"Abusing an external text editor is a slap in the face of anyone building
good tooling support into Smalltalk over many years.
I know Dimitris tried to help people (as often) - but I guess this video
really gives a false impression and guides people the wrong way."
Abusing ? Wait what on earth you
I think you got this the wrong way
Sure emacs and vim are very popular when compared to Pharo.
When compared to IDEs oh boy , that's another story.
There is a reason why their hardcore user are so desperate to call them
IDEs and is not because they like IDEs, they dont.
They hate IDEs.
Text based
- Resize the method panel.
>>
>
> Also, basic things like:
> - Move to the next word.
> - Highlight previous word.
> - Highlight current line.
>
> That would be very helpful for me. I'm not saying it's difficult to do,
> I'm just saying for me it&
ected way to
> communicate with live objects. Mouse, then keyboard. Not good.
>
> El jue., 24 ene. 2019 a las 18:36, Dimitris Chloupis (<
> kilon.al...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>
>> "I am sure there will always be skeptics. But my own experience was
>> different.
"I am sure there will always be skeptics. But my own experience was
different. For me, the most weird thing about Squeak (and now Pharo) IDE
is its insistence in showing only one method at a time. A method is too
small a chunk of code. It is easy to miss the forest for the trees. In
Dimitris video,
64 bit is finally here, amazing work guys, I was thinking making a torrent
client of sorts with Pharo using libtorrent library
https://www.libtorrent.org/
To anyone who has not tried the FFI , you should even if you dont care
about C its amazingly well designed , so kudos to Esteban, Igor and whoe
Personally I like the idea of turning this into a static web site, static
websites can use bootstrap so they can play well with mobile devices too
and then its easy to host on Github or Gitlab or whatever and avoid such
pains. It will also make it much easier to manage. But hey I am nowhere
near to
"Honestly, Pharo without the environment (and the “live objects” approach)
is just another dynamic language without much interest.
Thinking the IDE is just autocompletion is a poor idea of what a live
environment can do for you."
And I repeat once more, I NEVER said use external editor instead of
"Thank you! I'm one of those"
"wow.. thank you :D"
"Everybody is of course totally free to do whatever they want, but really,
why the hell would you want to do that ?"
I can think a few million reasons. Vim and Emacs for example with tons of
internal and external tools , handling code, documentat
Often we have users of emacs and vim that request a way to use their
favorite shortcuts or features. Some even ask "Would not be nice if I could
use my favorite code editor with Pharo ?"
Actually not only you can do it, its also very easy. So the following video
tutorial explains in the first 3 mi
I am happy to annoyance a new channel in our Discord Server , #news
News is a read only channel (members cannot post there only admins) that I
intended to act as a newspaper of short that you can read with your morning
coffee to get all the latest news in the Pharo land.
The rules of the channel
If you want to join our Discord server click the following link
https://discord.gg/QewZMZa
Dimitris Chloupis via Pharo-users <
pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote:
> I leave the handling of the invite link up to the admins. I made several
> of you admins as experienced members of this community so that you can
> handle situations like this. As always my policy has been to
f.Any direction you decide to follow, you have my blessing.
In any case spamming is far from Discord exclusive problem and it has
happened even in this mailing list. So there is no ideal solution.
On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 8:58 PM Ben Coman wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 at 00:00, Dimitris Chloupis via Pha
--- Begin Message ---
Hello people , as you may or may not be aware we have a spammer that posts
links to sexual content sites. This is of course an unacceptable situation
so I had to delete all existing invite links.
This means that from now on I will not allow members to create their own
invite
17, 2018 at 01:38:36PM +0300, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
> > About your last part on platforms, I will be providing a way to inline C
> > code so one can you use C macros to detect the platform and generate code
> > accordingly.
>
> Smalltalk/X allows inline C. Not sure abou
op that started.
