Maybe this could become some kind of pillar file...
But things are changing a lot these days with SDL2 etc.
It is converging
- SDL2 stabilisation
- Sparta integrated into Bloc
- TxText optimisation
- Bloc stabilization
Thales guys are starting to use it.
Stef
Any roadmap
Maybe this could become some kind of pillar file...
But things are changing a lot these days with SDL2 etc.
Any roadmap of these somewhere?
Phil
On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 7:03 PM, stepharo wrote:
> Thibault
>
> you should talk also with Glenn and Alain to get feedback. They will visit
> us in No
Thibault
you should talk also with Glenn and Alain to get feedback. They will
visit us in Nov.
Stef
Le 7/10/16 à 15:14, Thibault Raffaillac a écrit :
Thanks for these mails, that's actually very helpful!
I am working on a shorter syntax for animations at the moment (than
GLMAnimation, Viv
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Thibault Raffaillac
wrote:
> Thanks for these mails, that's actually very helpful!
> I am working on a shorter syntax for animations at the moment (than
> GLMAnimation, Viva, Bloc-Animation), and could not find a proper equivalent
> to requestAnimationFrame (i.e.
Thanks for these mails, that's actually very helpful!
I am working on a shorter syntax for animations at the moment (than
GLMAnimation, Viva, Bloc-Animation), and could not find a proper equivalent to
requestAnimationFrame (i.e. that would be independent of any UI yet in sync
with display, and a
ere is some interesting event loop stuff from Tcl.
http://wiki.tcl.tk/2567
I wish we had some easy Tk UI building things in Pharo.
Me too :)
First I want Bloc to get out and be ready for integration to Pharo but
it takes time.
Spec is okay but not intuitive. As it is the only thing that
Thanks Ben.
I can tell you that we want to remove all such activeHand. :)
One day it will come.
Stef
Le 3/10/16 à 12:25, Ben Coman a écrit :
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Ben Coman wrote:
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 3:49 PM, CodeDmitry wrote:
a JavaScript timeout is a function that takes a
Le 3/10/16 à 17:25, p...@highoctane.be a écrit :
Case in point, I am submitting a proposal here:
https://devfest.be/blog/posts/cfp/
That's Google tech event here.
I proposed to showcase MDL in Pharo along with workshop. Let's see how
it goes...
Nice :)
Cyril will be happy :)
Stef
Phil
Cool.
Now, I think we should do:
WorldState MinCycleLapse: 16.
So that we get a real 60FPS when moving windows around instead of the
default 20 which is 50FPS, and not as smooth.
Set it at 10 and it is too much, but hey, we have a lot of power these days.
Try to set it to 200 and suffer :-p
You seem to have answered my question as I was revising it D:
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Also, check
MorphicUIManager>>#spawnNewProcess
UIProcess := [
[World doOneCycle. Processor yield. false] whileFalse: [].
] newProcess priority: Processor userSchedulingPriority.
UIProcess name: 'Morphic UI Process'.
UIProcess resume
digging into doOneCycle, you'll find:
#doOneCycleFor: aWorld
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:47 PM, CodeDmitry wrote:
> LOL (in GrowlMorph):
> is: rect saneWithRespectTo: morphs
>
> ^(morphs anySatisfy: [ :morph | morph owner isNotNil and: [morph
> bounds
> intersects: rect]]) not
>
> for some reason I find this method name quite amusing :3
>
There are i
LOL (in GrowlMorph):
is: rect saneWithRespectTo: morphs
^(morphs anySatisfy: [ :morph | morph owner isNotNil and: [morph bounds
intersects: rect]]) not
for some reason I find this method name quite amusing :3
Let me guess;
1. "World defer: aBlock." defers the event to be called as soo
Case in point, I am submitting a proposal here:
https://devfest.be/blog/posts/cfp/
That's Google tech event here.
I proposed to showcase MDL in Pharo along with workshop. Let's see how it
goes...
Phil
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Thibault Raffaillac <
thibault.raffail...@inria.fr> wrote:
> I am not very fond of event loops in general, because they imply "many
> inputs, one output" (process all pending events, then update screen).
>
For Morphic this is fine, because it displays on one screen,
Hi,
On 02/10/16 17:13, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
[...]
Use it whenever you can, it will force you to understand how to do
real stuff with it properly.
