Re: [Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

2018-04-12 Thread p...@highoctane.be
It is true that there are many things in there. New tools have to be finished before the old ones can be removed (there was a time where refactorings were not in Calypso). But for a real project, one is settling for a version and a toolset. I am not really keen to migrate Pharo projects from one

[Pharo-users] Where do we go now ?

2018-04-12 Thread Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users
--- Begin Message --- Hello guys, Just a quick word to get some things straight because, quite frankly, I really don't know where we're heading. When Pharo started, the goal was to depart from Squeak and do a *major clean up* of all the code, especially Morphic.  The promise of a new, clean & l

Re: [Pharo-users] Progress bar for ZnClient>>#downloadTo:

2018-04-12 Thread Ben Coman
You may have guessed I hadn't used Jobs much before. Then I was surprised that I couldn't find much about Jobs in either Pharo By Example, Deep Into Pharo or Enterprise Pharo. >From digging around I made a minimal example I report to help others' searches, and open it for improvement. x := 1. [ [

Re: [Pharo-users] SmalltalkCI now supports loading tonel-based projects

2018-04-12 Thread Gabriel Cotelli
Framework for testing Smalltalk projects on Linux, macOS, and Windows and on Travis CI and AppVeyor. https://github.com/hpi-swa/smalltalkCI On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Hilaire wrote: > What is SmalltalkCI? > > Tonel is a very cool feature as it makes commiting source in file based > repo v

Re: [Pharo-users] SmalltalkCI now supports loading tonel-based projects

2018-04-12 Thread Hilaire
What is SmalltalkCI? Tonel is a very cool feature as it makes commiting source in file based repo very friendly, and browsing from from web based UI tools nice too. Le 07/04/2018 à 11:28, Peter Uhnák a écrit : SmalltalkCI now supports loading tonel-based projects, so feel free to start using

Re: [Pharo-users] SmalltalkCI now supports loading tonel-based projects

2018-04-12 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote > Thanks this is good to know because I want to migrate all my projects > and future project to use tonel. +1! - Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] In P7 scrpt variable to tmp when in debugger

2018-04-12 Thread Hilaire
Thanks. Le 12/04/2018 à 17:18, Marcus Denker a écrit : I should have a fix ready tomorrow. -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-users] In P7 scrpt variable to tmp when in debugger

2018-04-12 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 12 Apr 2018, at 17:06, Hilaire wrote: > > Hi Marcus, Benoit, > > Nice to know. I was testing in a set up with both .changes and source files. > So I was suspecting something like what your described. I can imagine in > production code your feature to speed up compilation will be appreci

Re: [Pharo-users] In P7 scrpt variable to tmp when in debugger

2018-04-12 Thread Hilaire
Hi Marcus, Benoit, Nice to know. I was testing in a set up with both .changes and source files. So I was suspecting something like what your described. I can imagine in production code your feature to speed up compilation will be appreciated. For Dr. Geo and Smalltalk sketch, it is better to h

Re: [Pharo-users] Progress bar for ZnClient>>#downloadTo:

2018-04-12 Thread Ben Coman
On 12 April 2018 at 18:15, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Ben, > > You disappoint me, as I would expect you to trace senders/users of > #signalProgress: ;-) > :P Yeah I knew I was being slack. I couldn't really follow its operation and was a bit tired. Actually maybe part of my confusion is tha

Re: [Pharo-users] In P7 scrpt variable to tmp when in debugger

2018-04-12 Thread Benoit St-Jean via Pharo-users
--- Begin Message --- What happens if you debug the script starting with a "self halt" ?  Are the variables there with their original name?  looks like decompiled code.  A problem with your .sources file? - Benoît St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Twitter: @BenLeChialeux Pin

Re: [Pharo-users] In P7 scrpt variable to tmp when in debugger

2018-04-12 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 12 Apr 2018, at 16:10, Hilaire wrote: > > Hi, > > When an executed script throws an error, in the debugger the script lost its > variable names and the code is not exactly the same. > > Any idea why? > Hello, I changed the way code is compiled for #evaluate: to speed it up, but it tu

Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up

2018-04-12 Thread Hilaire
It looks like deferring to the UIManager is ok for the start up. No need to fork at background user level or something like that. Le 12/04/2018 à 12:42, Hilaire a écrit :      to use the deferred action in the startup you can add it to the SessionManager >> addDeferredStartupAction:, this will

Re: [Pharo-users] To be there or not to be there

2018-04-12 Thread Hilaire
Glad to read that. Note: it is unlikely I could met again such situation as I already re-organized the code. But good to know there is this update menu item if such case arise again. Thanks Hilaire Le 12/04/2018 à 15:17, Denis Kudriashov a écrit : Stef found and I fixed one case which cou

Re: [Pharo-users] To be there or not to be there

2018-04-12 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Stef found and I fixed one case which could be related to your problem. So next release it will be integrated. Also I added to #extra menu group the item "Update" which will help in such buggy cases. 2018-04-03 23:06 GMT+02:00 Hilaire : > Hello, > > I have re-organized the packages and classes i

Re: [Pharo-users] [SmalltalkCI] loading tonel dependencies?