>
> As a workaround you can do parseExpression:onError: (or whatever the name
> is)... or I've made a small wrapper which doesn't suffer from thsi
> https://github.com/peteruhnak/pharo-changes-builder
>
> Peter
>
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 5:00 PM D
If I do something normal in the Playground like
RBParser parseExpression: 'bac' and inspect it , it works fine
If I do something like
RBParser parseExpression: 'bac->'. Then it displays an error and things
really get weird
I get redraw problems with Morphic(if I start moving windows around), with
ttp://forum.world.st/Re-ANN-Lowtalk-a-new-Smalltalk-dialect-that-could-eventually-replace-Slang-td4966907.html
>
> cheers -ben
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 19:37, Dimitris Chloupis
> wrote:
>
>> there will be no remap of variable names, this is a strict compiler if
>> you
ow: classname ; show:'.' ; show:sel;show:'()';cr.
Damn that was too easy :D
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 2:06 PM Thierry Goubier
wrote:
> Le mer. 17 oct. 2018 à 12:39, Dimitris Chloupis
> a écrit :
> >
> > About your last part on platforms, I will be providi
tion again, reworded here:
>
> What is the strategy that UFFI internally uses in its own implementation
> to search for a library? What if that library depends on other libraries
> in turn? Where would these ones be searched for?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2018-10-
obviously, I will be
relying on C code inling at first for special corner cases and then I will
implement them as annotations the more the project moves forward.
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 1:30 PM Dimitris Chloupis
wrote:
> Hello Allistair
>
> I have used Slang only once and it was gener
gt; On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:06, Dimitris Chloupis
> wrote:
> >
> > Thierry you have done it !!! you just gave a very easy solution to my
> problems.
> >
> > Yeap Slang is quite close to what I am thinking, unfortunately Clement
> told me to stay away from it because
t variables if they
> are set.
>
> In other words, Where does it search for libraries?
>
>
>
> Anyway, I'll try your script on cmake.
>
>
> Regards
> MO
>
>
>
>
> for use with dlopen()
>
> On 2018-10-17 11:32, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
> >
I advice first of all the use of CMake , you can thank me later.
CMake if you are not aware is the standard build system for C/C++ , it
makes it super easy to build and compile projects so you dont have to do
what you are doing, call the compiler and pass the inifite amount of
compiler flags that
Le mer. 17 oct. 2018 à 08:44, Dimitris Chloupis
> a écrit :
> >
> > Those are interesting languages and probably better ideas than what I am
> thinking. However they are not what I am talking about.
> >
> > The language I am making is called "Magnatar"
>
a relatively
> novel take on OO."
>
> --Hannes
>
> On 10/17/18, Ben Coman wrote:
> > Have you looked at Ni? (I only read about it)
> > http://goran.krampe.se/2015/09/16/ni-a-strange-little-language/
> >
> > cheers -ben
> >
> > On Wed, 17 O
most popular languages. Which
makes my life a lot easier.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:45 PM Thierry Goubier
wrote:
> Hi Dimitris,
>
> Le 16/10/2018 à 19:39, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit :
> > yes i already said that i followed the instructions in the github repo
>
> Yes, by default
> What about trying
> >
> >
> > Metacello new
> > baseline: 'SmaCC';
> > repository: 'github://ThierryGoubier/SmaCC';
> > load
> >
> > This worked in Pharo 6.1 in November 2017
> >
> > On 10/16/18, Dimitris C
he Windows
> version is 32-bit only, for reasons explained elsewhere in this thread.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
>
>
> Peter Kenny
>
>
>
> *From:* Pharo-users *On Behalf Of
> *Dimitris
> Chloupis
> *Sent:* 16 October 2018 15:40
> *To:* Any question about pharo i
ah ok thats not a problem for me, thanks
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 6:21 PM Esteban Lorenzano
wrote:
> It just misses ONE module: Athens :)
>
> Esteban
>
>
> On 16 Oct 2018, at 17:11, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>
> oh , thats confusing because Pharolauncher has a 64bit o
oh , thats confusing because Pharolauncher has a 64bit option
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 6:09 PM Cyril Ferlicot
wrote:
>
>
> On mar. 16 oct. 2018 at 16:59, Dimitris Chloupis
> wrote:
>
>> I would love also to see a 6.1 standalone download for windows 64 bit,
>> apparent
I would love also to see a 6.1 standalone download for windows 64 bit,
apparently the other platforms have 64 bit downloads. Is there a reason why
its not available for Windows ?
