Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 7 and shortcuts

2018-07-08 Thread Tim Mackinnon
I find the inconsistency the worst problem, sometimes cmd-m sometimes cmd-b,m and sometimes both work. I can handle double keys for lesser used items, but some really common code editing things need a single key. I would actually like more shortcuts available for code refactoring like inlining

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 7 and shortcuts

2018-07-08 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, > On 7 Jul 2018, at 17:18, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > >> Am 07.07.2018 um 17:08 schrieb Cyril Ferlicot D. : >> >>> Le 07/07/2018 à 16:17, Ben Coman a écrit : >>> Any seeming agreement may just have been the nay-sayers falling silent since >>> there seemed little chance of having it chang

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 7 and shortcuts

2018-07-07 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Shortcuts have long been a thorn for Pharo, the lack of global state and the fact that are hard coded. Colors and Themes had the same issue and it was the effort Esteban who wanted to bring the dark theme that really changed this. I suspect like Theme these are legacy Squeak stuff that are not easy

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 7 and shortcuts

2018-07-07 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 07.07.2018 um 17:08 schrieb Cyril Ferlicot D. : > >> Le 07/07/2018 à 16:17, Ben Coman a écrit : >> Any seeming agreement may just have been the nay-sayers falling silent since >> there seemed little chance of having it changed when it came as a >> done-deal with Nautilus. >> Personally I t

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 7 and shortcuts

2018-07-07 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
Le 07/07/2018 à 16:17, Ben Coman a écrit : > Any seeming agreement may just have been the nay-sayers falling silent since > there seemed little chance of having it changed when it came as a > done-deal with Nautilus. > Personally I tried to conform to using the double-sequence-shortcuts > but could

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 7 and shortcuts

2018-07-07 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 07.07.2018 um 16:17 schrieb Ben Coman : > >> On 7 July 2018 at 20:35, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> Maybe I missed an important discussion but as I’m trying pharo7 now and I >> wonder about the keyboard shortcuts. >> >> Wasn’t the old agreement moving to the multiple keys? So browsing senders

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 7 and shortcuts

2018-07-07 Thread Ben Coman
On 7 July 2018 at 20:35, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Maybe I missed an important discussion but as I’m trying pharo7 now and I > wonder about the keyboard shortcuts. > > Wasn’t the old agreement moving to the multiple keys? So browsing senders > with CMD-bn instead of the old CMD-n? Any seeming agre

[Pharo-users] Pharo 7 and shortcuts

2018-07-07 Thread Norbert Hartl
Maybe I missed an important discussion but as I’m trying pharo7 now and I wonder about the keyboard shortcuts. Wasn’t the old agreement moving to the multiple keys? So browsing senders with CMD-bn instead of the old CMD-n? What I find really confusing is that the shortcut keys in the menu are