Re: [Pharo-users] super super

2017-01-15 Thread Henrik Nergaard
#perform:withArugments:inSuperclass: | menu | menu := MenuMorph new. menu isMorph. "true" menu perform: #isMorph withArguments: #() inSuperclass: Morph. "true" menu perform: #isMorph withArguments: #() inSuperclass: Object."false" menu perform: #isMorph withArguments: #() inSuperclass: ProtoObjec

Re: [Pharo-users] super super

2017-01-15 Thread Brad
You should be able to call super super, as high up as you need to go. At least you can in VA Smalltalk. Brad Selfridge 913-269-2385 > On Jan 15, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Hilaire wrote: > > Hi, > > Is there a way from an instance to access a method situated 2 layers up > in the class hierarchy? > >

Re: [Pharo-users] About Git

2017-01-15 Thread Dale Henrichs
I gave a talk at Smalltalks 2016 entitled: "Dangerous Liaisons: Smalltalk, files, and git"[1] and this thread is a perfect example the dangers I was thinking about:). For "history buffs", here's a link for my talk at STIC 2012 entitled "Practical Git for Smalltalk"[2]. Dale [1] http://fast.

[Pharo-users] super super

2017-01-15 Thread Hilaire
Hi, Is there a way from an instance to access a method situated 2 layers up in the class hierarchy? A kind of super super. Thanks Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-users] About Git

2017-01-15 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
For those that lost track of the purpose of this thread let me provide a summary The discussion started from the Google Visibility where Sven asked me why I find the Pharo VCS and Monticello a very problematic implementation I decided to reply creating a separate thread in order to not hijack the

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

2017-01-15 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I created Discord chat channel for this precise reason but it has its own disadvantages like lack of search facility I have to agree with Hillary , mailing lists is by far the most efficient way of solving problems and is not even any slower than the online chat and far easier for someone to spot

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

2017-01-15 Thread Hilaire
I like interacting with the news group too, including with this mailing list. I found it very efficient. Hilaire Le 15/01/2017 à 09:46, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de a écrit : > And that's exactly why I still like the usenet: I can read/answer > whenever I want, using my mail client (opera, thunderbird

Re: [Pharo-users] About Git

2017-01-15 Thread Peter Uhnak
I find these endless git vs monticello discussions confusing and pointless. Maybe we can hang Q&A list somewhere on pharo website to point to? Because git is getting increased traction in Pharo, so the same questions and endless discussions will popup over and over again. 1. Some people here ar

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

2017-01-15 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 6:22 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote > > so it is not a good idea for an open source project, as I feared. > > +1. I was concerned from the beginning that our conversations would get > more > fragmented. I rarely have time to check slack and the

Re: [Pharo-users] About Git

2017-01-15 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
On 15/01/17 04:29, itli...@schrievkrom.de wrote: I also have thought several times that it would be nice to have a SQLite database holding all sources/packages. How much easier life would be with that. That's the core idea of fossil. "GitHub alike in a box" DVCS with tickets, wiki, web ser

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

2017-01-15 Thread p...@highoctane.be
My point exactly. Currently working with a team of testers, they are very happy with mcz indeed. And have no clue of git. Phil On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > On 14/01/17 06:58, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > [...] > >>

Re: [Pharo-users] About Git

2017-01-15 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I am also amazed at the number of people not using basic git UI tools, like "git gui" and "gitk" + mergetool/difftool settings in the git config (kdiff3, meld, WinMerge, difuse) which make the work of merging so much easier (e.g. "git difftool" or "git mergetool" on the CLI when one encounters issu

Re: [Pharo-users] About Git

2017-01-15 Thread p...@highoctane.be
My reasons to like the legacy/mcz style [D]VCS in Pharo: 1) No fuss in saving things when I am starting something 2) Easy to explain to someone new to Pharo 3) Can use any FTP server as a repo (Useful when in a walled garden) 4) Compatible with the package cache, so I can collect mcz's from variou

Re: [Pharo-users] About Git

2017-01-15 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 15.01.2017 um 10:29 schrieb "itli...@schrievkrom.de" > : > > I would give you many more "+" - if you wish - for your opinion: > > > > > Another point I would like to mention: keep the source code locally or > at least have an easy

Re: [Pharo-users] About Git

2017-01-15 Thread itli...@schrievkrom.de
I would give you many more "+" - if you wish - for your opinion: Another point I would like to mention: keep the source code locally or at least have an easy option to hold all source code locally. I've seen so many times, that git or one

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

2017-01-15 Thread stepharong
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:09:02 +0100, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 14 Jan 2017, at 00:48, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: On STHub, fortunately is live enough to let some of us being productive without the noise of git in front. So true. Let's stop bashing StHub: it works fin

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

2017-01-15 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Steph, Sven, Sean and everybody else, Am 15.01.17 um 09:41 schrieb stepharong: On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 06:22:59 +0100, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote so it is not a good idea for an open source project, as I feared. +1. I was concerned from the beginning that our conver

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

2017-01-15 Thread stepharong
On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 06:22:59 +0100, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote so it is not a good idea for an open source project, as I feared. +1. I was concerned from the beginning that our conversations would get more fragmented. I rarely have time to check slack and the m