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 12:50 PM Cyril Ferlicot
wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 11:47 AM H. Hirzel wrote:
> >
> > Hi
Hey guys
I downloaded the latest Pharo 6.1 64bit for Windows and tried to install
SmaCC through the catalog browser but it failed
I did manage to install it following the instruction in the github repo but
I see that I am missing most parser packages.
The languages I am interested are Smalltalk
There is PharoSound package from the catalog browser that I see it has some
MIDI capabilities but I do not know if it will work for you. I have used
Pharo Sound to playback audio files but never for MIDI.
As Guillermo said, UFFI is your best bet. Of course first you need to find
out how its done i
I may be wrong but last time I checked access to the OS Graphics API was
handled by the VM itself. There was a talk about decoupling that from the
VM and porting it to the image but no idea if it happened.
if it was the pragma primitive inside the method that means it calls native
code , the secon
Shortcuts have long been a thorn for Pharo, the lack of global state and
the fact that are hard coded. Colors and Themes had the same issue and it
was the effort Esteban who wanted to bring the dark theme that really
changed this. I suspect like Theme these are legacy Squeak stuff that are
not easy
I have used Pharo with Git, for versioning source code and variable assets
, images and audio files using filetree and the git client of my choosing.
Git is super flexible , especially if you combine it with make files that I
also use to build my own custom pharo images together with pharo startup
Pharo success in in the website, twitter and youtube channel.
Popularity wise the clear indication is community, I joined Pharo back in
2011 when it was already 3 years old and we had only one active mailing
list , pharo-dev, pharo-users were practically unused. Then we got so many
new people we
On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 1:48 PM Hilaire wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for advices on a feature I want to develop for Dr. Geo.
>
> The need takes place in a LAN, for example in a School computer lab.
>
I think that even in the case of a LAN you can still do it via internet
using something like git
Cross platform support has always been a can of worms in any language. As
soon as one tries to do something that is not so popular it usually results
into several issues that may be there for years if not decades. Especially
in the case of third party libraries.
This is also one of the big reasons
correction I mean to say
"Pharo is far from perfect, if it was I would still be coding in it but
none the less, stability is definetly NOT one of its main problems."
On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 2:37 PM Dimitris Chloupis
wrote:
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:43 PM Trygve Reenskaug
> wr
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:43 PM Trygve Reenskaug wrote:
> Please tell me when Java, C, C++, etc programs stopped working because
> their runtime systems had changed.
> Please tell me when Java, C, C++, etc compilers stopped compiling old code
> because the languages had changed.
>
1) C and C++ do
Ok now I do not understand why the invite changed on the pharo web
> site (and I do not like the here instead of the full name) because we
> have to hover to get the information.
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Dimitris Chloupis
> wrote:
> > if you provide me the specifi
y other of
the 26 invites.
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 8:07 PM Stephane Ducasse
wrote:
> did the invitation changed?
> Because we will have to update books flyers and others.
> So is there a way to keep the invitation link stable?
>
> Stef
>
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 11:48 AM,
the roles got changed I am no longer admin (Note that it does not
>> really matter since I did not do much admin work but still)
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <
>> kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys after my mistake
Hey guys after my mistake we got "hacked" and someone banned all our
members in Discord
I have revoked all the bans but you will have to rejoin . Existing join
links are still valid , if you dont have one here is one
https://discord.gg/gtKeHne
My apologies for this inconvenience, I am still expl
lleneuve%C2%A0d'Ascq&entry=gmail&source=g>
> d'Ascq
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=40,+avenue+Halley+59650%C2%A0Villeneuve%C2%A0d'Ascq&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Numéro de téléphone: +333 59 35 86 40 <+33%203%2059%2035%2086%2040>
>
> Le 10 janv
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 5:50 PM Julien wrote:
> Beware that no mechanism to get back values from Python is defined for now
> (except if you just want the String
> representation of those objects, then you can get that if you use atlas).
>
> I’d like to have that but it is not easy. I would like a
are happy with your current solution, there is no need to modify
your code.
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 9:09 PM Julien wrote:
>
> Le 5 janv. 2018 à 17:15, Dimitris Chloupis a
> écrit :
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Python3Generator allows to generate a Python 3 AST programatically.
