and I use the finder extensively
> for all my document manipulation stuff. I don't want to open a special tool
> to do the stuff I can do alrea
Sure. As I said before, I am old-school and double click on my images. So for
me they are just documents, like any other, and I use the finder extensively
for all my document manipulation stuff. I don't want to open a special tool to
do the stuff I can do already in the finder. Also having mega
Yes, but this depends if you want to show image, changes, etc… file to users or
not. For me it’s ok as far as I have enough tools to manipulate images
Uko
On 20 Dec 2013, at 14:40, Johan Fabry wrote:
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> Also, I think it is very wrong to keep the images in the Library folder by
> default. Th
Also, I think it is very wrong to keep the images in the Library folder by
default. The Library is "hidden" and a "black magic - do not touch" area for
the common user. A sensible default is the Documents folder.
On Dec 20, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> what do you t
I am an old-school guy, I just double-click on images to open them. So I guess
that as long as that keeps on working I don't really mind what the default
behavior for other cases is.
But I do agree that there should be more explanation on how to use the launcher
(and some publicity). As is, ho
On 20 Dec 2013, at 10:44, Damien Cassou wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> what do you think about setting the PharoLauncher as the default
> download for mac os x users?
I would start by featuring it more prominently on the download page while
explaining clearly what it does. Maybe it also needs its own
Hi guys,
what do you think about setting the PharoLauncher as the default
download for mac os x users?
If you never tried the launcher, please try it now:
Mac OS X:
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher-Mac-Package/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/pharo-ci/Pharo%203.0.0.dmg
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