I do hackathons with it.
https://hackernoon.com/hackapost-how-hackathons-can-be-the-best-learning-tool-under-the-sun-9c97e567e0a5
As com
I am not very fond of event loops in general, because they imply "many inputs,
one output" (process all pending events, then update screen).
For Morphic this is fine, because it displays on one screen, refreshing
at/around its frequency. But there might be other screens, or network-output,
file-
Here is some interesting event loop stuff from Tcl.
http://wiki.tcl.tk/2567
I wish we had some easy Tk UI building things in Pharo.
Spec is okay but not intuitive. As it is the only thing that exposes the
myriad of various Morphs we have and shields us (somewhat) from the
underlying details, we
A good trick is to use raw Display output.
Display getCanvas
drawString: 'hello'
from: 1
to: 5
autoBoundAt: 0 @ 0
font: nil
color: Color black.
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Ben Coman wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Ben Coman wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 3:49 PM, CodeDmitry
There has been some serious refactoring occuring in these specific bowels
of the beast.
Phil
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Denis Kudriashov
wrote:
> Hi Ben.
>
> 2016-10-03 12:37 GMT+02:00 Ben Coman :
>
>> A further curiousity occurs to me. With this being executed 20 times
>> a second or mor
UIManager>>#defer: aBlock can be useful too.
defer: aBlock
" Evaluate the given Block in the UI thread as soon as there is nothing
scheduled. Evaluate immediately when there is no UI"
aBlock value
For some fun, check also GrowlMorph
10 timesRepeat: [
(GrowlMorph openWithLabel: 'The time' conte
Hi Ben.
2016-10-03 12:37 GMT+02:00 Ben Coman :
> A further curiousity occurs to me. With this being executed 20 times
> a second or more, how can the active hand ever be anything other than
> the primary hand?
> Why isn't the active hand stored, all hands cycled through processing
> events, then
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Ben Coman wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Ben Coman wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 3:49 PM, CodeDmitry wrote:
>>> a JavaScript timeout is a function that takes a block and a period of time,
>>> and after this period of time, puts the block at the end o
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Ben Coman wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 3:49 PM, CodeDmitry wrote:
>> a JavaScript timeout is a function that takes a block and a period of time,
>> and after this period of time, puts the block at the end of the event
>> queue, to be executed as soon as the run
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 3:49 PM, CodeDmitry wrote:
> a JavaScript timeout is a function that takes a block and a period of time,
> and after this period of time, puts the block at the end of the event
> queue, to be executed as soon as the runtime is done performing the tasks in
> front of it.
>
>
And if this just for a graphical clock, a morph with step should be doing
the trick.
stepTime can be set as well.
Phil
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Denis Kudriashov
wrote:
> Hi.
>
> 2016-10-03 9:49 GMT+02:00 CodeDmitry :
>
>> a JavaScript timeout is a function that takes a block and a perio
Interesting, I got to play around with these, do some async morph animations.
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Hi.
2016-10-03 9:49 GMT+02:00 CodeDmitry :
> a JavaScript timeout is a function that takes a block and a period of time,
> and after this period of time, puts the block at the end of the event
> queue, to be executed as soon as the runtime is done performing the tasks
> in
> front of it.
>
> I a
of course Pharo has an event queue, we call them announcements. That
implies however that you want the code to execute as soon as something else
happens. If you don't , fork and delay should be enough. With fork you dont
need to wait for othet tasks to finish to execute your code, it will just
put
a JavaScript timeout is a function that takes a block and a period of time,
and after this period of time, puts the block at the end of the event
queue, to be executed as soon as the runtime is done performing the tasks in
front of it.
I am not sure if Pharo has an event queue, so it's a bit hard
+1
We want to support Windows!
But ... 64 bits, FFI++, ARM ... well you know. Gimme 10 Millions or just
one million
and the situation will be really different.
Stef
By the way I am all for COM for Pharo, the issue is that 2/3 of our
community are MacOS and Linux users , I dont even remember t
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:52 AM, CodeDmitry wrote:
> @kilon.alios
>
> [1]
> I like C++/CLI more than C# because it is very refreshing to use a
> language capable of using managed memory and unmanaged memory.
>
> I am too used to being in languages where garbage collection is
> forced on you and eve
Ok. Fine points.