>
> Python3Generator allows to generate a Python 3 AST programatically. So
> basically you have objects that represent Python 3 AST nodes and some
> messages in top of that to make the generation of the AST easier from Pharo.
>
> E.g.
>
> ast := 'print' asP3GIdentifier callWith: #('Hello world').
>
Well done, great to see my code be reused for new project. I am happy to
see people take it one step further.
What exactly your code offers additional to my code ? Is there is something
special you do with it?
> There is a concept of « Interpreter » in this framework. Basically, an
> interpreter
> I have argued time and again and in length about Markdown support in
> Pharo, so I will not do it again. I'll just repeat that, in order to make
> Pharo less isolated, Git support for managing software source code has the
> strategic importance, in the same way that Markdown support for managing
For me Pillar has been the most underused feature of Pharo by far and it
makes me sad how little we take advantage of this great technology.
Pillar provides a feature set far longer and more important than markdown
but I think as a community we need to not only include Pillar inside our
standard d
You could look at my project ChronosManager, you can download from inside
Pharo and it’s main repo is here with a screenshot that demonstrates what
it is
https://github.com/kilon/ChronosManager
Reading it’s code should give the info you seek , there are comments as
well to help you
On Fri, 22 De
>> buildShortcutsOn:
or got to NautilusWindow class >> buildShortcutsOn: (any method will do)
or search for any method using the pragma
On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 12:06 PM Prof. Andrew P. Black
wrote:
>
> On 9 Dec 2017, at 07:44 , Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>
> Making shortcuts in
Nope , nothing to do with Emacs
GNU Smalltalk is Smalltalk without welll... Smalltalk
Which is why almost none is using it.
There is a project to use Pharo from inside Emacs called Shamoo. Frankly
you will be sacrificing a lot of IDE goodies leaving Pharo.
Neither Emacs or vim are proper IDE
Now that’s what I call a great way to promote something. Excellent work,
short to the point.
In the future you could combine small code snippets together with the rest
of your arguments for explaining the awesomeness of Pharo. Apple does this
very well and in similar style to what you have done he
Unless we talk about a diffident launcher I am not aware of. Pharo launcher
is both a GUI last time I checked and loadable inside any image. So
technically speaking you don’t need neither the GUI nor the command line.
You can fully integrate it and automate it with your own project and then
publish
I use github and Package Browser, Package Browser is for intalling packages
from inside image. For small code snippets I use Gist which supports
Smalltalk syntax.
For example
https://gist.github.com/kilon/ef8a99d94637eadfac339107e1ace233
On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM Andy Burnett <
andy.burn...@
Hans, feedback is probably one of the most crucial elements in improving
software. So not only classifies as help in my book its up there on top.
Improvement for the shake of improvement is just pointless. Feedback helps
show a common path that can keep users as happy as possible.
Also note that
>
> Stef
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Dimitris Chloupis
> wrote:
> > Just to clarify, you will never read from me that Python or Pharo is
> > superior or what else.
> >
> > Superior and better is highly subjective and depends obviously on y
Just to clarify, you will never read from me that Python or Pharo is
superior or what else.
Superior and better is highly subjective and depends obviously on your
needs and specific problem you want to solve.
What I am saying , is yes I am perfectly ok and even encourage Pharo
offering similar fu
>
> - Deployment: it should be possible to deploy a „single click“
> application, independet if native GUI or Web App or Shiny like
> - More standard solutions: many libraries have examples, but they are
> sometimes to trivial or just irrelevant for daily practice
> - More product oriented: librari
Well done :)
Now you can make a discord client inside the Pharo image if you want.
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 at 21:03, Juraj Kubelka
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the TechTalk record is available at the same link:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kXsOiP6wA
> and includes outline to simplify navigation.
>
> Chee
>
>
> First of all, you need to understand that this article, like nearly all of
> my other articles, is about /marketing/. I've never made any bones about
> this.
>
> If you know anything about marketing, you know that it involves
> exaggeration
> and hyperbole. It sometimes involves bending the t
generally based on who they have lunch with more than
> anything else.