2018-04-12 Thread Gabriel Cotelli
I've created a new issue in smalltalkCI issue tracker: https://github.com/hpi-swa/smalltalkCI/issues/365 . On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 6:12 AM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > peter, >> are you sure that dependencies of a project in tonel format can be >> l

Re: [Pharo-users] installation of packages on 6.1

2018-04-12 Thread Baveco, Hans
Thanks for this explanation Stef, Now looking forward to Guilles work - sounds like it will be a very helpful resource when starting to use Git! Hans -Original Message- From: Stephane Ducasse Sent: woensdag 11 april 2018 22:01 To: Any question about pharo is welcome Subject: Re: [Pha

Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up

2018-04-12 Thread Hilaire
Le 12/04/2018 à 12:06, teso...@gmail.com a écrit :      to use the deferred action in the startup you can add it to the SessionManager >> addDeferredStartupAction:, this will execute after all the startup actions. However, I was wrong it will not solve the problem of the splash, as the deferred

Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up

2018-04-12 Thread Hilaire
Hi Pablo, I will one or the other for the Splash screen, The most annoying is the warning message at start up. Can your take a look at this app in your system if it  shows up? (the splash is off in this version, so it should not cause trouble) https://www.dropbox.com/s/te2gel05u1y1sp9/DrGeo.

Re: [Pharo-users] Progress bar for ZnClient>>#downloadTo:

2018-04-12 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Ben, You disappoint me, as I would expect you to trace senders/users of #signalProgress: ;-) ZnClient only signals certain Notifications which a UI around it should deal with. For example, [ :bar | bar title: 'Downloading Sources...'. [ ZnClient new url: 'http://files.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up

2018-04-12 Thread teso...@gmail.com
Hi Hilaire, to use the deferred action in the startup you can add it to the SessionManager >> addDeferredStartupAction:, this will execute after all the startup actions. However, I was wrong it will not solve the problem of the splash, as the deferred action is still running in maximum priorit

Re: [Pharo-users] Quick website fix

2018-04-12 Thread Marcus Denker
Fixed! > On 12 Apr 2018, at 11:38, Markus Fritsche wrote: > > Hi, > > it says on "https://pharo.org/contribute-propose-fix"; that Manuscript > used to be called "Fugbugz" - although an understandable mistake, I > believe it was called "Fogbugz" :-) > > > Kind regards > > Markus > >

[Pharo-users] Quick website fix

2018-04-12 Thread Markus Fritsche
Hi, it says on "https://pharo.org/contribute-propose-fix"; that Manuscript used to be called "Fugbugz" - although an understandable mistake, I believe it was called "Fogbugz" :-) Kind regards   Markus

Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up

2018-04-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Not like that. Pablo proposed to help you and he is much better than me :) I'm busy with administria. On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Hilaire wrote: > Hi Stef, > > No clue why I have this warning message at start up? > > Hilaire > > Le 11/04/2018 à 21:48, Stephane Ducasse a écrit : >> >> Hi hil

Re: [Pharo-users] migration to 6.1 was super easy.

2018-04-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks this is a great testimony. BTW I would love to have a success story around your project. Can we take it off line? On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 2:00 AM, PAUL DEBRUICKER wrote: > Thanks for all the hard work. > > > It took me about 30 minutes to migrate one of my projects from 32bit Pharo 5 > to

[Pharo-users] Progress bar for ZnClient>>#downloadTo:

2018-04-12 Thread Ben Coman
I see ZnClient >> downloadTo: calls ZnClient >> downloadEntityTo: which uses #withProgressDo: which indicates a progress bar might appear. But... ZnClient new url: ' https://download.libsodium.org/libsodium/releases/ libsodium-1.0.16-msvc.zip' ; downloadTo: FileLocator imageDi

Re: [Pharo-users] [SmalltalkCI] loading tonel dependencies?

2018-04-12 Thread Peter Uhnák
> > peter, > are you sure that dependencies of a project in tonel format can be loaded? I agree with Gabriel, this has to be a Metacello issue. The support that was added was having your repo in tonel. If tonel dependencies are problem, that's a different issue. I think this is best to report d

Re: [Pharo-users] Frozen at start up

2018-04-12 Thread Hilaire
Hi Stef, No clue why I have this warning message at start up? Hilaire Le 11/04/2018 à 21:48, Stephane Ducasse a écrit : Hi hilaire Favor Smalltalk globals at: #... over Smalltalk at: # Stef -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

[Pharo-users] [Newsletter] Content Needed

2018-04-12 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, The Pharo Monthly Newsletter is working quite well. https://newsletter.pharo.org We now reached a level where it is not just 3 things, but much much more.. of course this comes with a downside: - Sometimes topics that would be worth a small article a

Re: [Pharo-users] [TechTalk] April 12: GIT with Iceberg

2018-04-12 Thread Marcus Denker
This is today 5:00 PM - 7:00 PM (UTC+02:00) There is a calendar entry to download at: https://association.pharo.org/event-2797068 > On 10 Apr 2018, at 16:34, Marcus Denker wrote: > > Hi, > > There next TechTalk will be April 12: GIT with Iceberg > > https://association.pharo.org/even