Re: [HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-28 Thread Josh Berkus
> Shared responsibility is no-one's responsibility. If we are to have > multiple CF managers, I think it would be good to have one who's mainly > responsible, and the second one's job is to nag the first manager if > ernothing happens, and quickly take over if necessary. Ie. a hot standby > arrang

Re: [HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-28 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
On 28.05.2013 01:12, Craig Ringer wrote: On 05/16/2013 01:44 AM, Josh Berkus wrote: I'll also say: * we need to assign CF managers at least 2 weeks in advance of each CF * we need to replace them if they get too busy to follow-through, * and the last CF needs two managers. Strong +1 on both of

Re: [HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-27 Thread Craig Ringer
On 05/16/2013 01:44 AM, Josh Berkus wrote: > I'll also say: > * we need to assign CF managers at least 2 weeks in advance of each CF * > we need to replace them if they get too busy to follow-through, > * and the last CF needs two managers. Strong +1 on both of those. I tried to pick up a CF that

Re: [HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-15 Thread Boszormenyi Zoltan
2013-05-15 20:05 keltezéssel, Andrew Dunstan írta: On 05/15/2013 02:00 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: Obviously we need a meta-manager who makes sure we have managers, and is able to notice that a manager is MIA and needs replaced (or at least backed-up). And then a meta-meta-manager to make sure that

Re: [HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-15 Thread Josh Berkus
On 05/15/2013 11:05 AM, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > > On 05/15/2013 02:00 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: >>> Obviously we need a meta-manager who makes sure we have managers, and is >>> able to notice that a manager is MIA and needs replaced (or at least >>> backed-up). Actuall, on a more serious basis, we c

Re: [HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-15 Thread Andrew Dunstan
On 05/15/2013 02:00 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: Obviously we need a meta-manager who makes sure we have managers, and is able to notice that a manager is MIA and needs replaced (or at least backed-up). And then a meta-meta-manager to make sure that the meta-manager is meta-managing. And an Inspecto

Re: [HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-15 Thread Josh Berkus
> Obviously we need a meta-manager who makes sure we have managers, and is > able to notice that a manager is MIA and needs replaced (or at least > backed-up). And then a meta-meta-manager to make sure that the meta-manager is meta-managing. And an Inspector General. Anyone have Danny Kaye's ph

Re: [HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-15 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Josh Berkus wrote: > On 05/15/2013 10:30 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > Uhm. If I've been anything wrt the 9.3 schedule, happy is not it. We > > completely failed to manage it in any kind of sane way. I vote +1 for > > keeping the same commitfest schedule this year, but please let's do > > everyo

Re: [HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-15 Thread Josh Berkus
On 05/15/2013 10:30 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Uhm. If I've been anything wrt the 9.3 schedule, happy is not it. We > completely failed to manage it in any kind of sane way. I vote +1 for > keeping the same commitfest schedule this year, but please let's do > everyone a favor and make sure we g

Re: [HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-15 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Heikki Linnakangas wrote: > On 14.05.2013 05:34, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > >In the last two years, the first commit fest started in June, which is > >about a month from now. If we are going to do that again, we should > >clarify that as soon as possible. And if we are not, then we should > >also

Re: [HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-14 Thread Robert Haas
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 22:38 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> Peter Eisentraut writes: >> > In the last two years, the first commit fest started in June, which is >> > about a month from now. If we are going to do that again, we should >> > cla

Re: [HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-14 Thread Josh Berkus
On 05/13/2013 08:13 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 22:38 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> Peter Eisentraut writes: >>> In the last two years, the first commit fest started in June, which is >>> about a month from now. If we are going to do that again, we should >>> clarify that as s

Re: [HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-14 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
On 14.05.2013 05:34, Peter Eisentraut wrote: In the last two years, the first commit fest started in June, which is about a month from now. If we are going to do that again, we should clarify that as soon as possible. And if we are not, then we should also clarify that, because some people are

Re: [HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-13 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 22:38 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Peter Eisentraut writes: > > In the last two years, the first commit fest started in June, which is > > about a month from now. If we are going to do that again, we should > > clarify that as soon as possible. And if we are not, then we should

Re: [HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-13 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut writes: > In the last two years, the first commit fest started in June, which is > about a month from now. If we are going to do that again, we should > clarify that as soon as possible. And if we are not, then we should > also clarify that, because some people are probably expe

[HACKERS] commit fest schedule for 9.4

2013-05-13 Thread Peter Eisentraut
In the last two years, the first commit fest started in June, which is about a month from now. If we are going to do that again, we should clarify that as soon as possible. And if we are not, then we should also clarify that, because some people are probably expecting that we are. So, any though