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Dimitris Chloupis
> *Sent: *Monday, November 6,
Another way of promoting Pharo is copying its advantages to other
languages. The ideal way is for people to get straight to Pharo and fall in
love with it. But sometimes this may be possible for several reasons. The
most usual being that people simple are not in the mood of learning a new
language
Yes Atlas , a library I made that is available via Package Browser from
inside the Pharo image, makes Pharo capable of using any cpython library
from inside Pharo, with Pharo syntax, live coding and debugging again
inside Pharo. The Pharo syntax is limited to just calling methods and
variable assig
e a longer term project unless someone has already done it.
>
> Tim
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 1 Nov 2017, at 20:57, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>
> Well technically this is easy to do with Morphic. Probably Spec 2. Doing
> it from inside the Pharo window will give yo
gt; In comparison, what is lacking in the land of Java, which is so powerful in
> Pharo/Squeak/Smalltalk is the ability to inspect the object resulting from
> some highlighted code. As a developer, Smalltalk wins on inspectability.
>
> - HH
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 17:47,
Well I rather not reply because I am a huge hater of multi window GUIs .
Thank god Pharo is not.
Seriously how on earth someone can find convenient multiple windows is
beyond my understanding . It was a terrible idea in 90s , it’s still a
terrible idea.
On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 at 23:05, horrido wrote:
Super cool more detailed recommendations when I try it on practice
A cheap pdf viewer in Pharo would be to turn pdf pages to JPG images which
you can load via image morph so you won’t have to have two separate
windows. There are ton of converters out there that can do this.
On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 at 2
Pillar supports embedding LaTex and HTML inside your pillar files so
whatever works for those should work for Pillar. Pillar also has templates
you can modify via moustache. Pillar is actually so flexible I used as a
static website generator utilizing moustache and bootstrap and worked like
a charm
Oh there is also the possibility this is already available via GTInspector,
last time I checked I remember it having a slideshow preview of images
collection and it embeds a workspace as well. So maybe you already have
what you need.
On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 at 22:57, Dimitris Chloupis
wrote:
> W
Well technically this is easy to do with Morphic. Probably Spec 2. Doing it
from inside the Pharo window will give you the ability to demonstrate live
code and Morphic is live code.
If you don’t want to do everything with Morphic you can create this in any
app of your choosing , export to images a
t; which happens
> to be the 2's complement representation of -1. At least the old code for
> libZMQ
> was not expecting that.
>
> Cheers, Paulo
>
> (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two's_complement
> (2) http://api.zeromq.org/4-2:zmq-msg-recv
>
>
> On
I have no idea what you mean by "2's complement"
In any case bare in mind that UFFI has a limited range of C types that does
support. Here you use 2 custom types , ZmqApiMessage and ZmqApiSocket ,
both are pointers because of * . Now these types are definetly not included
with UFFI so if you have
On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 6:10 AM Andrew Glynn wrote:
> Web dev is a messy field. Not because it has grown too fast, but because
> it was designed by amateurs, developed by amateurs, and continues to be so,
> while depending on an underlying expertly designed system, the internet.
>
Non sense. C
Maybe you talk about TalkFFI which aumatically wrapped C libraries for
Pharo and i think Squeak as well but used Nativeboos, i think
http://forum.world.st/TalkFFI-automatic-FFI-generation-for-Pharo-td4662239.html
On the subject of Fortran yes you can use UFFI if Fortran code is compiled
as a DLL
indeed excellent idea
Having a polished website like they did, is the way to go.
+1
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 11:54 AM Tudor Girba wrote:
> Nice idea, indeed.
>
> Doru
>
>
> > On Oct 26, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Marcus Denker
> wrote:
> >
> > That’s a nice idea!
> >
> > I will check how they did it a
Well all languages have well designed and badly designed libraries , in
Pharo you dont even have to look hard just take a look at Morph and Object
class and awe at all those irrelevant methods trying to cram in features
you will probably never use. Especially my experience with Morphic has been
as
Nothing complex about two images exchanging messages, its not even complex
to transmit objects via fuel, you even transmit a debugger or any part of
the live environment or even make an "internet" of images that join objects
together. Sky is the limit. Pharo already provides you will all the
tools/
It all comes down to what you mean by "efficient". Obviously if you want
top performance on multiple cores you dont use any of those languages
including Pharo. Thats prettty much the sole reason why C++ is still a
relevant language.