Want to contribute? Easy: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/
Even more easy: join the association @ http://association.pharo.org/
Being using it for serious stuff and make money out of it? Join the
consortium : http://consortium.pharo.org/
Discover some little interesting gem or way to
you dont need to have a lot of experience to contribute, even with zero
experience as a coder if you understand the basics you can at least
contribute class comments. Contribution wise Pharo is quite flexible and if
one is lost in the process people are more than happy to help him/her out.
When I h
Contribution is something I've been thinking about for quite some time
because it's interesting how a lot of software is declared "open" but make
it not obvious what you can do to help, or at least participate, or just
take a glimpse at the code to see if something stands out.
I am a believer that
I don't speak for the pharo community but even when I was new to smalltalk
back 4 years ago if I have read a comment like "Smalltalk is dead, why are
we studying this useless language" I would keep my distance from that
person. Because a) calling something "dead" in software is stupid b)
calling so
On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 8:52 PM, CodeDmitry wrote:
> @kilon.alios
>
> [1]
> I like C++/CLI more than C# because it is very refreshing to use a
> language capable of using managed memory and unmanaged memory.
>
> I am too used to being in languages where garbage collection is
> forced on you and ev
@kilon.alios
[1]
I like C++/CLI more than C# because it is very refreshing to use a
language capable of using managed memory and unmanaged memory.
I am too used to being in languages where garbage collection is
forced on you and everything must be done via new or stack types
such as Java, most
I would for sure second that.
I am using COM for dealing with this thing: http://www.sparxsystems.com/
about all day long a couple days a week.
Bridging this with Roassal/Moose for additional visualisations would be
super (I am going to look at that one in the coming weeks to help with the
overal
Well first of all what you linked supports my claim that 2/3 of Pharo users
are MacOS and Linux users which I based on another survey which pretty much
verifies what you linked.
Second the vast majorities of libraries out other for any programming
language are cross platform so I am willing to bet
2016-10-02 10:57 GMT-03:00 Dimitris Chloupis :
> By the way I am all for COM for Pharo, the issue is that 2/3 of our
> community are MacOS and Linux users , I dont even remember the last time we
> had a Windows only topic in the mailing list. Modern languages generally
> avoid using OS specific lib
By the way I am all for COM for Pharo, the issue is that 2/3 of our
community are MacOS and Linux users , I dont even remember the last time we
had a Windows only topic in the mailing list. Modern languages generally
avoid using OS specific libraries, the last exceptions be C# and Swift and
C# defi
Well that is not fair because C++ CLI is basically C++ .NET which is
another language altogether baring some resemblance to C++.
And you dont need C++ CLI to sit on barrier of runtime and compile , C++
can do this just fine.
I found this recently trying to experiment at whether its possible to do
To be fair, C++CLI is quite a pleasure to code, it's a very refreshing
technology that sits nicely on the barrier of runtime and compiletime,
similar to Objective C; eg still has access to unmanaged resources, while
still having managed resources in contrast to Java/C# which kinda go one
step towar
> On 2 Oct 2016, at 07:09, stepharo wrote:
>
> ;)
>
>
> btw are working on a com lib for pharo because we were discussing it with
> esteban
yes, Pablo already has a prototype working :)
Esteban
>
>
>
> Le 2/10/16 à 04:09, CodeDmitry a écrit :
>> Just made this image, I thought it would
Hey, all you have to do is reboot your computer (often).
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 1, 2016, at 22:53, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>
> Ah the ugliness of Windoom programming has not changed since the last time I
> tried to learn MFC 20 years ago.it melts my eyes.
>
> COM is an IPC tool, Wind
Ah the ugliness of Windoom programming has not changed since the last time
I tried to learn MFC 20 years ago.it melts my eyes.
COM is an IPC tool, Windows registry is still a horrible idea. No
connection with Smalltalk whatsoever . And of course we don't worry about
memory leaks.
On Sun, 2 Oct 20
;)
btw are working on a com lib for pharo because we were discussing it
with esteban
Le 2/10/16 à 04:09, CodeDmitry a écrit :
Just made this image, I thought it would be fun to share :3 (Yes there are a
few memory leaks there due to no SysFreeString to match SysAllocString, but
regardless.
Just made this image, I thought it would be fun to share :3 (Yes there are a
few memory leaks there due to no SysFreeString to match SysAllocString, but
regardless...
http://i.imgur.com/Fz36SHU.png
COM to Microsoft Windows seems to be like Smalltalk to Smalltalk Runtime,
with Object Browser being
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