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Neil Conway wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 22:00, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > I think gborg allows us to collect all relivant projects in one place.
>
> Yes, but so would a webpage with a list of URLs, or a
> freshmeat/google/dmoz directory, or an SF foundry, or [ any number of
> other mechanisms for
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 20:55, Neil Conway wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 21:33, Greg Copeland wrote:
> > I do agree, GBorg needs MUCH higher visibility!
>
> I'm just curious: why do we need GBorg at all? Does it offer anything
> that SourceForge, or a similar service does not offer?
>
> Especially
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 22:00, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> I think gborg allows us to collect all relivant projects in one place.
Yes, but so would a webpage with a list of URLs, or a
freshmeat/google/dmoz directory, or an SF foundry, or [ any number of
other mechanisms for collecting groups of related w
Neil Conway wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 21:33, Greg Copeland wrote:
> > I do agree, GBorg needs MUCH higher visibility!
>
> I'm just curious: why do we need GBorg at all? Does it offer anything
> that SourceForge, or a similar service does not offer?
>
> Especially given that (a) most other OS
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 21:33, Greg Copeland wrote:
> I do agree, GBorg needs MUCH higher visibility!
I'm just curious: why do we need GBorg at all? Does it offer anything
that SourceForge, or a similar service does not offer?
Especially given that (a) most other OSS projects don't have a site for
> There are a couple of links to it from PostgreSQL's site, but you sorta
> have to look and hunt around. I've requested higher visibility but for
> whatever reason it seemed to be snubbed rather quickly.
>
> I do agree, GBorg needs MUCH higher visibility!
Yes - I would love to move phpPgAdmin ba
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Greg Copeland wrote:
> There are a couple of links to it from PostgreSQL's site, but you sorta
> have to look and hunt around. I've requested higher visibility but for
> whatever reason it seemed to be snubbed rather quickly.
>
> I do agree, GBorg needs MUCH higher visibility
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 20:07, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 07:43:05PM -0600, Greg Copeland wrote:
> > On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 19:38, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> > > How come these solutions are such well kept secrets? I've heard of
> > > neither in relation to past discussions abo
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
> > > Glad to hear that. Usogres was developed in Japan and pretty popular
> > > ammong Japanese PostgreSQL community.
> > >
> > > BTW, there is a commercial product called QueryMaster, which takes
> > > similar approach to Usogres. It copies the input quer
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 07:43:05PM -0600, Greg Copeland wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 19:38, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > How come these solutions are such well kept secrets? I've heard of
> > neither in relation to past discussions about replication, or have I just
> > missed them? :(
>
> Good
> > Glad to hear that. Usogres was developed in Japan and pretty popular
> > ammong Japanese PostgreSQL community.
> >
> > BTW, there is a commercial product called QueryMaster, which takes
> > similar approach to Usogres. It copies the input query and distribute
> > to multiple PostgreSQL servers.
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> Just checked on Usogres, and it appears to be relatively up to date, in
> that it is known to work up to 7.2.1:
>
> http://usogres.good-day.net/working.php3
>
> Searching Google for QueryMaster finds a few Japanese sites, but I can't
> read Japanese :(
>
>
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Greg Copeland wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 19:38, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
> >
> > > > I just got my copy of SysAdmin Magazine and was surprised to see an
> > > > article about Usogres -- The PostgreSQL Replication Tool.
> > > >
>
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 19:38, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
>
> > > I just got my copy of SysAdmin Magazine and was surprised to see an
> > > article about Usogres -- The PostgreSQL Replication Tool.
> > >
> > > I don't remember seeing it mentioned on this or th
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Tatsuo Ishii wrote:
> > I just got my copy of SysAdmin Magazine and was surprised to see an
> > article about Usogres -- The PostgreSQL Replication Tool.
> >
> > I don't remember seeing it mentioned on this or the General list. Though
> > I just started reading the article an
> I just got my copy of SysAdmin Magazine and was surprised to see an
> article about Usogres -- The PostgreSQL Replication Tool.