Now if you want ok performance you could use those languages.
Ho
Actually you need to read the small letters bellow the graph
"% of developers who are developing with the language or technology and
have expressed interest in continuing to develop with it"
which means basically "Smalltalkers love Smalltalk !!!|" . Actually I am
surpised its only 67% of Smalltal
I would have followed the Python approach.
When Guido created Python , it did not try to convince his co-workers about
how superior it was compared to other languages. At the time he did not
intend to use it even as programming language. That worked to his
advantage. Instead it used it for small t
Well the method of the receiver can check for the type of the object from
which you receive a message, technically you can restrict the access even
to a particular instance object. You can enforce a ton of restrictions as
the entire system is modifiable and live.
On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 8:37 AM Pr
ow , debug, correct,
continue. No issues so far.
On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 4:37 AM Dimitris Chloupis
wrote:
> I don’t care about Python vs Pharo debate. I love both I use both.
>
> My ultimate goal is to unite the two under a single Uber powerful live
> coding environment part of my proj
I stand corrected
On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 at 08:11, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de <
jtuc...@objektfabrik.de> wrote:
>
>
> Am 12.10.17 um 20:04 schrieb Dimitris Chloupis:
> >
> > Eclispe , which I will disagree with your that is not the worst IDE,
> > started as a smalltal
t at least I can take advantage of it
> existence now.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> *Date*: Fri, 06 Oct 2017 21:18:28 +
> *Subject*: Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk
> *To*: Any question abou
I have to confess I am a fan of the french accent english too , it has a
nice musicality in it
+1 for subtitles. I love accents, the more the better :D
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 9:28 PM Stephane Ducasse
wrote:
> In fact the files have two tracks.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Andrew Glynn
If you make a morph maximise and pin it down, it will cover the entire
pharo windows and wont be movable and will make it impossible for the user
to interact with the IDE even via shorcuts. If I am wrong on shortcuts I
hope someone correct me but last time I checked that was the case.
Command line
Well oh Well, Python is stupid Very, very stupid
To my suprise live coding in Python its actually easier to what I expected
and almost the same, from user perspective to that of pharo.Minus the IDE
conveiniece of course. But a pain in the hat to find the proper way to do
it.
I was reloading
Modularisation is coming whether you like it or not
its called
Bootstrap
And the more modular the image will get the more will get closer to
namespaces anyway. So frankly all I have to do is wait and if I can of
course contribute ;)
You can call it Bootstrap or the Pink Elephant for all I care,
tUnderstand: that
> handles those) for all the classes in the module, removing from the class
> name the prefix? It would allow an experiment, to see how the code looks
> like and if it is understandable, or if a special syntax is necessary.
>
> Thierry
>
>
> 2017-10-13
Why exporting to latex, html and markdown is not enough for you ?
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:05 PM Gour wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 17:18:54 +
> Dimitris Chloupis
> wrote:
>
> > Well there is a move towards Pillar for class and method commands so
> > who knows mayb
general idea at least.
Please enlighten me :)
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 12:30 PM Dimitris Chloupis
wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:31 AM Thierry Goubier <
> thierry.goub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2017-10-13 10:12 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis :
>>
>>> fair enoug
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:31 AM Thierry Goubier
wrote:
> 2017-10-13 10:12 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis :
>
>> fair enough you think namespaces are not the right solution, what you
>> think is the right solution then ?
>>
>
> I told you. Namespaces are a solut
"Let's start with the misconception that namespaces are about modularisation
Stephan "
Well I can only for speak for Python because is where I used namespaces
the most and the language I am most experienced with. Namespaces in python
are merely objects that come with a collection of method spe
10:55 AM Thierry Goubier
wrote:
> Hi Kilon,
>
> disclaimer: I've used Parcplace Smalltlk without namespaces, then
> VisualWorks with namespaces.
>
> 2017-10-13 9:08 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis :
>
>> Personally I dont get it, we find the path to bootstrap the phar
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