Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-10 Thread Jeff Davis
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 09:46 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Jeff Davis wrote: > > On the flip side, if we don't provide review to WIP patches during the > > 3rd commitfest, how do we expect to get anything close to committable on > > the 1st commitfest of the next cycle

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-10 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Jeff Davis wrote: > On the flip side, if we don't provide review to WIP patches during the > 3rd commitfest, how do we expect to get anything close to committable on > the 1st commitfest of the next cycle? I'm not sure exactly what you're going for here, because I

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-09 Thread Chris Browne
pg...@j-davis.com (Jeff Davis) writes: > On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 15:10 -0500, Chris Browne wrote: >> It's more than a bit sad... The RangeType change has the massive merit >> of enabling some substantial development changes, where we can get rid >> of whole classes of comparison clauses, and hopeful

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-09 Thread Jeff Davis
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 15:10 -0500, Chris Browne wrote: > It's more than a bit sad... The RangeType change has the massive merit > of enabling some substantial development changes, where we can get rid > of whole classes of comparison clauses, and hopefully whole classes of > range errors. That wa

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Jeff Davis
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 14:25 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: > > The patch is a million little decisions: names, catalog structure, > > interface, representation, general usability, grammar, functionality, > > etc. Without some checkpoint, the chances that everyone agrees with all > > of these decisions a

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Josh Berkus
> This discussion reveals that it's time to start making some > discussions about what can be accomplished for 9.1 and what must be > postponed to 9.2. The big ones I think we should postpone are: First off, I think that this is a little premature. As others have pointed out, the unusual schedu

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Chris Browne
pg...@j-davis.com (Jeff Davis) writes: > On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 06:57 -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: >> * Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote: >> > - Range Types. This is a large patch which was submitted for the >> > first time to the last CommitFest of the cycle, and the first version >> > tha

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:13 PM, David Fetter wrote: >> I agree that we have some problems in that area - particularly with >> writeable CTEs - but prolonging the schedule isn't going to fix that >> problem. > > What is? I think the best solution would probably be to find corporate sponsors for mo

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Jeff Davis wrote: > On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 22:37 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: >> - Range Types.  This is a large patch which was submitted for the >> first time to the last CommitFest of the cycle, and the first version >> that had no open TODO items was posted yesterda

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Jeff Davis
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 11:56 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: > It's a 5400 line patch that wasn't completed until the middle of the > current CommitFest. Nobody has ever submitted a major feature patch > of that size that got done in a single CommitFest, to my recollection, > or even half that size. My

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread David Fetter
On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 02:04:04PM -0500, Robert Haas wrote: > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 1:02 PM, David Fetter wrote: > > Given how things worked, i.e. that people were not clear that 9.1 > > development had actually started, etc., I am again proposing that we > > have one more CF starting March 15 t

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Stephen Frost
* Jeff Davis (pg...@j-davis.com) wrote: > I appreciate the sentiment, but in addition to some cleanup, any patch > like this at least requires some discussion. It's a language change > we'll be supporting for a long time. My feeling was that we have had at least some of that discussion this past f

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Jeff Davis
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 06:57 -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote: > > - Range Types. This is a large patch which was submitted for the > > first time to the last CommitFest of the cycle, and the first version > > that had no open TODO items was posted yesterday

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 1:02 PM, David Fetter wrote: > Given how things worked, i.e. that people were not clear that 9.1 > development had actually started, etc., I am again proposing that we > have one more CF starting March 15 to get this all cleaned up.  Yes, I > know that wasn't the plan, but I

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Jeff Davis
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 22:37 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: > - Range Types. This is a large patch which was submitted for the > first time to the last CommitFest of the cycle, and the first version > that had no open TODO items was posted yesterday, three-quarters of > the way through that last CommitF

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On tis, 2011-02-08 at 00:16 -0500, Steve Singer wrote: > On 11-02-07 10:37 PM, Robert Haas wrote: > > > - The PL/python extravaganza. I'm not really clear where we stand > > with this. There are a lot of patches here. > > > > Some of the patches have been committed a few others are ready (or >

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread David Fetter
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 10:37:06PM -0500, Robert Haas wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Chris Browne wrote: > > It sure looks to me like there are going to be a bunch of items that, > > based on the recognized policies, need to get deferred to 9.2, and the > > prospects for Sync Rep getting

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Chris Browne wrote: > sfr...@snowman.net (Stephen Frost) writes: >> * Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote: >>> - Range Types.  This is a large patch which was submitted for the >>> first time to the last CommitFest of the cycle, and the first version >>> that

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Steve Singer
On 11-02-08 10:07 AM, Jan Urbański wrote: * custom SPI exceptions - I'd really like this one to go in, because it allows writing UPSERT-kind functions in PL/Python very easily, and it's just a handful of lines of code I will try to do a review of this one (probably tomorrow night) since I'

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Chris Browne
sfr...@snowman.net (Stephen Frost) writes: > * Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote: >> - Range Types. This is a large patch which was submitted for the >> first time to the last CommitFest of the cycle, and the first version >> that had no open TODO items was posted yesterday, three-quarters

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Jan Urbański
On 08/02/11 15:44, Hitoshi Harada wrote: > 2011/2/8 Steve Singer : >> On 11-02-07 10:37 PM, Robert Haas wrote: >> >>> - The PL/python extravaganza. I'm not really clear where we stand >>> with this. There are a lot of patches here. >>> >> >> Some of the patches have been committed a few others ar

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Hitoshi Harada
2011/2/8 Steve Singer : > On 11-02-07 10:37 PM, Robert Haas wrote: > >> - The PL/python extravaganza.  I'm not really clear where we stand >> with this.  There are a lot of patches here. >> > > Some of the patches have been committed a few others are ready (or almost > ready) for a committer.   The

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-08 Thread Stephen Frost
* Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote: > - Range Types. This is a large patch which was submitted for the > first time to the last CommitFest of the cycle, and the first version > that had no open TODO items was posted yesterday, three-quarters of > the way through that last CommitFest. Som

Re: [HACKERS] postponing some large patches to 9.2

2011-02-07 Thread Steve Singer
On 11-02-07 10:37 PM, Robert Haas wrote: - The PL/python extravaganza. I'm not really clear where we stand with this. There are a lot of patches here. Some of the patches have been committed a few others are ready (or almost ready) for a committer. The table function one is the only one