Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

2015-07-16 Thread Hilaire
Le 16/07/2015 23:54, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > Hum, do you mean we should cache the cairo surface (or the cairo > paint, I remember that code was a bit strange)? > Yes, but now looking at the code it looks like surface is cached with the tile as id: paint := athensCanvas cacheAt: aTile ifAbs

Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

2015-07-16 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-07-16 17:44 GMT+02:00 Hilaire : > Le 16/07/2015 16:53, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > > More, RTOSM now will do a file-based cache of the tiles, so, if you > > prepare the demo beforehand, then your Pharo will have preloaded the > > tiles and will not tap into the tile servers. > > > > We still

Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

2015-07-16 Thread Hilaire
Le 16/07/2015 16:53, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > More, RTOSM now will do a file-based cache of the tiles, so, if you > prepare the demo beforehand, then your Pharo will have preloaded the > tiles and will not tap into the tile servers. > > We still have unexpected latency issues, but I haven't adde

Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

2015-07-16 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 16 Jul 2015, at 11:04, Thierry Goubier wrote: > > > > 2015-07-16 10:52 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Bergel : > Hi! > > The OpenStreetMap support in Roassal works pretty well… The easiest way to > start is probably take the latest version of Moose. Open the example browser > and look for OpenStr

Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

2015-07-16 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 16-07-15 10:53, Thierry Goubier wrote: More, RTOSM now will do a file-based cache of the tiles, so, if you prepare the demo beforehand, then your Pharo will have preloaded the tiles and will not tap into the tile servers. Thanks, that is a welcome improvement. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

2015-07-16 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-07-16 10:52 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Bergel : > Hi! > > The OpenStreetMap support in Roassal works pretty well… The easiest way to > start is probably take the latest version of Moose. Open the example > browser and look for OpenStreetMap Integration. > > Thierry, although pretty cool, I have the

Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

2015-07-16 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! The OpenStreetMap support in Roassal works pretty well… The easiest way to start is probably take the latest version of Moose. Open the example browser and look for OpenStreetMap Integration. Thierry, although pretty cool, I have the impression the integration could be better. Here is a wi

Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

2015-07-16 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-07-16 9:50 GMT+02:00 Hilaire : > Le 16/07/2015 13:51, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > > > > Do you need a dedicated tile server or the generic ones? We had an > > issue trying to accelerate tile loading when improving that part > > during PharoDays. > > I am wondering if the used server is the ge

Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

2015-07-16 Thread Hilaire
Le 16/07/2015 13:51, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > > Do you need a dedicated tile server or the generic ones? We had an > issue trying to accelerate tile loading when improving that part > during PharoDays. I am wondering if the used server is the geographically closest one. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo ht

Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

2015-07-15 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 16/07/2015 03:59, Hilaire a écrit : Hi Thierry, This is what I did, I pick up latest Moose, and play a bit. It is nice indeed. A few remarks - loading the tiles is slow, does it comes from me? I am right on the local tile server in Hsinchu.. I am not sure the right tile server is used. a.til

Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

2015-07-15 Thread Hilaire
Hi Thierry, This is what I did, I pick up latest Moose, and play a bit. It is nice indeed. A few remarks - loading the tiles is slow, does it comes from me? I am right on the local tile server in Hsinchu.. I am not sure the right tile server is used. a.tile.openstreetmap.org - the graphic quality

Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

2015-07-15 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Easiest way to get started is to download a recent moose image and look at the roassal examples using OSM. From the FOSDEM demo we know that when you want to do a live demonstration you either have to be very sure you do not use a shared medium like wifi for the network, or that the tile data come

Re: [Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

2015-07-15 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi Hilaire, OSM tiles support was added to Roassal, and demonstrated in two videos [1][2]. The context of the work was presented at FOSDEM [3]. In the pillarhub document, I demonstrated how to query the raw OSM data; we made sure that the tile support and georeferenced data could go on the s

[Pharo-users] Openstreetmap on Pharo

2015-07-15 Thread Hilaire
Hi, In a few weeks I will give a speech in Taiwan at NCHC[1] about Pharo, my intend is to present release 4. I already did speeches there in the past about Pharo, but I have a hard time to raise interest to the point people want to jump in. But I hope to have an angle this time because NCHC recent