>
> I don't remember seeing it mentioned on this or the General list. Though
> I just started reading the article and don't have a firm grasp on it yet,
> I do remem
> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> >
> > > What about asynchronous (triggered?) replication? Is something like
> > > rserv or dbmirror going to be moved to main?
> >
> > From what I've been able to tell *so far*, Postgres-R is going to preclude
> > the abi
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> I meant it would cause other solutions to be less desirable, meaning. as
> you said, "affect the ability to investigate other solutions?" With a
> working solution, others may be less likely to investigate because
> Postgres-R will be our official solut
When I said:
> > > It certainly will cause problems with other replication solutions.
I meant it would cause other solutions to be less desirable, meaning. as
you said, "affect the ability to investigate other solutions?" With a
working solution, others may be less likely to investigate because
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Tom Lane wrote:
> "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> >> What about asynchronous (triggered?) replication? Is something like
> >> rserv or dbmirror going to be moved to main?
>
> >> From what I've been able to tell *
"Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>> What about asynchronous (triggered?) replication? Is something like
>> rserv or dbmirror going to be moved to main?
>> From what I've been able to tell *so far*, Postgres-R is going to preclude
> the ab
> Not the code, just Darren' pdf ("slide show" -:()
> and discussion in hackers' list.
>
You might want to read this paper. Its not very long, and
will give you much more insite on the postgres-r work.
http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~kemme/papers/vldb00.html
Darren
---(en
ooops, sorry, that was what I meant (its been one of those days *grin*)
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Mikheev, Vadim wrote:
> > From what I've been able to tell *so far*, Postgres-R is
> > going to preclude the ability for either to work ...
> > Vadim is currently reviewing the code,
>
> Not the code, j
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> What about asynchronous (triggered?) replication? Is something like
> rserv or dbmirror going to be moved to main?
>From what I've been able to tell *so far*, Postgres-R is going to preclude
the ability for either to work ... Vadim is currently review
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>
> > What about asynchronous (triggered?) replication? Is something like
> > rserv or dbmirror going to be moved to main?
>
> From what I've been able to tell *so far*, Postgres-R is going to preclude
> the ability for either
Roderick A. Anderson wrote:
> I just got my copy of SysAdmin Magazine and was surprised to see an
> article about Usogres -- The PostgreSQL Replication Tool.
>
> I don't remember seeing it mentioned on this or the General list. Though
> I just started reading the article and don't have a firm gr
I just got my copy of SysAdmin Magazine and was surprised to see an
article about Usogres -- The PostgreSQL Replication Tool.
I don't remember seeing it mentioned on this or the General list. Though
I just started reading the article and don't have a firm grasp on it yet,
I do remember a discus
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 12:56:45PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Update on replication:
> >
> > We have several things happening with Postgres-R replication:
> >
> > o Someone is porting the 7.2-based Postgres-R code to 7.3
>
> You mean 7.4devel?
Sorry, right.
>
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 12:56:45PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Update on replication:
>
> We have several things happening with Postgres-R replication:
>
> o Someone is porting the 7.2-based Postgres-R code to 7.3
You mean 7.4devel?
> With these things moving forward, we will be in a m
Rod Taylor wrote:
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> > o People are evaluating the Postgres-R approach and comparing
> >it to more traditional 2-phase commit replication.
>
> Not that the Postgres-R approach can replace 2-phase commit methods.
>
> 2PC is still needed for support with
> o People are evaluating the Postgres-R approach and comparing
> it to more traditional 2-phase commit replication.
Not that the Postgres-R approach can replace 2-phase commit methods.
2PC is still needed for support with external transaction managers (XA
drivers for JDBC).
--
Update on replication:
We have several things happening with Postgres-R replication:
o Someone is porting the 7.2-based Postgres-R code to 7.3
o Darren and I are in discussion with the Spread folks,
attempting to get a more BSD-friendly license from them
o Pe
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